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He's done NOTHING but give the rich a tax cut which they didn't need..
You are conjecturing based on the idea that corporations getting tax relief does not result in bonuses, raises, and hiring, all of which end in more tax revenue than if you overtaxed the corporation and they left the country or state.
It's true, if that woulda happened.. But, it didn't.. Corporations used that money to buyback their stock.
Some corporations did that in part, and many did what I described. They also did not flee the country from overtaxation. You are using "throw the baby out with the bathwater" logic. If some companies buy their own stock, that doesn't mean it didn't work, and it does mean that those companies had incentive to stay in the U.S.
Tracking the rich has become a voyeuristic global industry, a form of celebrity worship. But it can also provide serious clues about where countries are headed.
When a country begins to fall into economic and political difficulty, wealthy people are often the first to ship their money to safer havens abroad. The rich don’t always emigrate along with their money, but when they do, it is an even more telling sign of trouble.
Your policies would leave you with less corporations to tax, less wealth to tax, and less employed people to tax. The problem with your model is that eventually there is no one left to tax but a bunch of people in poverty because no wealth or jobs remain.
Your policies would leave you with less corporations to tax, less wealth to tax, and less employed people to tax.
Hello Levin:
Yeah.. I remember Bill O'Reilly saying that if he were taxed MORE, he'd LEAVE the country. Yeah, right..
Even IF you couldn't make BILLIONS and BILLIONS of $$'s, this great country of ours is STILL the best.. Where would all these billionaire ex pats go, anyway?
They could officially live elsewhere while physically remaining here. There are many ways to get around your example, and many rich Americans have left to live elsewhere. Also, many business owners in the US came from foreign countries, so moving back wouldn't be psychologically difficult.
There are many ways to get around your example, and many rich Americans have left to live elsewhere.
Hello again, Levin:
What you say is true.. IF the money grubbing doctors wanna leave the profession, I say good riddance. I'd MUCH rather be treated by a doctor who has MY well being at heart, instead of HIS bank account..
I'd MUCH rather be treated by a doctor who has MY well being at heart, instead of HIS bank account..
Many of the best doctors are natives and foreigners who were drawn here by the financial rewards. You'd end up with a doctor who cares for you emotionally, but is overworked, exhausted, and not the best doctor. You'd just die if it was something serious. So would everyone else.
So you agree with Trump and the right's vision of America over the left's.
It's the best because there are so many companies to work for and avenues to achieve moderate to high success financially. Your system would erase that. Without the rich, there are no corporations and companies. Without corporations and companies, there are no jobs. Without jobs, we are left with poverty. If we are left with poverty that cannot be escaped, America ceases to be the best.
Creating large quantities of jobs makes a person mind blowingly rich. It also creates more wealth to tax, and more people with jobs to tax. There is a maximum curve as to what you can do to a massively rich person before they have no incentive to invent products, stay, create jobs, or hire people. If you tax them out of prosperity, only bad things follow for your community or country.
Your logic attempts to replace millions of wealthy people constrained by the law, law enforcement and the military, with one entity that can choose to not be constrained by laws, law enforcement, and/or the military.
Lemme be clear.. Under MY medicare for all plan, doctors will still be VERY prosperous - just not OBSCENELY prosperous..
Which will enhance the mass migration from the profession. There will be no one qualified left to treat all of the people with "medicare for all".
Also, the left glorifies celebrities and actors who make way more than doctors. Celebrity and sports has made many minorities obscenely wealthy. Your strategy would strip them of much of their wealth because their bosses couldn't afford to pay them in this manner.
Taxes having to be raised constantly to pay for more and more foreigners' medical care.
Hello again, Levin:
Nahh. Fact is, we already spend enough to pay for my plan. All we need to do is shuffle around some stuff, and we'll have enough money cover EVERYBODY for EVERYTHING, with money left over for an aircraft carrier or two..
And, we won't have to raise a nickel in new taxes..
Lemme ask you this.. If a foreigner is NOW in the US, do you think he goes WITHOUT healthcare?? You KNOW he gets treatment in the ER, which we ALREADY pay for..
This a logical fallacy because you have no way to predict how many foreigners would flood the system if it covers them.
Hello again, Levin:
Nahhh.. Are these foreigners you're talking about already HERE?? If not, doncha think the wall will stop 'em? IF not, what the hell did we build the damn thing for??
So, let's assume the foreigners you're talking about are ALREADY here.. Do you think they go WITHOUT healthcare?? Of course, you don't. That would be stupid. You KNOW they get treatment at the ER which is the MOST expensive health care we've got.
Lemme ask you this.. If a foreigner is NOW in the US, do you think he goes WITHOUT healthcare?? You KNOW he gets treatment in the ER, which we ALREADY pay for..
First, that proves we are spending money on illegal aliens that could be divided amongst those in poverty who are here legally.
