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I love my family and my country and if the day comes that I have to fight or die to save either of them I will do it.
But with that said, it has not been proven that this is yet the time. Sure, Trump is a complete reversal from everything we've seen for 30 years. But he represents one of many possible motivations within the self interests of citizens of a democracy. You don't get to kill a President just because you are opposite their political motivations.
If he started directly killing groups of US citizens without due process, then it's the time.
If he were proven to be a traitor and it's the only way to take him out, then it's the time.
Even if he wasn't directly hurting US citizens but instead was committing human rights tragedies, war crimes, etc., on a grand scale, then it's the time.
So let's wait and see, shall we. In the meantime he is still the elected President of the USA.
How coiuld Obama be "raping the country" when supposedly he was just an incompetent boob? And when did he ever say or do anything relevant to suppressing civil rights, censoring the press, or oppressing or banning particular groups of people?
Obama wasn't incompetant. He was using taqiyya to dismantle this country by putting it in heavy debt, opening our allys' doors to our enemies, and divided the country by race. It was a perfect inside job.
Who said that it wasn't? Europe and North America are demanding us mix with Islamists all at the same point in history? Isn't that convenient...
Trump messed up their plans. Like him or not, whether he's a great person or not, he jacked up their rule of law. That would explain the media and the globalists and Hollywood declaring war on him. He was the first President these people couldn't buy or block because he was rich. I watched video of him when he was young. He said he'd never run for President unless he knew we were in trouble. He knows something and he's trying to block it.
There is no greater way to rule the world than Sharia law. And they are looking for "the one", the Mahdi to rule the world. They believe all leaders were ordained by Allah. Anyone that would oppose them would be struck down.
You are welcome to go on debate.org and look through my old brontoraptor debates. I was certain that Bush was a part of a global.conspiracy of the elites. Now I see him and Obama acted like best buds at the inauguration and other events? What? They were both in on it.
Oh I completely believe there is in fact more than one global conspiracy of elites. What I DON'T believe, however, is that Trump either a) is standing up against that (instead that is in fact what he aspires to be himself), or b) that he is truly part of the in crowd of such elites (more likely he is their patsy).
It's always technically possible. But I've never seen the establishment oppose a President so vigorously. Nor can I see any point in it. Wouldn't the media and Hollywood and Soros just praise him and suppress bad coverage of him?
Idiots (I'm assuming you mean intellect), don't create the empire that he has created. You can't call him a "greedy capitalist" with your left hand and then call him stupid and unsuccessful with your right hand.
"But with that said, it has not been proven that this is yet the time. Sure, Trump is a complete reversal from everything we've seen for 30 years"
So was Obama. You stood there like a sheep. You stood there with your thumb up your butt, and did nothing because you stand for nothing. It's okay, we took up the slack because we are men. We got this. The wussbags can hit the showers and "hope for the best".
Wait. Obama was a total reversal? I thought every Democrat ever in office was guilty the same as him? Get your story straight.
And you're a man taking up the slack? No, you're a man with far too much time to surf the web who tweaks a half dozen troll avatars to advance redneck politics.
Well, Trump's reaction to McCain as a prisoner of war was to say if he was a better soldier he wouldn't have been caught. So basically Trump would blame your lack of legs on being a poor soldier.
It doesn't matter. Me being offended or not offended...
1)Depends on my self esteem and thickness of skin, which is high.
2)And my being offended or not doesn't matter if he gets the job done at the end of the day.
I'd take an offensive person who gets the debt down and protects us from terrorism over someone with a big smile and a small brain. It saved Great Britain from defeat at the hand of the Nazis.
So under your logic, people would be within their rights to have taken Obama out when it comes to human right's tragedies such as No restriction abortions of viable babies for any reason (INFANTICIDE)! He supports it!
It matters not if the Democrat Party has kept it legal as they once did with slavery. They are all just as inhuman as Obama, just like any other person who supports it with their vote.
Was slavery committing human right's tragedies even though it was legal?
When are you going to learn that 90% of the developed Western world disagrees with your absolute antiabortion stance? Never, of course. It's not an accurate anaology when you're by far in the minority in your belief that it's wrong.
And if Obama, or Trump, or anyone brought slavery back then yes I'd agree with taking action to end that, too.
You REFUSE to admit that you are in the MINORITY when it comes to views in this country on late term abortions.
OVER 80% OF AMERICANS WANT RESTRICTIONS ON LATE TERM ABORTIONS. PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY DO NOT! YOU ARE ALT-LIBERAL ETREMISTS WHEN IT COMES TO ABORTION.
These words are from a site speaking to late term abortions in other nations....
"That said, PolitiFact Virginia in May rated True a claim that the U.S. is "one of only seven nations that allows elective abortions after 20 weeks post-fertilization." Its story said the word "elective" distinguished the statement from the claims previously taken up by PolitiFact researchers."
That is why I will continue to ban you from my debates. It is a total waste of time to debate deceptive people.
People back a few hundred years ago spoke just like you do with regards to excusing Slavery. They were wrong then and you are wrong now!
Nope. If 80% shared your view you'd already have legislative victory on your issue. You don't. Because you're oversimplifying. The vast majority of US states do not allow it. And out of those that do the total number of abortions in that category is more like 600 a year, which out of national population is pretty puny, AND those are mainly for medical reasons.
