Whats going to happen in 2012
Apparently the world will end on December 21, 2012.
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So the problem here is that the question is loaded. I guess the topic at hand is apocalypse and then the notion of 2012 rises. However it should be looked at as "What will happen in 2012?" The answer to which is a lot, because we think it will. As far as I know there is a defined second in which this event should happen. Everyone will freeze at this time, and when most likely nothing objectively physical happens, the way life will be resumed by the minds will then be shifted forward in the way wanted by the majority of people. Many of you can imagine a utopia, or at least some rules that should be changed. The reason why there is no radical shift at once is because when one percent of the population shifts, the other 99% don't flow with it and the status quo is restored by and to the minority. Given a "freeze" by everyone, processes midway which cannot be modified, not allowing the radical shift in mindset, procedure or viewpoint, are mostly stopped or ignored, and upon resuming, now all follow, or have the new majority-shared beliefs weighing into the final outcome. It could be as simple as people being grateful they remain alive, or laughing at the fact that others thought the world would end. It would be a large deviation from normal vectors that we all compare our everyday percepted information to, and every disaster would seem a bit less bad; "At least we are here to see this 'spilled milk'". Side: catastrophic disaster
Drawing parallels to now-confirmed predictions made by several prophets, remember that humans ultimately perform all of the acts prophesied. The fact that someone said it will happen, followed by the close watch or at least occasional memory by influential figures around the time of the prophesied act, no other time than that makes a better time to actually pull off a crime. It ends up looking "better" that while everyone is looking to prevent such upcoming disasters, the instigators manage to pull them off. Such is true for anything anyone may believe will happen in 2012, be it earth becoming Eden (out of our own volition) or aliens coming by. They'd choose the time when everyone is listening, everyone is watching the sky. Everyone is quiet, accepting. Submitting. That is when a message is best delivered. Perhaps the physicists at CERN have figured out how to make the feared "micro black hole" or some catastrophic phenomenon stable, allowing it to influence. Perhaps it will swallow us so quickly we won't see or feel it. Perhaps we will continue to all live past that point, in our own dreams and models of the world, without realizing the point where it shifted over. High level scientists and mathematicians are known to be deeply nihilist. Perhaps it has already happened Side: catastrophic disaster
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I'm not so sure I buy this whole the world will end junk. The mayans said that the 4th world will come to an end and the 5th will begin. Now if this means all life will be wiped out or just a new era starts i don't know. But it is proven that the magnetic poles will change because the earth will pass through the center of the galaxy and, in theory, the whole world will turn on its axis. Since the last time this happened was 50,000 years ago, there is no accounted recorded information on this so we have no idea what to expect. I think the mayans knew what they were talking about though because they predicted Hitler, the civil war, and the terrorists attacks on the right dates so they must have had something guiding them. Whether it was God, the stars, or something else, I don't know. But they were on to something when they made their calendar. Side: catastrophic disaster
1) We actually won't pass through the galactic plane ("center of the galaxy" in your terms) for another, oh 27 million more years. 2) By saying "turn on its axis" and you mean that the poles will shift (as I think you mean) then this will really do no harm to the Earth. Our poles have wandered about a degree every million years, so it's incorrect to say that this would happen so rapidly on any one day. Even if you meant that the magnetic poles would switch, as they do and we are overdue for a switch, these switches are due to the internal structure of the Earth, occur over a period of about 5,000 years (as in it starts and then 5,000 years later the switch is complete), are not affected by outside forces (e.g. solar flares), and cannot cause physical damage to the Earth. As for "we have no idea what to expect" because of a lack of HUMAN recorded history, we can look back on the geological timeline to study how the Earth responds to each of these changes that have occurred in the past, and find that the Earth isn't harmed at all by this. 3) Who ever said that the Mayans predicted Hitler, the civil war (assuming you're talking about the Civil War between the Confederate States of America and the United States of America), and some ambiguous reference to some terrorist attacks??? Provide me with a source to increase your credibility. Side: nothing
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i don't think the world will end on 2012. may be some disasters like earthquake, cyclone, etc... become more frequent but not as predictions like calender onwards 2012 is unavailable. no one knows whats going to happen.if people could predict everything then we couldn't have been in the present state the world is in. if it's going to be then we should think about the present n how to avert this??? can't they predict this ???? Side: No One Knows
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from what i have heard NASA is exepecting largest solar flare in 150 years which would not end the world, but since there is hole in our magnetic field so it will allow some amount of electromagnetic radiation into our atmosphere possibly nocking out our power grids, phone lines etc. of course this is not complete and total annihalation that that some people with big imaginations come up with but still could be a problem..... Side: catastrophic disaster
