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Where would the DOW be at if Hillary were President?

"I'm not going to put my lot in with economists."
-Hillary Clinton

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Where would the DOW be at if Hillary were President?

Hello DP:

Ohhh, I'd speculate it would be around 29,000.. What? She LOVES Wall Street even MORE than Trump. She'da given them BIGGER goodies than Trump did..

That's WHY she lost.

excon

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DarthPrime(37) Disputed
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What do bribes have to do with consumer confidence in the market and consumer supply and demand?

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Nothing. CNN probably put out their Alinskyite hit piece for the day. 25,000 DOW? That's awful!

Bronto: why?

CNN: you're a racist.

Bronto: I'm brown.

CNN: you're a Nazi.

Bronto: I support the Jews and Israel.

CNN: but you go to church and like record high DOWs that suck!

Bronto: off ya go clown.

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Hobbes(54) Disputed
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During the debates, she planned on using Obama's model. It consistently landed us at 15,000-16,000.

https://www.heritage.org/jobs-and-labor/commentary/hillary-clintons-anti-business-rhetoric- shows-her-radical-roots

Hillary Clinton is getting deservedly attacked for her imbecilic statement at a Democratic political gathering in Massachusetts on Friday about business and jobs.

"Don't let anybody tell you that, ah, you know, it's corporations and businesses that create jobs," she preached, to loud applause. "You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly."

It may not be too surprising that Hillary can't connect the dots that it takes an employer to create an employee to create wages and salaries.

That's how some 150 million Americans get paid every week. Ms. Clinton has made her millions in the cattle futures market, as a government employee and giving speeches for fees of $250,000 a pop. Nice work if you can get it. The rest of us mere mortals need a paycheck.

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excon(18261) Disputed
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During the debates, she planned on using Obama's model. It consistently landed us at 15,000-16,000.

Hello H:

The debate asked me to speculate. I speculated. So did you..

excon

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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The RESIDENT LIAR speaks up again and the DUMB ASS cannot help it's self LMMFAO!!!!

DUMMY put the key word in this insane response !!!!!!

Hello DP:

Ohhh, I'd speculate it would be around 29,000.. What? She LOVES Wall Street even MORE than Trump. She'da(?)(What DOES She'da mean?) given them BIGGER goodies than Trump did..

That's WHY she lost.

excon

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About 12,345.76. She was and is an idiot who knows nothing about economics. I know because I've listened to her speak on economics. She looks like a toddler at the mic.

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excon(18261) Disputed
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She was and is an idiot who knows nothing about economics

Hello again, TM:

Oh, I agree with you there.. But, Trump knows NOTHING about economics either. Look... If you owe the bank a couple hundred thousand, THEY own you.. If you owe the bank a couple million, YOU own them..

That's NOT economics.. That's school yard bullying..

excon

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But, Trump knows NOTHING about economics either.

Right. That's why all of the other millionaires are now billionaires. Oh wait...

Look... If you owe the bank a couple hundred thousand, THEY own you.. If you owe the bank a couple million, YOU own them..

So Trump owns a hell of a lot of banks. Awesome. Point?

That's NOT economics.. That's school yard bullying..

Winning at economics is economics. We both know that if Obama had this same exact hand of cards, he'd be on the cover of every magazine from here to Pluto wearing a crown.

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jamesbody(80) Disputed
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By Democrats.

Ahahahahaha! Shut up you deranged, mentally ill Nazi retard. The accusations date back to the late 1970s.

At least 22 women have accused President Donald Trump of sexual misconduct between the 1970s and 2013.

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Ahahahahaha! Shut up you deranged, mentally ill Nazi retard. The accusations date back to the late 1970s.

At least 22 women have accused President Donald Trump of sexual misconduct between the 1970s and 2013.

False legal claims are normal for most rich people. So show me some convictions. I'll wait.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4497589/millionaire-problems

Stormy Daniel's lawyer literally was doing interviews about running for President as a Democrat...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/18/politics/avenatti-president-campaign-decision/index.html

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jamesbody(80) Disputed
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She was and is an idiot who knows nothing about economics.

Right Bronto, you retarded shill imbecile. Shall we take economics lessons from the crook who filed for bankruptcy four times and gave America its worst year for stocks in the last decade?

Even as Trump's inner circle has been arrested, one by one, you have continued to come here every day and launch attacks against a woman who isn't even involved in politics any more.

You're a retarded little twit mate. Facts.

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Right Bronto, you retarded shill imbecile. Shall we take economics lessons from the crook who filed for bankruptcy four times

Don't understand economics or business a lick, eh Nom?

and gave America its worst year for stocks in the last decade?

Actually, it's the record best. He has the "biggest drop" from the record he set to yet another old record....he set...

Dumb as a rock, eh Nom?

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Even as Trump's inner circle has been arrested, one by one

Many being Democrats, many having just entered Trump's circle, and none having to do with Russian collusion.

you have continued to come here every day and launch attacks against a woman who isn't even involved in politics any more.

She did a political speech just the other day and does a political tour around the country with her husband.

https://www.vividseats.com/theatre/bill-clinton-tickets.html

Second, as if her theoretically "having nothing to do with politics" today would mean she didn't create Russia collusion then...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/01/17/libel-suit-fusion-gps-dossier-1106984

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/14/hillary-clinton-glenn-simpson-anti-trump-conspirac/

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Actually, less than this. She's all about regulation, taking bribes via her foundation, hiding and deleting emails and lying habitually; none of which is economic friendly.