Second, once they know they can get in line and get prescriptions, the system would be overrun.
once they know they can get in line and get prescriptions, the system would be overrun
Hello again, Levin:
You DO know, or SHOULD know, that today, ANY foreigner in this country can present himself at the ER and GET treatment, and GET prescriptions written.. And, you somehow think they DON'T know about this???
Nahh. Fact is, we already spend enough to pay for my plan.
Whatever "your plan" is, it isn't what the Democrats are proposing. Their "plan" gives us trillions of dollars added on top of the current deficit spending per year. We're already in the red.
Whatever "your plan" is, it isn't what the Democrats are proposing.
Hello again, Levin:
I have referred to it as MY plan - NOT the Democrats plan. I have NO idea what they're proposing.. I'm just telling you that MY plan would work, and we'd have money left over to buy an aircraft carrier or two..
How many products that make life better today would have never been created if not for the ability to create massive wealth to fund the research and draw the best creative minds in the world behind them?
If billionaires were suddenly stripped of obscene wealth tomorrow, there would still be 350 million Americans, less jobs, less ability to pay wages, product invention would halt, and no one outside of that billionaire would get any richer. They'd be unemployed or their wages would be cut. Your strategy would make everyone poorer.
If the general quality of the individual's life is good, another person's wealth doesn't matter. Their wealth vanishing won't make them richer. It will simply strip them of their decent quality life they have now.
How many products that make life better today would have never been created if not for the ability to create massive wealth
Hello again, Levin:
Again, you misunderstand me. I'm a capitalist.. I like making money.. And, if the medical profession didn't RIP us OFF in their quest for riches, I'd NEVER complain.. But, they do, and it's at the EXPENSE of Mr and Mrs America..
It didn't used to be that way.. But, it's that way now.
Again, you misunderstand me. I'm a capitalist.. I like making money.. And, if the medical profession didn't RIP us OFF in their quest for riches, I'd NEVER complain.. But, they do, and it's at the EXPENSE of Mr and Mrs America..
Having no doctors would be a much bigger expense, and if your doctor is junk, you can look elsewhere. Socialized healthcare systems do not allow you choice of doctor. You'd be stuck if your doctor was incompetant.
It didn't used to be that way.. But, it's that way now.
Trump passed legislation for price transparency. Democrats could have done it for decades. They didn't.
Then I would love to know which Democrat you plan on voting for for President.
Hello again, Levin:
I'm gonna vote for the capitalist Bernie Sanders..
What? You don't think he's a capitalist?? Dude! He MAKES his living selling books in the free market.. He OWNS waterfront property.. And, he FLIES around the country on private jets..
Dude! He MAKES his living selling books in the free market.. He OWNS waterfront property.. And, he FLIES around the country on private jets..
That would simply make him a liar and a hypocrite concerning climate and wealth. Possibly even a full blown political fraud who is somewhat telling the truth and will fiscally destroy the country or a full blown fraud who has no intention of delivering on the promises he has claimed.
Looks like a capitalist to me..
Looks like a guy who can swap political positions as needed just like most politicians.
No matter what he calls himself, he's a capitalist..
Even Communists who plan on controlling a nation via Communism like wealth and the power it yields. Power is why a Communist is a Communist in the first place. With Communism he would wield much more power than his $2.5 million in current worth can afford him.
Even Communists who plan on controlling a nation via Communism like wealth and the power it yields.
That's like saying we should legalise rape because even nice men like it. Your rhetoric is poison, you idolise the worst qualities of humanity and you are generally an extremely toxic person.
What is this we have here? Hey look, it's a grown man who can't make any money, thus he wants Daddy the state to support his broke ass. Bwahahahahahahahaha!
Psssst... Come here Nom. If you go into the bathroom, there's a mirror in there. Go take a peak. Oh, and you have no friends according to yourself. We both know why, eh Nom?
Psssst... Come here Nom. If you go into the bathroom, there's a mirror in there.
Ah, the old, "I know you are, you said you are, but what am I?". I have to tell you that regurgitating lines from the infant school playground doesn't really help your case if you are trying to convince people that you have the brainpower of an adult.
Trump's going to win in a landslide and it has you butthurt doesn't it Nom? You can say yes. Go ahead. Admit that you will be pissed for four to five more years. That's the first step. Scream at the sky buddy. Scream at the sky. It probably can hear you...
You claimed to have moved to the desert and are now a Cardinals fan. That means you live in Arizona. You can't vote in a state you have no residence in.
To me, in my world, snitching is absolutely the worst possible offense you can commit against another human being.. What's clear here, is that right wing fucks like you are NOT human..
Letting confused men participate in relieving themselves next to 7 year old girls
Claiming to be Native to get free college, claiming to have been oppressed for being Native, and then a dna test proving you literally are not Native at all.