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more like a solution if you ask me, we are going to end our world though the devises you mentioned, power lines ect. so in actuality your "end of the world" hypothesis is but a preventive measure for the armageddon humanity is bringing on itself and the earth as a whole. bring it solar flare! Side: nothing
Remember the earth atmosphere is divided into 6 part & right now we are experiencing 5th atmosphere of earth , these atmosphere comes again & again ,like cycle (i.e after 6th again 6th starts and then 5th and so on ) & god existed in 4th atmosphere which is a good atmosphere . Now we are experiencing the bottom atmosphere that is 5th, where we are at bottom of pot filled with water, where more and more mud is settled at the bottom of pot and we are into mud . So now you can see & get an idea why in this world more violence is there . Instead of non-Violence . So my friends such small and big disaster are there and will be there, dude to violence . And which are related on string theories also . Side: catastrophic disaster
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People who are looking for disaster to occur are missing the boat when they talk about something coming from outer space. The greatest danger to modern man, aside from the occasional tsunami and earthquake and weather aberration is warfare. How long can nations continue to arm with deadly nuclear weapons before they want to use them? The world is full of disasters waiting to happen. What happens if extremist Muslims take over Pakistan? What if Iran is successful in creating a cache of nuclear weapons. What will happen when North Korea finally attacks the USA and or South Korea? On top of it all there is at least one prophetess from Bugaria, named Vanga, a woman who had a track record of making startlingly accurate predictions who predicted that WWIII would break out late this year as a conventional conflict and expand into a WW spanning 2012 and eventually bringing nuclear weapons into play. She predicted the war would start out as conflict in Indonesia, and while no war is currently going on there, the country does have frequent attacks on shopping centers and other places by Muslim extremists. She predicted that later in the war Muslims would eventually attack Europe with chemical weapons and make in uninhabitable. While Mayan experts claim the Mayans made not predictions about the end of the long calendar, which is the end of 13th B'ak'tun, one Mayan inscription found at a Mayan Sacred shrine did. Read this: The Thirteenth [b'ak'tun] will end.... Black ...[illegible]...will occur.... (It will be) the descent(?) of Bolon Yokte' K'uh to the great (or "red"?)...[illegible]... The author was predicting that at the end of this cycle, which is predicted to occur on Dec. 21, 2012 that something black will occur and that a person, described as the Mayan war deity will descend to the Earth. I personally won't stake money on the belief that horrible things will necessarily take place precisely on December 21, 2012. However, I believe a cyclic change is taking place that is going to flush out a lot of stuff from the minds of humanity and it will cause a lot of upheavals and potentially devastating war around the time of the cyclic change if not right on it. Side: You never know
Basically, we all know that the whole world nowadays is at risk meaning GLOBAL WARMING is the main cause. One effect is that the polar ice caps will melt (because of the intense heat) and of course the world will increase its water level and basically will sink. Another effect is the puncturing of the ozone layer due to excessive release of CFC (chlorofluorocarbon) gases into the atmosphere. The harmful ultraviolet rays that were restricted by the ozone layer now reach Mother Earth causing very harmful effects. Inconvenience to mankind at large as rise in global temperatures in some parts of the world has changed weather conditions. People not accustomed to such high temperatures are falling sick in large numbers. The rise in global temperatures is a great cause of worry for countries in the European belt not accustomed to high temperatures. One major factor of global warming is unilateral bombardment of Afghanistan and Iraq by USA and its allies. The war was declared in Afghanistan to root out terrorism. the resurfacing of Taliban in Afghanistan proves otherwise. The war was declared on Iraq to uncover WMD (weapons of mass destruction) which were never found! The other harmful effects being a rise in cases of skin diseases and the like.! Side: catastrophic disaster
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I don't know man, everything is starting to make sense now, even other beliefs show something happening. For instance, in the year of the cow, there was mad cow disease, in the year of the pig there was swine, and then there's gonna be the year of the dragon, I don't even want to know whats gonna happen. Side: catastrophic disaster
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The Mayans have been right about all their predictions, so why would they suddenly be wrong!? Plus, NASA believes there will be a catastrophic corona flair that will emit a lot of radiation towards earth. THATS NASA! NASA generally isn't wrong...so if the Mayans and NASA believes so, then I kind of believe it Side: catastrophic disaster
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We are living at a time when mankind seems to sense that the end of all things is very near. Just about everyone has a theory as to how the world is threatened and when that end might come. The media and the Internet are full of doomsday speculations concerning the New Age "Mayan Calendar" and the year 2012. Some scientists predict that Global Warming could wipe out life on Planet Earth within a certain number of years. At the same time, politicians work to halt the proliferation of life-destroying nuclear weapons before it is "too late." High profile news reports of economic downturns, crime, wars, tsunamis, earthquakes, and disease outbreaks cause people to question whether God is bringing judgment on the world. Side: catastrophic disaster
High profile news reports of economic downturns, crime, wars, tsunamis, earthquakes, and disease outbreaks cause people to question whether God is bringing judgment on the world. - I mean you no offense, but when have these reports not been broadcast? If we glance back in time, disease, tsunamis, wars, crime, earthquakes have all been recurring.