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I'd guess around 21/23, BUT, the debt would be lower, the cost of living would be stable OR falling, we'd be getting more back from our income tax, rather than PAYING MORE. Oh, and the rich would be paying a LOT more. We wouldn't, likely, be in a trade war with China … which IS putting money into the treasury, but, it's money out of OUR pockets, not China's.

Putin would still be a struggling dictator with few friends. NATO would be stronger (and still our friends). The ACA would be stronger and people would have more affordable health insurance, SS and Medicare would be stronger and we would have MUCH fewer than 8000+ lies coming out of the White House.

I've heard a lot of talk about how great this economy is … even the GREATEST in our history!

NAH! Back when I was making $4/hr. as an aerospace machinist, I had terrific health insurance, I could spend $20 at the grocery store and have to take my bags out in a carriage. I could put some in the Credit Union every week, afford to take a vacation (though I rarely did). THAT was a better economy than we have now! Ike was President, the rich were getting richer, but, paying more taxes. The USA was growing by leaps and bounds, the Interstate was being built, infrastructure was booming! Unions had the workers backs! THAT'S a "GREAT ECONOMY"! NOT what we have NOW!

By the way. I worked with a guy then that had worked for that same company since 1914. He showed me his first pay stub. $6.50 for 65 hrs. The economy was better THEN than NOW!

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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What 12 car pile up has your mind come up with today CRAZY AL ?????

You are among the ranks of MENTALLY INSANE SOCIALIST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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When NANNY and CHUCKY shutdown the government again AL you will have some more to COMPLAIN about !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'd guess around 21/23

I'd guess around 15,000.

BUT, the debt would be lower

It would? She wouldn't have passed Schumer and Pelosi's omnibous bill? Keep living the dream Al. Keep living the dream.

the cost of living would be stable OR falling

Gas is cheaper post Trump. Drug prices are cheaper post Trump.

we'd be getting more back from our income tax rather than PAYING MORE

We are paying less in taxes post Trump.

Oh, and the rich would be paying a LOT more.

That's how you run companies out of the U.S., ending in less tax revenue, but continue.

We wouldn't, likely, be in a trade war with China …

So continue to let China cheat and slowly grind our economy into powder. Awesome sauce... Chinagate? Nah, wouldn't happen twice...

which IS putting money into the treasury, but, it's money out of OUR pockets, not China's.

China is realing, and if they never real, we lose and go bankrupt. Ignoring them is why we're in the pickle we're in in the first place.

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Putin would still be a struggling dictator with few friends.

Hillary literally gave the Russians large quantities of rare U.S. weapons grade uranium. Bill literally did a speech for $500,000 in Moscow.

NATO would be stronger (and still our friends).

And we'd still be paying their share, slowly going bankrupt. Continue.

The ACA would be stronger and people would have more affordable health insurance, SS and Medicare would be stronger

Obamacare literally caused millions with insurance to not see doctors because of deductables that were unaffordable. It literally was the same as more people being uninsured. Unusable insurance is the equal of no insurance.

and we would have MUCH fewer than 8000+ lies coming out of the White House.

That's a laugh. You do know who sniper fire girl is, correct? She was literally fired for being...a pathological liar.

QUOTE:

The viral email is mainly derived from a column published on March 31, 2008, by Dan Calabrese, founder of North Star Writers Group, according to fact-finder TruthOrFiction.com. North Star was a newspaper syndicate that provided services until early 2012.

Calabrese's information came from Democrat Jerry Zeifman, a counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Clinton on the Watergate investigation. Zeifman's 2006 book, "Hillary's Pursuit of Power," states that she "... engaged in a variety of self-serving unethical practices in violation of House rules."

On his now-shuttered website, Zeifman said, "Hillary Clinton is ethically unfit to be either a senator or president - and if she were to become president, the last vestiges of the traditional moral authority of the party of Roosevelt, Truman and Johnson will be destroyed."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.savannahnow.com/article/20151221/NEWS/312219815?template=ampart

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jamesbody(80) Disputed
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Hillary literally gave the Russians large quantities of rare U.S. weapons grade uranium. Bill literally did a speech for $500,000 in Moscow.

You hilarious shill. Trump "literally" has been accused of sexual assault by thirty different women and one twelve year old girl.

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AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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Every word of that has been debunked. Don't you have any facts that didn't come from the "cons talking points list"!

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I've heard a lot of talk about how great this economy is … even the GREATEST in our history!

Definitely in recent history.

NAH! Back when I was making $4/hr. as an aerospace machinist, I had terrific health insurance, I could spend $20 at the grocery store and have to take my bags out in a carriage. I could put some in the Credit Union every week, afford to take a vacation (though I rarely did). THAT was a better economy than we have now! Ike was President, the rich were getting richer, but, paying more taxes.

A Republican 65 years ago. Cool...

The USA was growing by leaps and bounds, the Interstate was being built, infrastructure was booming! Unions had the workers backs! THAT'S a "GREAT ECONOMY"! NOT what we have NOW!

Cool. So you want a military leader Republican in power. Not very lib of you. Don't tell the white pant suit mob.

By the way. I worked with a guy then that had worked for that same company since 1914. He showed me his first pay stub. $6.50 for 65 hrs. The economy was better THEN than NOW!

It hasn't been better in anyone not 80 years old's lifetime. Oranges to oranges Al. You've presented us an argument based on the presentism fallacy.

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