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 What's the deal with all of these Tea Parties? (14)

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What's the deal with all of these Tea Parties?

The point of the tea parties is to note the fact that the Democrats' modus operandi is to lead voters to believe they are no more likely to raise taxes than Republicans, get elected and immediately raise taxes.
Apparently, the people who actually pay taxes consider this a bad idea.

The lie at the heart of liberals' mantra on taxes -- "tax increases only for the rich" -- is the ineluctable fact that unless taxes are raised across the board, the government won't get its money to fund layers and layers of useless government bureaucrats, none of whom can possibly be laid off.

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4 points

It doesn't have anything to do with Democrats or Republicans.

iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

You're right, it has to do with crazy fringe people, with no respect for what the real tea party represented, and who have no idea what they are talking about,

since none of their taxes have been, or are planned to be raised.

that 99.9 percent of them are super far right republicans is all just a crazy ass coincidence...

Side: Astroturfing

Come on! You can't say that! I'm trying to get people fired up here and you're spoiling the fun! ;)

Side: Astroturfing
3 points

That's my job. ;)

Destroying partisan bullshit, wherever it may be.

Side: Astroturfing
2 points

The deal is that a bunch of deluded Republican shills are using the theme of a protest against taxation without representation to protest their current taxation WITH representation. These idiots are in this mess because of the last President's economic policies, whom most of them probably voted for and approved of.

God forbid Obama be in office for a few months and not magically solve the problem with a snap of his fingers. Revolution!

The funniest thing is that a lot of these "teabaggers" are protesting "wasteful government spending" by buying a lot of tea, and then wasting it. Yeah, that'll show the government!

Side: Astroturfing

The Tea Bag parties are a hollow echo from Ron Paul's presidential campaign that have been stolen by conservative think tanks run by Dick Armey and Newt Gingrich and then promoted by Fox News channel. This little movement was a "Top down" movement even though they were trying to portray it as grassroots. The term is "astroturfing". These were more Obama bashing parties than anything else with no clear singular message. It's even funnier when you consider that most of the people who were protesting were just part of the biggest tax cut in history, but that didn't stop them from saying their taxes are going up for NO reason at all.

In the scope of general protests, these were very small. Crowds were no where near the size of those seen during the Iraq war protests which were strangely enough not covered by Fox. People are angry about the economy but this protest was political theatre that used the people it gathered.

Even funnier was the lack of understanding of urban slang. Any videogamer knows what tea bagging is as well as most young people who are saavy enough to know the google. This hilarious little double entendre further proved how out of step those who set up these events are and further prove that this was definitely not from an upswell of young people like Ron Pauls movement.

Again, simply put: Astroturfing.

Side: Astroturfing
3 points

Well put, the whole thing is silly beyond belief, none of those people at these tea parties have actually had their taxes raised, nor will they, and it was all an elaborate PR stunt.

Side: Astroturfing

And why, may I ask, was I not invited to a Tea Party? I'm gay...THAT'S WHY!!! OOPS, I'm Late~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Side: Astroturfing
1 point

it's simple... another group of protesting.

i've always found protesting to be worthless and just empty news shit.

what's funny is how much CNN seems to be pissed at the tea party guys. i mean, have you seen some of the reporting? there's actually a reporter fighting with one of the protesters (who's an idiot), AND SHE STILL LOST!

it really shows the true colors of both the left and the right.

or maybe i'm just not motivational enough to attack higher taxes... idk. maybe i just don't have that Type A personality that causes me to get up and protest against something i find wrong.

or maybe, protesting is gay.

Side: Protesting is Gay
1 point

well, i did some more research on this, and i think i was wrong about them.

1. only one arrest. no violence or vandalism.

2. they don't even sound like angry dickfags. it seems more like a tailgate party. hell, Ted Nugent was there playing some bad ass guitar. It's actually a fun time where people who believe in small government are rallying round. hell, i probably would have gone down to one if i had known how non-gay it was (unlike other protests).

and the fact that CNN is so pissed at them, it just makes me think "wow, i've lost all respect for CNN".

Side: Protesting is Gay
-1 points

California tried the Obama soak-the-productive "stimulus" plan years ago and was hailed as the perfect exemplar of Democratic governance.

In just a few years, Democrats had turned California into a state -- or as it's now known, a "job-free zone" -- with a $41 billion deficit, a credit rating that was slashed to junk-bond status and a middle class now located in Arizona.

Democrats governed California the way Democrats always govern. They bought the votes of government workers with taxpayer-funded jobs, salaries and benefits -- and then turned around and accused the productive class of "greed" for wanting not to have their taxes raised through the roof.

Obama's biggest shortcoming is that he believes the things believed by all Democrats, which have had devastating consequences every time they are put into effect. Among these is the Democrats' admiration for raising taxes on the productive.

That's what the tea parties are about.

Side: Ann Coulter's right
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
3 points

So what was all that stuff in the 90's?

You know, when a democrat was in office, when we had the best economy in our history?

Yeah, going back to that would just be dumb...

Side: Ann Coulter's right
1 point

Clinton governed by polls. If that's what the people wanted, that's what he gave them. I don't recall Clinton raising taxes through the roof nor do I recall him starting all kinds of government programs, except for the one that got us in the mess we're in now ;)

Side: Ann Coulter's right