September 01 1949; I'd bet quite heavily a lot of people believed the world was coming to an end. Side: nothing
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We a re all going to Die a horrible Death , Blood will flow of the non believers, The Mayans will rise again , but they will be called Mexicans and force all people to eat bad taco's and be on welfare so that the Obama bots will control every part of your life. The United States will become a welfare State with total Government control.... over every part of your LIFE !!!!! Side: catastrophic disaster
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I don't really think anything's gonna happen in 2012. I'm sure that you watched the movie 2012 but I don't believe in the Mayan calendar. That's a bunch of B.S. All you retards out there can believe that the world's gonna end and you have to get on an ark of spaceship. HAHA Side: catastrophic disaster
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am i the only one that wants the world to end? before all of you jump to conclusions that im some psychotic depressed freak with no attachment for life, i love life. but i just cannot get the thought out of my head that i would live more in the short time (if the world did start to go to shit) then i would live in my entire life. and im a firm believer of quality over quantity. ive always been one that cared more about peoples feelings than my own, always one to try and make friends not enemies, friends help more later on in life, without a later to plan for i could finally do everything ive always wanted to, knowing, shit doesnt matter!thats just my perspective anyways. Side: catastrophic disaster
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I am not too sure. I am slightly worried. I am not a person who worships God, but I am a God fearing Australian. I just pray nothing will happen... I enjoy my life. With the world destroying itself with natural disasters, it is making me wonder. Sure, we don't help the world by all that we do, but this topic is playing on my mind. There has been floods in Queensland, that took half the state with it. Fires in America that burnt dangerously for days. Earthquakes in New Zealand, and another one a few days ago. The eathquake in Japan, that caused a massive tsunami, and nearly washed the island away, before causing four nuclear powerplants to melt. In Australia, we have a mouse plague at the moment. In Chille, a large volcano erupted, and the ash clound is now on the otherside of the world in Australia. Now, I could be all wrong in presuming something may happen, and it is just a period or a cycle the earth is going through, but honestly, I am slightly scared by the thought of 2012 being real. Side: catastrophic disaster
Certainly it will, as the SOHO has taken pictures of the oncoming of Planet X toward Earth. You can see it also in youtube videoes by NASA. Historically, Planet X is responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs on Earth, as this particular planet orbits Earth every three thousand years. It makes a near-flyby, and is what knocked Earth off its' axis. Side: Celestial Phenomona
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I think that some people may die in a disaster. http://finnewsdaily.com/2011/09/ Side: catastrophic disaster
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I think the idea that the world will end precisely in 2012 is a poor view, based on unreliable sources. It would be an impressive coincidence if it did. I would say the world could end in 2012, just as it could end today, or tomorrow, or next week, or in three years, or in a million. There's no knowing for sure. Anything could happen any time. If you can foresee the world heading into a pit of destructive misery by next year, then consider why and act on it. Volcanoes are erupting all over the place, the arms industry is expanding, as is nuclear power (apparently Russia and the USA have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world EIGHT times over), there's major evidence of climate change and we can see how quickly it is developing... Basically, if you want to ensure your chances of still existing in 2013 and the chances of humanity existing even in 4013, "be the change you want to see in the world". If we don't all act civil and humane NOW, we might survive for a few more generations, but not necessarily for more than that... But who knows? We could just get hit by a meteor, meaning it doesn't matter what we do now. Or we really could just continue to destroy ourselves. Depends how you want the Earth to end. Personally, I want it to never end - but if it does at any point, I want it to be with people knowing they did all they could to save it. Side: Anything
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January 1, 2000. September 11, 2008. June 6, 2009. December 21, 2012. What do they all have in common? Dates the world is supposed to end. All but one of them have passed and we're still here debating. Is there a chance? Sure. But the numbers, logic, reasoning, and common sense all say NO. Side: nothing
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I agree with you on this. Mayans dont know how to count. wel they do technically, but truth is, they cant count higher than 2012. And we cant just say there's a castrophic disaster thts gonna occur this year just because some ancient civilization's calender ended on the year 2012. a whole lot of strange things could happen any year. there could be hurricanes in the US and volcanoes erupting in japan and tornadoes and earthquakes and whatnot. 2000 years have passed and the world hasnt ended.the government could say that the world is ending in 2040, just because we ran out of paper to write on. Side: nothing
December 21, 2012 has been predicted as a time of global transformation and awakening or the end of the world, My understanding is that we are in a time of complete global transformation, with power returning to the people out of the hands of a few elite groups. The predictions of the Mayans, Hopis, Tibetans, East Indians all prophesied of this important time of change and transformation on the planet. In this lens, I share my own energy reading and information on what will be happening as we head toward 2012 and global transformation. What occurs in this year, will not actually be felt biologically until 2014. At the point of the synchronization of the 3 time cycles (a still point of major rhythms and cycles), a huge flash of light will emit from the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. Called the Evolutionary Light because its effect is evolution of all consciousness, not just human, its purpose is to send information out to other realms. The major effects of the light photons will not actually reach Earth until 2014. By then humanity will be ready to receive the information appropriate for it and for evolving in a new way with Earth. Side: nothing