Taking money after your Presidency from the very banks you bailed out in 2008.
Using federal student loan relief to get votes, when you are the ones that gave out the federal loans in the first place.
Claiming Trump supporters beat you up for being gay and black when they didn't.
Bragging about twisting Trump's arm to pass a $1.3 trillion dollar omnibus bill via threatening to withhold military and veteran's spending, then blaming Trump for the Obama level deficits.
Deporting more illegals than Trump, then demonizing him for deporting illegals.
Left wing platforms like Youtube and Facebook censoring anyone that posts views that don't conform to far left wing ideology.
Demonizing millionaires, then later saying, if you write a best selling book, you can be a millionaire too, all after you mass bought your own book with half a million dollars of campaign contributions.
Not changing the debate participation rules for minorities in the Presidential primaries, then changing them for Bloomberg once he gave the DNC a sizable donation consisting of millions of dollars.
Claiming to hate Donald Trump for x,y, and z, and then supporting Bloomberg who is x,y, and z on steroids.
Defending Bill Clinton's sex life, then demonizing Donald Trump's sex life.
Demonizing Trump's tone, then mass producing pictures of his decapitated, bloody head, calling his daughter a feckless cunt, and saying we're gonna impeach the mother f*
Calling on your followers to chase people from the other party out of restaurants, dump milk shakes on them, and throw them out of restaurants.
Using violence to shut down speeches by anyone who doesn't agree with your political leanings.
Advocating for left wing politics while moving to right wing areas of the country to escape left wing politics.
Slandering a child and calling him a racist for smiling at an adult who was yelling at the child with a finger in his face.
Illegalizing straws.
Blocking the CIA from targeting Hezbollah.
Ousting Ghadaffi and Mobarak, just for their countries to end up overrun by armies of ISIS militants and genociding, raping, and destroying anything and anyone in their path.
Saying your son supports Trump, then trashing Trump supporters.
Claiming racism is everywhere, then feeling the need to stage racist events to prove that it is everywhere because it won't manifest organically.
Calling all people of a certain party deplorable, ireedeemable, racist, sexist, mysoginists.
Trashing Christianity, then every 4 years, pandering to minorities for votes, who are overwhelmingly Christian.
Rooting for the Coronavirus to kill some people and destroy the economy praying you can win a Presidential election.
Controlling Hollywood, the media, and academia, then claiming Republicans are the oppressive patriarchy that needs rebelled against.
Claiming to be for free speech, then cheering when anyone right of Lennin gets banned or censored on youtube or social media.
The media calling anyone who warned about the Coronavirus weeks ago a conspiracy theorist, and now going into mass hysteria over the Coronavirus.
Shadow banning and demonetizing anyone on youtube who mentioned the Coronavirus.
Partial birth abortions, where you pull a 9 month old baby all the way out of the mother except for the head, puncture the back of the babie's neck up into it's brain, as the baby screams for mercy as it's brains are sucked out of it's head through a tube.
Pushing religion out of the schools under the guise of seperation of church and state, just to turn around and indoctrinate the kids with leftist ideology which acts as a religion, and firing anyone who doesn't conform to the brainwashing curriculum.
Claiming Trump is a Nazi, then demanding the state take our guns while someone you believe is a Nazi is in power.
Giving Hillary Clinton the debate questions before the debates, while not providing them to anyone else.
Claiming Obama's economy is trash through your emails, then going on CNN every week and telling us how great Obama's economy is, and that we're racists for attacking it.
Claiming right wingers are Fascists while you promote the omnipotent state, gun grabs, and suppressing speech, while right wingers oppose all three.
Teaching little boys that being male is toxic and that you should feel guilty and step out of everyone else's way because you were born defective.
Saying not immediately accepting the results of the election are a threat to democracy, then not accepting the results of the election for 4 years.
Defending mass murdering dictators because they had good reading programs...
That is horrible. i have had it, with liberals, and I am voting, for President Trump. A vote for the Democratic Party, is a vote against God, and the Christian faith.
Right NOW, it's Obama's economy and it's ROARING along..
The fallacy with this line of thought is Obama's lowest unemployment numbers by the same standard we get Trump's unemployment numbers was 9.3% unemployment. This comes from the fact that the left wing media holds behind it's back the fact that Obama's numbers came from dropping people who gave up looking for work from the unemployment numbers. Trump's numbers do not do that, and are still lower.
The conclusion is that unemployment has dropped 6% during this Presidency if we include those who have given up searching as still being unemployed. That is a dramatic plunge post Obama and not a steady pattern of decline over a decade.
The fallacy with this line of thought is Obama's lowest unemployment numbers by the same standard we get Trump's unemployment numbers was 9.3% unemployment.