You first said that if 80% shared my view, the Federal law protecting viable lives would be passed.
Lets see, you just admitted that vast majority of US States do not allow No restriction abortions.
Hmmmmmm, the vast majority oppose no restriction abortions for any reason (AS I SAID AND YOU DENIED) yet the Democrat Party is made up of radical pro abortion politicians paid for by the feminist and abortion lobbies.
It matters not what the vast majority of Americans want when these corrupt money grabbing politicians only listen to where the money is coming from and refuse to listen to the people.
As I said before, people like you two hundred years ago were probably making the same ludicrous excuses that very few Slaves were beng killed by their masters. So why worry about it!
How many viable babies being killed for any reason bothers the likes of you?
All of your petty excuses are wasting our time. It's sad we have people in this nation lacking the same simple humanity that certain people lacked during slavery.
I don't get your ramble. You didn't catch me in anything. People don't agree with you, and if they did you'd have your way. Done. Really all you have with that last response in the same old tired bold assertion that the Democratic Party is over the top gun ho on abortion, which they aren't. They're simply pro choice.
And there is absolutely no parallel between abortion and slavery. Abortion is one mother's choice at one moment in time, slavery was a government-wide institution maintained over the span of entire lifetimes. Not even close.
You are such a deceptive laugh and a total waste of time to debate. I keep giving you another chance to show some small degree of honesty nd credibility but YOU NEVER DO!
Our system is not a democratic system, it is a republican system. A democratic system is majority rule. A republic uses democratic vote to choose representative leaders.
You are the one who is being insulting to the United States of America. The "resistance" you are promoting is fascism.
2)If you'd fought in Korea, you'd understand that foreign cultures are not something we want over here with our brothers, sisters, and kids, or are you a psychopath? Just admit it if you're stupid or insane.
Yeah, I misspelled a word. So? I fought in Vietnam, not Korea, and what's that got to do with anything??
Look.. I LOVE foreign cultures.. Here in MY city, we have Chinatown, Koreatown, Vietnam town, Mexican neighborhoods, Polish neighborhoods, Somali neighborhoods, black neighborhoods, white neighborhoods, African neighborhoods, Muslim neighborhoods, Jewish neighborhoods, and others TOO many to name..
That, my dear creature, IS the fabric of America. I daresay that your clan, the NAME CALLING clan, is part of it too..
When Obama was spending like it was a shopping spree, the military was depleted, healthcare tanked, and he was bombing countries like it was a video game, you put up no resistance.
Trump won by democratic means and the only way to remove him should be from democratic means instead of violence. If you really care about removing Trump, write letters to your state senators and representatives and get Congress to turn against him. Remember we live in a democracy where the people have the power and no matter what Trump does he can't change that or he will undoubtedly be impeached.
It doesn't really matter. You people have to lot at stake about that exit from the Paris Treaty.
And that's when I don't count all the research funds that have been cut.
Consider it the end of American tyranny (and all those withdrawing military operations). US has, pretty much, been dictating world affairs for well over a century.
I'd love for the U.S. to get out of most world affairs and become isolated. We are the size of 50 countries. It takes days to cross from the Eastern United States to the Western United States. We have 350 million people. I don't understand why we don't just deal with ourselves. We'd be better off and safer.
The Paris Treaty sucks balls. All of the European contracts are about social control by a one world government. We don't want it. Why do you? Are you not smart? This is the same group that thinks Islam is a "religion of peace". We don't want anyone who hasn't read the Quran dictating public policy per Islam because the Quran says to slaughter every last one of us.
As a selectionist, I'm not against a species wanting to destroy its habitat.
But that's not something a colony of immigrants should get to decide with its 4% share of population, a country based on the fear of communism and that its people believe to be founded on denominations of an irrational religion.
How can Trump kill a system of government in our country that doesn't exist? Last I checked, we're a Constitutional Republic with minor Democratic leanings (the presidential election system, for example).
What kind of fool keeps spewing such utter garbage as the Idiot Leftists? Tell me how trump is killing Democracy you deceptive extremist.
Obama and the Left were the ones CONSTANTLY filling the courts with traitors who legislate from the bench rather than interpreting the law.
Obama allowed top security documents to be on a private server. We know this because Obama sent emails to Clinton on her server.
If there every should have been a resistance, it should have been against Obama, with the IRS scandal, Fast and furious, Benghazi, private server, Obamacare forcing all Americans to buy his pathetic socialized healthcare, etc.
The excon took an oath 57 years ago so how old does that make you now excon because you said you you joined the armed services at 17. 57 plus 17 makes you 74 is that right.
The "resistence" are a globalist owned media, Hollywood, and fraternity of billionaires. Liberals are helping these punks put the shock collers around their own knecks.
Democracy is more than a political system, it is an idea. President Donald Trump cannot kill an idea. If you are meaning American democracy, as in the democratic system that the United States uses then you are giving Trump a lot of credit. Disabling an entire governmental system? He can't even apply a spray tan correctly. Donald Trump may be an idiot in most situations but he is no monster. For that you need only look to Bashar Al Assad...