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First of all, even if this flash did occur, how would it reach us in two years. It's light, right? Light takes twenty-five THOUSAND years to reach us from the center of our galaxy. So we likely woudn't see it until sometime in the 271st century. And second of all, what kind of evidence do you have for this flash thing? And what three time cycles are you talking about? The Mayan ones. Excuse me for putting this bluntly, but that's absolute insanity. Why would any of our earthly time cycles have any effect on our galaxy as a whole? Heck, we couldn't even make a big effect on our solar system if we tried. I agree with the guy who said you're batsh*t crazy, because you are. Side: nothing
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What occurs in this year, will not actually be felt biologically until 2014. At the point of the synchronization of the 3 time cycles (a still point of major rhythms and cycles), a huge flash of light will emit from the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. What you just stated is nonsense. The major effects of the light photons will not actually reach Earth until 2014. If a flash of light did in fact occur at the galactic plane, we would not see it until approximately 52012 AD. Side: catastrophic disaster
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We all know that peope fears are now about 21 May 2011 and December 21 2012. This 21 May 2011 is called judgement day and still some believes that CHRIST WILL COME BACK TO EARTH.December 2012 is more frustrating. NASA has reported about solar flares and the new thing is to know is EnigmaticMan(1341) who said about light rays. Who loves mother earth please pray to save your EARTH . Please rise against the ploutants to decrease global warming........................... Side: catastrophic disaster
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For thousands of year people thought that the world would end: from causing the gods anger to the antichrist, everything and anything has people scared. Christopher Columbus thought that it would happen in the 1660s. London, in 1666, underwent a grand catastrophe when a conflagration enveloped the city in September. June 6, 2006 ('666') was also a date many feared. Everytime that there is a ruler or a politician, or anybody famous for that matter, the Christians have always thought him the Antichrist and believed he would hail the end of the world, or other such things along that line. The Norse believed in the Ragnarok, where the gods would meet their demise against their enemies. The so-called 'gotterdammarung' never happened and I should imagine went mostly forgotten after the conversion of the Norse to Christianity. P.S. Sorry about the shoddily writted article, eschatology is not one of my strong suites. Side: nothing
A lot of people cite the Mayans calendar as predicting the end in 2012. First of all the mayans didn't have A calendar they had many calendars none of them mention anything about the end of the world....2012 is just where the latest calendar arbitrarily stops. According to the calendar in my kitchen the world is going to end in 2011 since that's where it stops. The whole thing is utter ridiculousness. Side: nothing
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2012 is for entertainment purposes. The Mayans and ancient races obviously thought it would be hilarious to make future generations worry, hold up signs saying "The End is Near," and making people save money for the end to come and when 12/21/2012 really does come, nothing happens so they become broke and die. Side: nothing
Nothing, and i mean nothing, is going to occur on December 21st, 2012, for the following reasons. 1.) If you haven't already noticed, setting dates for an apocalypse is quite stupid, because of a certain thing called time zones. Time zones make it impossible for us to calender global events because the times and dates differ around the world. If scientists have a good explanation as to why the world would have ended on one side of the earth hours ahead of the other side, then maybe, just MAYBE I would buy this. 2.) The Mayan calender is anything but accurate. Why is it even still being consulted? 3.) This is just another scare scientists are leaking into the media. There has been enough false alarms concerning the Apocalypse that I'd hope everyone in the world would get the idea that they are pulling chains. Sadly, that is not the case, observing the question of this thread. 4.) I have noticed people are talking about United States economics. What in the world? What does this have to do with the world ending? The world's economics depended on the World Trade Center in Manhattan, New York. Well if you haven't caught on by now, the World Trade Center was wiped out 9 years ago. If the world was going to end according to economics, trust and believe thats when it would have happened. 5.) The only proof supporting 2012's theory is an inaccurate calender. God forbid they give us some concrete scientific evidence that could lead to the earth's doom. Any proof they have is something thats occurred way too long ago to even be considered a problem for the future. Well, thats it. Hopefully this is enough to shine a light in the dim minds of most people today. Side: nothing
Well I don't know if "nothing" will happen, but I can totally see a radical change happening. I believe that the Mayans either ran out of room on their calendar (or got lazy) or that they were warning us of a change. I don't think 2012 is going to be the end of the world. Side: nothing
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Just, take a brief look at these failed apocalyptic predictions, anything ranging from astronomic/(pseudo)scientific predictions, religious prophecies, to reaction to catastrophic natural events and societal collapse has been taken for sign of apocalypse. http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/ And the hype of 2012 will most likely turn out to be nothing more than a neat marketing trick. If Mayan were still here, this will simply be a Y2K problem for Mayan software engineers, similarly one would not expect the world to end just because UNIX system time 'reset' to '1970' in 2038. Side: nothing
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10. Changes in the Sun's magnetic field will lead to powerful flares. So what else is new under the sun? The sun goes though a well-documented 11-year sunspot cycle that is driven by its magnetic field entangling, reforming and flipping polarity. Yes, the peak of the next cycle is in 2012 (or 2013), and some predictions suggest it might be 30 to 50 percent stronger than the last peak. But experts say it will certainly not be the biggest peak ever recorded. The bottom line is that no dragon's breath of flame will stretch across 100 million miles of space and blowtorch Earth. The largest solar flare recorded to date, on Nov. 4, 2003, spewed several billions of tons of plasma in Earth's direction. The flare's X-ray radiation that impacted our protective atmosphere had the equivalent radiation of 5,000 suns. We're still here. 9. The Earth's magnetic field will reverse. Don't hold you breath. The last field reversal happened nearly 800,000 years ago. Fred Flintstone and our other ancestor cavemen survived. Geological evidence shows that the field has reversed its orientation tens of thousands of times over Earth history. Yet there is no definitive evidence that a magnetic field reversal has ever caused any mass extinction due to increased cosmic ray influx. 