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It IS cra cra Revisionist history is GOOD
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What's CRA CRA is we're told that Nazis and Communists were bro's

Hello:

The ONLY proof I have of that, is that they KILLED millions and millions of each others people..  Then they KILLED a few million more.. 

Doesn't sound like bro's to me.

excon

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Yep, the communists and Nazis hated each other. Hitler saw Marxism as the greatest enemy of Aryan supremacy because it is based in the ideals of egalitarianism and thus fundamentally goes against the Nazis strict hierarchical philosophy.

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Jody(1791) Disputed
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Adolf Hitler

We are socialists. We are enemies of today’s capitalistic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.

Sounds just like Marx buddy , he did say he owed Marxism a huge debt , make you feel proud buddy ?

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Sherlock-(92) Disputed
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Hitler quotes that prove he was right wing and anti-Marxist

"There are no such things as classes: they cannot be. Class means caste and caste means race."

"Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows—at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example—as many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews."

(Note: if Hitler believed that race was the closest thing to class, and Hitler brutally suppressed people on the basis of race, thus creating a caste system based on race while claiming there is no such thing as class, how can he be a Marxist given that Marx wanted a society without class and believed that class struggle was the basis for all new socio-economic systems?)

"Everything I undertake is directed against Russia. If the West is too stupid and blind to grasp this, then I shall be compelled to come to an agreement with Russia, beat the West and then after their defeat turn against the Soviet Union with all my forces."

"I absolutely insist on protecting private property. It is natural and salutary that the individual should be inspired by the wish to devote a part of the income from his work to building up and expanding a family estate. Suppose the estate consists of a factory. I regard it as axiomatic, in the ordinary way, that this factory will be better run by one of the members of the family that it would be by a State functionary—providing, of course, that the family remains healthy. In this sense, we must encourage private initiative."

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"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

This misattribution is sourced from John Toland. In Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976), it is attributed to Hitler in a speech of May 1, 1927. It is actually from Thoughts about the Tasks of the Future by Gregor Strasser, published on June 15, 1926.

Quote about Hitler

"The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Communism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation."

-Ludwig von Mises

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Doesn't sound like bro's to me.

Does Hitler allying with the Communist USSR to invade right wing Poland sound right wing?

Or, how about Hitler's greatest ally being a man who said all of this:

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

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You're dead right with this Ex Con. It's become really stupid because the fascist movement has resurrected itself in America and has managed to survive by confusing the fuck out of people and insisting it's their enemies who are the Nazis.

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Still waiting for you to provide us a link showing Mussolini , the creator of fascism, wasn't a left winger, so we can examine the data.

All of his wikiquote quotes are left wing.

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

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jamesbody(80) Disputed
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Still waiting for you to provide us a link showing Mussolini wasn't a left winger.

He literally founded the Italian Fascist Party you farcically stupid twit.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2][3][4] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[5] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[6] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.[6] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[6][7][8][9][10][11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

When are you going to finally comprehend that your enormously big mouth is not an adequate substitute for intelligence?

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Marx·ism

the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, later developed by their followers to form the basis for the theory and practice of communism.

Speak to the Communist that Karl Marx developed you Socialist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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