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 What the frick Obama. (16)

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What the frick Obama.

Seriously. Gun control through executive order? What the frick Obama. Even the states are disagreeing with him. And yet he still wants to do this. Wyoming and Texas are already saying enforcing his laws in their state will be crime. To enforce his laws, he is going to need to invade both Texas and Wyoming and probably more. What do you think will happen? Do you think the states have this kind of authority? Do you think the president has this kind of authority? I'm curious about everyone's thoughts. This isn't a debate on gun control, but on the legitimacy of this situation. 

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To enforce his laws, he is going to need to invade both Texas and Wyoming and probably more.

Well that should be easy. Partly because he already governs those states, and partly because... c'mon... the Rhode Island militia could invade Wyoming, if they wanted it. It's fucking Wyoming. More people live on my block than live in that entire state.

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He doesnt have to do anything.; He is the president he can VETO any law and can make any law, He president until 2013 , so there STFU

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Aside from clearly not understanding how the Executive branch works, as Scout pointed out, I would also like to point out that I was addressing an instance where certain states revolted and rebelled against federal control.

When the South seceded from the North, could the Northern government have passed a law to force them rejoin and abolish slavery? Hell no. That's why they fought a war, instead. So if certain states seceded from the US because of gun regulations, this administration could pass all the laws they want and the states that seceded wouldn't give a flying fuck, much less follow the laws.

What was it that you said? Oh, yeah, shut the fuck up.

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The president can't make laws. Only Congress can do that. And a veto doesn't end it. A revote in Congress with 2/3 majority trumps the veto.

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I read an article on this just to make sure. It's very upsetting that not only does Obama not understand gun control facts, but he also mocks those of us who would oppose his proposals, saying that we're equating his proposals with taking away all guns.

We're not. Any federal gun control is tyrannical, and his proposals are 10 steps beyond tyrannical. None of it is "reasonable" or "sensible" according to the facts in my second link. It is all bureaucratic and tyrannical.

BALLS

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It's also stupid that he is blaming AR-15's, yet the shooter at Sandy Hook didn't use an AR-15. He used 4 pistols. And the rifle in his car is being questioned on whether it was a militaristic weapon.

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Now that Sandy has occurred, the United States Government thinks they have an excuse to pass anti-gun laws and take away yet another right from the American people. Just like in the past, this is yet another opportunity the American Government is taking to remove citizens' rights in the name of protection.

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Gun control in the US is just not practical. It violates the right to bear arms. I think he may have overstepped on this one.

Hey, you people voted for him ;)

Would now be an inappropriate time to quote Emperor Palpatine?

"It would be... Civil War, without end."

I've quoted him a few times on this site so far, and every time I feel it makes my side the side of unquestionable evil. Not that that's gonna stop me XD

Here is a list of the executive actions. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/ 16/list-executive-actions-obama-plans-to-take-as-part-anti-gun-violence-plan/

I curious which ones are causing people to freak out. The only one I have a problem with is #16.

One does not simply disarm Texas...

It is now 2015 and I wish President Obama would issue an Executive Order for strict gun control.

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Uhm; Obama is the best president ever.; He is the one letting us keep our food stamps; he is the one letting us work.

Do you collect food stamps? I collect dollar bills myself ;)