8. The Earth's rotation axis will tip. This isn't nearly as easy as tipping cows. Unlike Mars, which does go though wide excursions in it axial tilt, Earth's tilt is kept steady by the gravitational influence of the moon. An object the size of Mars would have to hit Earth to transfer enough momentum to knock us out of kilter. But Mars-sized protoplanets were kicked into interstellar space over 4 billion years ago. The solar system doesn't make "planets-gone-wild" anymore. 7. A grand alignment of Jupiter and Saturn will gravitationally perturb Earth. For the past several decades there have been doomsday claims that the combined gravity from grand planetary alignments will cause geologic and meteorological upheavals on Earth. None are scheduled for 2012. In 1962 an extremely rare grand conjunction of the classical naked-eye planets drove astrologers crazy. The conjunction happened on Feb. 4-5 and was accompanied by a solar eclipse! The most infamous grand conjunction was in 1982 and popularized in a book called "The Jupiter Effect," which predicted earthquakes and massive tides. Life went on as usual both years. The moon has a vastly greater gravitational influence on Earth than Jupiter. It's called location, location, location! At a whopping distance of 400 million miles from Earth, Jupiter's tug is pretty wimpy. 6. The Sun will align with the galactic equator on the winter solstice. So what? These are simply coordinates in the sky. It has no physical reality any more than the intersection of Broadway and 7th Avenue at Times Square influences the geology of Manhattan Island. This is greatly confused with the fact that the sun's position actually oscillates up and down as it orbits the galaxy, like a horse on a carousel. We pass through the galactic plane every 35 to 40 million years. It's possible that an increased number of comets might be hurled towards the Earth because of gravitational interaction with the densest parts of our galaxy during this passage. But we are talking about the consequences spanning many thousands of years, not crashing down on our heads in any one specific year. 5. The black hole in the galactic center will affect us. The Milky Way's black hole has no influence on the galactic disk. The black hole is three million solar masses. The Milky Way is several trillion solar masses when we add the tug of dark matter. Any gravitational influence of the black hole over the galaxy would be like the tail wagging the dog. The Milky Way's collision with the Andromeda galaxy will dump gas into the black hole and it will blaze as a quasar. But that's several billion years away. 4. An asteroid will smash into Earth. A threatening near-Earth asteroid that's gotten the most press is the 900-foot wide Apophis. But its chances of collision have been downgraded to 1 in 250,000 at its next close approach in 2029. In theory, an uncharted asteroid or comet could come out of the blue tomorrow. But if we don't know about it today, the Mayans certainly didn't know about it 1,200 years ago. Earth-killer impacts are tens of millions of years apart. So there's no reason to be a doomsday clock-watcher. 3. The rogue planet Nibiru will swing by Earth. There isn't such a planet any more than the planet Naboo from the Star Wars trilogy is real. Purported Internet pictures of the interloper are photographic lens flares or hoaxes. Don't believe every dot you see photographed in the sky. 2. Supernovae or hypernovae will irradiate Earth. There are no stars that are so close to Earth that radiation from their supernova demise would seriously affect us. The nearest candidate, the red giant Betelgeuse, is predicted to explode in the next 1,000 years. The monster star Eta Carinae is also on a short fuse. Neither doomed star has a spin axis precisely aimed at Earth, so we don't have to worry about being fried by a narrow beam of gamma rays ejected from the core's implosion. In fact the kinds of stars that shoot out these Death Star beams are uncommon in the Milky Way. Earth has a one percent chance of getting zapped over 10 billion years. Scratch gamma ray bursts off of your homeowner's insurance policy. 1. A cloud of negative energy engulfs the solar system. Wow! A dark cloud with a bad attitude! 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I dont think the world will end. Ok lets look at it this way how manny times did they say the world was going to end ???? to manny times and gess what guys?? where still here???people who think the EARTH will END are nuts???Think about it? the calendor dont even say its going to end???It says ill be a BIG CHANGE but how do we know this for sure??like i said i belive that the earth will still be here and plus? I wont need to worry about the earth dieing its all fake Side: nothing
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First of all, the world is only going to end when the sun burns out, which is like, what, 13 TRILLION years from now. Secondly, the only reason people believe the world will end in 2012 is because of the stupid movie inspired by the stupid Aztecs, whose world ended thousands of years ago. Their calendar ended there because some god exploded then or something. And lastly, there is no LOGICAL explanation for the world ending in 2012, so why should anyone have any reason to believe so? Thank you, and side with me in today's debate! Side: nothing
On all of these types of days there is always a few suicides, nothing more. If you believe on god then that doesn't mean that you have to believe in 2012. The way you beleive on things is your buisiness, you shouldn't be scared of anything. And if there were any signs of the world ending, scientist would have found out a while ago. And besides why would Jesus kill everyone if he had the message of love and life. I think people shouldn't be told what is giong to happen, people should find out for there own self. And sorry to say this, but Jesus is'nt the almighty, his real message to people was that he was a human being, and everyone can be like him, everyone can love their neighbors, everyone can spread effection and sympathy to the world. He would never take the life of another human being. And if anyone else believes that it won't be Jesus and it will be the comets that crash into the world or the world erupting, or whatever then do as much as you can good in your life before it happens. Pay some old bills, say sorry to people you have made fun of, give your mom and dad a hug, pet your dog, work out if your a bit overweight, go to a resteraunt that you have always wanted to go to but just don't tell me that, because i will be 16 and i want to see what i get for christmas. there may be something that happens like maybe the Yellowstone volcano will erupt.But there will be nothing that has to do with the end of the world.Yes the Mayan calender ends on that date ,but that doesn't mean that is when the world is going to end.I mean common people they could have been taken over by another colony before they