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When is a R-A-C-I-S-T not a racist?

 Let anyone dare express any political view which is not extreme-loony leftist/woke and they will be accused of being a Nazi, a Hilterite, Mussolini and/or a R-A-C-I-S-T/ WHITE SUPREMACIST.

Hello:

I truly need some learning...  That's why this isn't a for or against debate..  It's a learning debate.  I'm not gonna mention names, and it's not about him anyway.  It's about our nation.

So, there's a thought out there that black people should be denigrated because of their fat lips and splayed nostrils..  They should be referred to as bongos.. The thought continues wherein white people invented everything of value, and black people invented nothing.  Clearly, adherents to this belief think that white people are superior to black people.. 

I don't know what else to call that other that white supremacy..  Yet, when I voice those words, I'm the one accused of being a R-A-C-I-S-T. 

I'm missing something..  Can anybody fill me in?


excon
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When is a R-A-C-I-S-T not a racist?

What Mongele is complaining about is the modern trend of viewing everything through a racial lens. At Yale, a professor was targeted and berated for suggesting Yale students are responsible enough to have tasteful costumes without an outline of racial no-nos. An Evergreen college professor was run out for failing to leave campus when that's what white people were ordered to do. A NY Times columnist was fired for once having talked about the N-word and actually saying the word in the conversation, and another was suspended for suggesting words need to be allowed in discussions about them. The host of the bachelor was fired for saying the same thing a black contestant had said, namely that another contestant deserves some grace rather than assuming the worst about her.

The above examples (just off the top of my head) are of white liberals being attacked as racists when they did nothing to suggest they are actually racist. Mongele complaining about this issue probably doesn't ring true to you because, judging by his own language, he actually is a racist.

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On it's face, the title of this debate is extremely misleading.

But to address the issue here, in order for one to be described as a racist. They must in fact do something that is a "racist" act, or at least give some predefined window into their behavior as being one.

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Unfortunately with how things have been progressing over the last few years. We've seen that no such information has been necessary for that distinction, in a long time. Entire races, or even social groups are defined as being racist, from outside sources. Simply on some ill-defined merit alone. Either something that they said in the past, or something that others believe they may have even said, or done.

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Much like anything else here, if you want to describe someone as being something. You would first need to supply some form of proof, or else it just falls under the notion of being your opinion.

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Just stick to the facts.

Fact; Whites are responsible for most inventions and discoveries which go to make up the modern world.

Fact;- By comparison to whites and Asians blacks have contributed very little to the advancement and welfare of mankind.

Fact;- Blacks want to live in countries which are governed and inhabited primarily by whites, the reason being that parasites like their hosts to be healthy, tolerant and magnanimous.

Fact;- In times of natural or man-made disasters the begging bowls of many black countries point towards the white nations of the west.

Fact;-Black's aversion to formal education results in large numbers of them being unable to secure senior or executive positions.

Fact;- The blacks find it convenient to blame their dismal academic and career achievements on the big bad white man.

Fact;- Black's strong dislike for hard physical or mental work has resulted in a dearth of job creating black corporations and thriving black countries such as Germany or Israel.

FACT;;- I'VE NO INTENTION OF LETTING MYSELF BE INTIMIDATED BY THE LOW-LIVES WHO BELLOW RACIST at anyone who dares to state the TRUTH.

ONLY A RACIST WOULD ACCUSE SOMEONE OF RACISM OR WHITE SUPREMACY FOR STATING THE TRUTH.

Now my dear little pot smoking, ex-convict, you tell me how anyone can be a racist by quoting the undeniable truth?

Since when has the truth been deemed as racist?

As a black Jew you may find the facts/truth to be uncomfortable but nevertheless your discomfort doesn't diminish the TRUTH.

Feel free to quote all the inventions and discoveries of blacks and I'll be the first to applaud their genius.

I PROMISE NOT TO CRY R-A-Y-C-I-S-T JUST BECAUSE THEY LISTED THEIR OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENTS AND THEIR POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE WELL-BING OF ALL HUMAN-KIND.

COME ON, I'LL BE GENUINELY DELIGHTED IF AND WHEN YOU DO.

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Fact; Whites are responsible for most inventions and discoveries which go to make up the modern world.

Listen up, you worthless white trash moron...

Science originated in Ancient Greece. It eventually spread all over Europe and the near east where most people are/were fair skinned.

From science came agriculture, record keeping and the use of beasts.

Vast numbers of Europeans died from beast-born diseases until eventually they built up herd immunity to them.

Later, when Europeans began the process of colonisation, they killed off huge numbers of indigenous peoples who were not immune to these beast-born diseases.

And it's that simple. That is the reason why white people dominate today's planet. Europeans found science first, and had thousands of years to build up immunity to various beast-born diseases, which they then spread around the globe during the long period where they were raping and pillaging it.

Black people (who of course also live in predominantly white societies) have invented plenty of things used in the modern world, including traffic lights, ironing boards and the first IBM colour monitor.

Mongele(486) Disputed
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There you go again, as predictable as a black man's failure, you fucking toe-rag.

You just cannot resist taking the bait.

It's worthless, useless fucks like you and your whore ma who translate everything into racism.

You just have to try to move your guilt for you laziness and inadequacies to R-A-Y-C-I-S-M.

Useless layabout cunts like you thrive on trying to construe the PLAIN TRUTH into R-A-Y-C-I-S-M..Fortunately most people by now have identified you lot of phonies for the useless fucks you really are and how you leech on the societies in which you live.

I'll bet a lazy, supercilious fuck like you has never worked a day in his worthless life and you scrounge off the state.

The biggest belly-aching shit-bags are always the greatest failures.

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW YOU SHITTY ASSED FUCK, WHEN DID YOU START THINKING THAT TELLING THE TRUTH WAS R-A-Y-C-I-S-T?

STILL DON'T BOTHER, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR BULLSHIT FOR ONE NIGHT.

NOW, GET OFF THE SITE, GO ON, FUCK OFF.

Amarel(5470) Disputed
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Individuals and their collaborators are responsible for the things each of them do. Ben Franklin's pigmentation didn't assist his brilliance. Nor was Frederick Douglas's brilliance compromised by his pigmentation. "The Blacks" and "The Whites" are not goal directed groups. They aren't collaborators. They aren't unified by anything but a somewhat arbitrary classification. As such, no praise or condemnation can be attributed to them. The kind of race based pride and accusation you engage in is most common among people who lack personal attributes for which to be proud.

You want to pretend that black people have these negative inherent qualities, but individualism undermines your collectivist view. If "the blacks" were education averse, we wouldn't have Sowell, Obama, Du Bois, etc. If "the blacks" were lazy then we wouldn't have professional athletics that are predominantly black.

Before you go bitching about poor countries surviving off white wealth in case of disaster, why don't you look to your own national defense. Is it your own country ensuring its own security? No? Parasite.

As for "the blacks" in America. The various aspects of black american culture that tend to lead to disproportionate negative impacts on the demographic are often cultural traits shared by (and sometimes derived from) white cultural sub groups who also find themselves mired in poverty. Poor Scot-Irish hillbillies contributed no small part of their culture to black slaves and farm hands they worked side by side with for generations in the south. The so-called ebonics of inner city chicago has more in common with incomprehensible southern crackers than it does with any tribe of Africa.

excon(14904) Disputed
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Amarel(5470) Clarified
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As a black Jew you may find the facts/truth to be uncomfortable

Look at that! You're Jewish again!