Hello again, Levin:
The fallacy of your line of thought, is you IGNORE that Bush BROKE the economy.. He busted it into little bitty pieces, and left Obama to clean up his mess..
True - it DID take a while for the unemployment numbers to turn around - but turn around they did.
I say again, this is OBAMA'S economy and Trump is just a passenger..
The fallacy of your line of thought, is you IGNORE that Bush BROKE the economy.. He busted it into little bitty pieces, and left Obama to clean up his mess..
This doesn't help your argument that this is Obama's economy. It only argues that Obama started off in a worse starting position.
True - it DID take a while for the unemployment numbers to turn around - but turn around they did.
They slowly, and steadily dropped during his second term. It plummeted in Trump's first term. Obama simply got it back to normal, and many argue it was pretty much back to normal when Obama actually became President. Trump pushed it out of the realms of normal.
In terms of electibility, Obama is not on this years' ticket. Trump and a slew of people who aren't Obama are.
As I've said, this is MY plan. Not, surprisingly, lots of people contradict me, including "left wing media".
I asked what things you would move around in "your plan". You didn't respond, so I can't fully know what "your plan" is.
What I can know, is what the Democrats' plan is, and even they claim it will add substantial debt to a deficit that is so far in the red that it's about to go purple.
Ironically, these same Democrats who acknowledge the costs of their plans, condemn the current deficit spending which is less than the spending they propose.
I asked what things you would move around in "your plan". You didn't respond
Hello again, Levin:
If you read between the lines you'd know how I'd shuffle. First off, I'd MAKE a medical degree AFFORDABLE.. Second, I'd put a CAP on salaries, the cost of medical equipment, and pharmaceutical drugs..
Don't Be Fooled, The Obama Unemployment Rate Is 11%
When Barack Obama entered office in January, 2009, the labor force participation rate was 65.7%, meaning nearly two-thirds of working age Americans were working or looking for work.
When the recession supposedly officially ended in June, 2009, the labor force participation rate was still 65.7%.
In the latest, much celebrated, unemployment report, the labor force participation rate had plummeted to 63.7%, the most rapid decline in U.S. history. That means that under President Obama nearly 5 million Americans have fled the workforce in hopeless despair.
The trick is that when those 5 million are not counted as in the work force, they are not counted as unemployed either. They may desperately need and want jobs. They may be in poverty, as many undoubtedly are, with America suffering today more people in poverty than in the entire half century the Census Bureau has been counting poverty. But they are not even counted in that 8.3% unemployment rate that Obama and his media cheerleaders were so tirelessly celebrating last week.
Don't Be Fooled, The Obama Unemployment Rate Is 11%
Hello again, Levin:
The numbers are nearly all in now. During Obama's presidency:
~The economy gained a net 11.6 million jobs. The unemployment rate dropped to below the historical norm.
~Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 4.0 percent after inflation. The gain was 3.7 percent for just production and nonsupervisory employees.
~After-tax corporate profits also set records, as did stock prices. The S&P 500 index rose 166 percent.
~The number of people lacking health insurance dropped by 15 million. Premiums rose, but more slowly than before.
~Home prices rose 20 percent. But the home ownership rate hit the lowest point in half a century.
The numbers are nearly all in now. During Obama's presidency:
~The economy gained a net 11.6 million jobs. The unemployment rate dropped to below the historical norm
That's interesting. CNN, who spins everything as far left as is humanly comprehendable, says you're full of shit. Oddly enough, their numbers seem to be similar to your opponent's and not similar at all to yours...
Socialist that there Right to Vote thang does bother you. But why you Democrats cry Voter Suppression ? You should check with the black female in Georgia.
Obama was a despicable human being. Who bails out banks, demonizes them, then takes a million dollars from them for speaking fees after their Presidency?
Who blocks the CIA from targeting Hezbollah?
Who creates cages, then blames them on the next President?
You don't agree with America first, that the American voter should be the first priority?
You don't agree with addressing trade imbalances, like with China, for example? They've cheated and stole since day one; you think they should not be called on it?
You don't agree with NATO pulling their weight and paying their way?
You don't agree with sensible immigration; you want open borders and having people crash our social welfare system?
You're showing your anti-American sentiments the left is famous for.
You don't agree with America first, that the American voter should be the first priority?
"America First" does not refer to the American voter, it refers to the American establishment. The voter being the first priority is called democracy, and the establishment only wants to give you the illusion of democracy so they can tell you what to vote for then convince you that you are the one making the decision.
The voter being the first priority is called democracy
Democracy is the voter not being the first priority due to the fact you can import more voters if you don't get your way at the voting booth. Democracy simply means I gather a bigger mob than your mob to rule you with.
"America First" does not refer to the American voter, it refers to the American establishment
Actually the American establishment opposes Trump. That's why the media, academia, the Democratic Party, and part of the Republican Party attack him daily.