could finish the calender.But we are not all going to die.We survived the ice age the end of the dinosaurs.there will be no tragedy that kills the human race.We have satellites that detects meteors and missiles to intercept them.well cant write anymore got to go bye. As to that no one is curtain. However, using reason and modern knowledge we know that the metier heading for earth is another couple hundred years away, all forms of deadly diseases known to man are not capable of wiping out humanity in the next 2 years, Yellowstone could erupt but that will not be the end of the world and the recession is easing up(haha).It's all in Gods hands but when observing history as a prolific tool, which is the whole point of history, one can conclude that we are HIGHLY LIKELY to still exist beyond the year 2012. Well in the bible it said that Jesus made a small tree die and he said that when this tree bears fruit my temple will be built and a few years later(could be a hundred or a thousand to him) the Antichrist will come and then a few years later I the lord, your savior will return. so right now the temple is being built and is soon going to finish. also instead of the world ending and many people believing that the world will end in 2012 there might be a lot of suicides because people think the world will end so they kill themselves so they won't go through the catastrophic event supposedly.I dont think the world will end. Ok lets look at it this way how manny times did they say the world was going to end ???? to manny times and gess what guys?? where still here???people who think the EARTH will END are nuts???Think about it? the calendor dont even say its going to end???It says ill be a BIG CHANGE but how do we know this for sure??like i said i belive that the earth will still be here and plus? I wont need to worry about the earth dieing its all fake.First of all, the world is only going to end when the sun burns out, which is like, what, 13 TRILLION years from now.Secondly, the only reason people believe the world will end in 2012 is because of the stupid movie inspired by the stupid Aztecs, whose world ended thousands of years ago. Their calendar ended there because some god exploded then or something.And lastly, there is no LOGICAL explanation for the world ending in 2012, so why should anyone have any reason to believe so?Thank you, and side with me in today's debate! Side: The World Is Safe
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We lived through W2K, the second coming of Jesus (he was supposed to rise 2000 years after his death and judge the living and some crazy stuff), June 6th, 2006 (666), and the fact that we haven't nuked ourselves into oblivion yet is a good sign. I say bring it on, 2012. The human race is too hard to kill off, nowadays. We'll find a way to live, to survive, and to regrow and rebuild. The only way we're dying is if we use up Earth to the point where everything just runs out, or until a rock the size of us rips through us. Side: nothing
They said the world was going to end in the year 2000 but what happend absoulutely nothing just because someone predicts something doesent mean they can predict everything the world will not end for another something million years or if we man kind do it by mistake it will not end for god sakes SO DONT WORRY! Side: nothing
Whats going to happen in 2012 Umm.. Lemme see.. Re-elections, more corruption, more rapes, a few random nuclear explosions, a bit of evolution, some abortion debates, some more abortions, a few suicides, some more riots, more loss of virginity and then there was one more thing? Oh yeah.. My birthday will be back! Catastrophic disaster? Isn't that already, slowly happening? Side: nothing
I think that nothing will happen. I think that because just because some primitive people made a big stone thing with pictures on it says the world will end, it doesn't mean that it will. It was made thousands of years ago, they didn't know anything about modern astronomy. Anybody who thinks that it will end because a big rock says so, is dumb, and should get some common sense. Side: nothing
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Not gonna happen in 2012. But we do have a 1 in 300 chance of getting destroyed by an asteroid in 2880. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Side: nothing
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Only the scientist has predicted about the worlds end. there prediction may be wronge also. my teacher say that there will be a world war only, and its is sappossed to be the end of world.but i think so that believe on yourself,do good works, as good peoples never get abad end of there life.and if you believeon god so everything will be fine. Good luck Side: nothing
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great site !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Side: nothing
I can't believe that this debate is still on. how many times must I write that nothing will happen in 2012 or any other crappy date??? if anything does happen we won't have time to debate it on. so forget this PLZ. Anyway, something might happen if this debate does go on. because it doesn't seem to me that there is something that will happen anytime soon but this debate won't ever end. not until 2012 at least. Side: nothing
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As to that no one is curtain. However, using reason and modern knowledge we know that the metier heading for earth is another couple hundred years away, all forms of deadly diseases known to man are not capable of wiping out humanity in the next 2 years, Yellowstone could erupt but that will not be the end of the world and the recession is easing up(haha).It's all in Gods hands but when observing history as a prolific tool, which is the whole point of history, one can conclude that we are HIGHLY LIKELY to still exist beyond the year 2012. Side: nothing
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as far as what I have heard nothing is going to happen or if anything nothing special, however I have heard it is more that just a "worlds going to end" thing and theres more to it than that so I MIGHT be willing to change my mind based off if anyone gives me any more information on it and if they can provide evidence for it. Side: nothing
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there may be something that happens like maybe the Yellowstone volcano will erupt.But there will be nothing that has to do with the end of the world.Yes the Mayan calender ends on that date ,but that doesn't mean that is when the world is going to end.I mean common people they could have been taken over by another colony before they could finish the calender.But we are not all going to die.We survived the ice age the end of the dinosaurs.there will be no tragedy that kills the human race.We have satellites that detects meteors and missiles to intercept them.well cant write anymore got to go bye. Side: nothing
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On all of these types of days there is always a few suicides, nothing more. If you believe on god then that doesn't mean that you have to believe in 2012. The way you beleive on things is your buisiness, you shouldn't be scared of anything. And if there were any signs of the world ending, scientist would have found out a while ago. And besides why would Jesus kill everyone if he had the message of love and life. I think people shouldn't be told what is giong to happen, people should find out for there own self. And sorry to say this, but Jesus is'nt the almighty, his real message to people was that he was a human being, and everyone can be like him, everyone can love their neighbors, everyone can spread effection and sympathy to the world. He would never take the life of another human being. And if anyone else believes that it won't be Jesus and it will be the comets that crash into the world or the world erupting, or whatever then do as much as you can good in your life before it happens. Pay some old bills, say sorry to people you have made fun of, give your mom and dad a hug, pet your dog, work out if your a bit overweight, go to a resteraunt that you have always wanted to go to but just don't tell me that, because i will be 16 and i want to see what i get for christmas. -Omid Iron Mehrage Side: The World Is Safe
I can't believe that this debate is still on. how many times must I write that nothing will happen in 2012 or any other crappy date??? if anything does happen we won't have time to debate it on. so forget this PLZ. Anyway, something might happen if this debate does go on. because it doesn't seem to me that there is something that will happen anytime soon but this debate won't ever end. not until 2012 at least.As to that no one is curtain. However, using reason and modern knowledge we know that the metier heading for earth is another couple hundred years away, all forms of deadly diseases known to man are not capable of wiping out humanity in the next 2 years, Yellowstone could erupt but that will not be the end of the world and the recession is easing up(haha).It's all in Gods hands but when observing history as a prolific tool, which is the whole point of history, one can conclude that we are HIGHLY LIKELY to still exist beyond the year 2012 Side: The World Is Safe
January 1, 2000. September 11, 2008. June 6, 2009. December 21, 2012. What do they all have in common? Dates the world is supposed to end. All but one of them have passed and we're still here debating. Is there a chance? Sure. But the numbers, logic, reasoning, and common sense all say NO. Side: nothing
There have been hundreds of prophecies/predictions about the end of the world throughout history, but as far as I am aware, I'm still alive on planet earth. If you disagree I would love to talk, I know a good therapist who lives next door to me! Side: The World Is Safe
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ok, so we need to go back to history a bit more. The Mayan people said that 2012 was an year of disaster caused by the grand cross, which is an event where the solar winds destroy the earth's gravity and magnetic field, disrubting our environment. They say this will happen when all the planets line up in one line, and the gravity becomes amazingly strong. Tough luck. Another similar event, when almost all of the planets lined up in about the 1900's or so. Nothing happened. Also, they say the solar winds will melt the ground, and make mega tsunami's and earthquakes. huh. Not only the melting of the ground is ridiculous, but that the solar winds will already evaporate the ocean. How can there be a tsunami without water? Also, even if we say that the melting of the ground is true, there would have to me a huge amount of solar wind. When an earthquake happens, all of earth would already have gone by the huge amound of heat and energy! This leads to the conclusion: "Mayans were stupids, and their theory's don't make sense at all!!!!!!!!!!" One major argument about earth being destroyed gone. Side: nothing
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www.perceivedreality.freeforums.org • There is so much happening to the planet. volcanoes earthquakes, landslides, sink holes, Birds and Fish dying in the thousands and now cattle freezing to death. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT ALL? perceivedreality is a discussion site (try not to argue!) where you can debate your theories and hear new ones... Side: just read this and you'll understand
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Not quite nothing will happen. It will be the first time in a very, very long time (somewhere around 25,000 years) that the Earth, the Sun, and the center of the Milky Way will line up. I'm not sure what that means astrologically, but it's something. Side: Celestial Phenomona
Hmmm, where did you hear that? A friend at school? Internet? Is it a reliable source? Instead of wasting your time, asking people you don't know about it, research yourself! Talk to people you trust (Parent, Teacher, Pastor, etc) and look up facts about it. Serrrriiiiiiooooooooouuuuuuuussssssssll Side: LookItUpYourselfff
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they could have just STOPPED COUNTING! or they just picked a random date It's just some number. anyone can say the world'll end on any day, any time. watch, I'll do it: the world will end in 2048, when the missing month after december, "ember", reapperes on the calender!!!! And it will be at 5:30 for everytime zone! MWA HA HA HA!!! see? there's no proof! unless it says so in the Bible, I won't belive it. Side: nothing
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i will laugh on December 21, 2012 at whatever O'Clock i will laugh in 2013, when we're still here, and i will enjoy watching the Maximum Ride movie supposedly comming out in 2013 (it was suppose to be 2010. but that's gone and they pushed the date) Side: I will laugh in 2013 when we still here
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nothing will happen there was like six other times, but if u think nothing is going to happen on 2012 then that would be a day to stay inside because thats when all of the crazy people will come out. who cares what the miyans predict thousands of years ago if there calender ends mabey they should have gotton another one Side: nothing
NOTHING is going to happen in 2012 everyone thinks that there will be a disaster and we will all die. But ask your self this why will it happen because of some stupid calender maybe it ended in the year or 2012 because they didn't finish it. If you really think that something will happen dont hold your breath. And again ask stop and ask your self why do i think it will happen then you will realize you are freaking out over nothing. Side: nothing
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Well,it was supposed to be 2012 bt now its been changed to 21st of may 2011.Dummies.They don't realise that theres something called a chaos theory and that no amount of technology no matter how sophisticated cn predict the future intoto.Its impossible but we'll wait and see. Side: nothing
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It's the Mayan calendar (just saying), and the end date is the end of their cycle. The Mayans believed that another cycle will simply begin December 22, 2012. Anyone who says that the world will end is simply supporting the stupidity that infects the human population. Side: nothing
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To suggest that simply because the Mayan calendar terminates on a specific date means that the world will end indicates a lack of a factual basis. In many ways, the aforementioned measurements of time were arbitrary, and as such this notion should be disregarded. Side: nothing
"HEY DONT CALL ME STUPID!" ha ha jk i know what is going to happen in 2012 every one that paid thousands (some times millions) of bucks on a bunker are gonna feel dumb and get mad and sue peopl thus wasting more money and the the economy will get better:D but realy i agree 99.999999999% with u. and mabey some one should play a joke on somebody and set fireworks around there house or something that would be funny:D Side: nothing
nothing would ever happen in 2012, and its only false statements made by people who think something might actually happen that has created this stupid n worthless discussion. although i'd rather state that if something would happen it would result in prooving that in my life till 2012 i have done nothing of worth =/ bt study like mad... =/ and anyway if something does happen in 2012, i'd love to see you guys prove me wrong ;P lol Side: wat kind of an idiot thought this
First of all, I like to imagine that all of us would not imagine the end of the world. But at least I liked to imagine the positive points which let us know that the world will not end. And facts, and/or reasons supported this view. According to some religious people the earth first will lead to new empires still to come. Before Jesus will return. According to other religious people the new Messiahs already came and here-fore they live on new earth and have received spiritually the new heaven. Next is from a different point of view. Some astrologists from Gelageo already are for-saying about after 2012. Some of us already thought that the world would end before this very date. Furthermore there is no threats to be seen or ongoing processes that lead to catastrophic disasters leading towards the end of the world before 2012. It is now already April 2011. Government already should have warned us and government should have prepared us to - for example - take a space-shuttle flight to a space-station big enough. Because thanks to world-wide observance systems the government would have been warned. And don't we know about alarms warning whole populations? I do not see on the news that whole populations are about egoism or in chaos so much that in 8 and a half months the globe would end thanks to a catastrophic disaster. Look the world also might end thanks to our pessimism influencing our thoughts to think towards an end of the world in 2012. But optimism is universal. Almost 90 procent of the people around the globe even expect life to be better the next five years. There is a futurist fact-sheet which let's us know that people in many parts of the world will become older than 60 because of to the world they live in. Thus people-optimism, worldwide nature-surveillance systems of any good-working kind, and even for some of us also or even only God will save us at least for a longer period than 1 year and seven months. Side: nothing
To me i support the fact that nothing may happen in 2012 due to the fact that the satellites by now would be giving us warnings or show us that we are gone for sure,because by now there would be visuals in the atmosphere since we are remaining with a few months if at all its to happen, and on the other hand god cant allow that planet or so called nibiru to hit the earth if he hasn' t said yes or any soat of permission Side: nothing
The world ending in 2012 is about as realistic as getting struck by lightening, bitten by a shark, being hit by a car, and riding across a rainbow on a unicorn all on one day. All the Mayans said was that they saw big black birds in the future, not that a big plane would crash into the twin towers. They haven't actually predicted anything unlike what some of you people are saying. Side: I will laugh in 2013 when we still here
Only watch the video thanks to the link below. And see that certain dates about the ending of the world are not to be trusted. Because the 2012 date of the Maya's is not the only - about the end of the world - date known thanks to the Maya's. Maya's 2012 date can be wrong!
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A state-directed economy is a system where either the state or worker cooperatives own the means of production, but economic activity is directed to some degree by a government agency or planning ministry through coordinating mechanisms such as indicative planning and dirigisme. This differs from a centralised planned economy (or a command economy) in that micro-economic decision making, such as quantity to be produced and output requirements, are left to managers and workers in the state and cooperative enterprises rather than being mandated by a comprehensive economic plan from a centralised planning board. However, the state will plan long-term strategic investment and seek to coordinate at least some aspects of production. It is possible for a state-directed economy to have elements of both a market and planned economy. For example, investment decisions may be semi-planned by the state, but decisions regarding production may be determined by the market mechanism. Side: nothing
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Nothing is going to happen... Of course there is talk of scientific evidence and of the Mayan calender but consider this: The Mayans did not believe in leap year. So their calender did not correspond to the issues involving leap years. "2012" should have happened a while ago. Nonetheless, I personally believe such a catastrophe will not occur. Side: nothing
Nothing's going to happen in this year. You guys believe in such foolish things Side: nothing
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3.0.0.0.0 marks time according the the Earth's slow wobble called precession when the Sun/Lord travels the Milky Way up and around the vault of heaven to the region of Polaris, thereby entering the Heart of Sky. The eccentricity of the Earth's orbit, the axial tilt, and and precession of the equinoxes are called Milankovitch Cycles reference http://www.associatedcontent. Side: nothing
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Well in the bible it said that Jesus made a small tree die and he said that when this tree bears fruit my temple will be built and a few years later(could be a hundred or a thousand to him) the Antichrist will come and then a few years later I the lord, your savior will return. so right now the temple is being built and is soon going to finish. also instead of the world ending and many people believing that the world will end in 2012 there might be a lot of suicides because people think the world will end so they kill themselves so they won't go through the catastrophic event supposedly. Side: catastrophic disaster
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