Which Bible Story is the Most Loathsome?
It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said Thou shall not kill. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses(Joshua 6). In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.
Wow. Just...Wow. As I've said before, "Yahweh: what a douche!"
**So....you decide! Which of these little gems is the most loathsome?**
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Good question so many to pick from isn't there ? Well for me the Christian god has to go down as one of the most immoral fictional characters ever dreamed up , I've read your figures for his killing sprees and yes I've read before the low estimate for his death rate is 1. 3 million ( not including injured and maimed ) by the way that's a low estimate :) Satan killed 10 and that's because god bet he wouldn't do it ... and he's the bad guy :) you really have to be stoned , barking mad or indoctrinated to believe this horseshit . Did you know God enjoys aborting babies when he gets upset .... “Give them, O LORD–what will You give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.” (Hosea 9:14) God teaches the use of a bizarre ritual using cursed “bitter water” to abort a fetus who was conceived through infidelity. (Numbers 5:11-21) God orders Moses to kill every Midianite woman who was no longer a virgin. (many of these women would obviously have been pregnant) (Numbers 31:15-18) God promises to destroy the infants of Samaria and rip open the stomachs of pregnant women. The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea 13:16) God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah to be ripped open. At that time Menahem, starting out from Tirzah, attacked Tiphsah and everyone in the city and its vicinity, because they refused to open their gates. He sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant women. (2 Kings 15:16) God commands the killing of infants and nursing babies. Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey. (1 Samuel 15:3) God repays your enemies by destroying their babies. Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us. He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. (Psalms 137:8-9) You can just imagine the righteous god fearing fuck heads applauding and cheering as god merrily enjoys the proceedings , what's truly frightening is that Christians adore this monstrous fiction . To be a Christian all one has to do is believe in a fucked up tall tale because you never sit down and think about the horseshit you accept as fact , here is a brief synopsis in case any Christian who can actually reason happens to drop in :) Once upon a time in a magical garden a man and a woman saw a tree with magnificent magical apples on it , the woman was looking at the lush fruit when all of a sudden a talking snake told her to help herself as the apples were delicious .... She grabbed an apple and took a bite little realising that god ( lives in the sky made the world ) was extremely angry at this outrage . He was so angry he came down to earth by impregnating himself with himself so he could be born again , so that he could die on a cross for our sins before we have committed any , so that we can all die and thank him every day for dying on a piece of wood because a woman ate an apple ..... I was caught stealing apples as a child and the man laughed and said ' fuck off and rob someone else's apples ' maybe his wife wouldn't let him impregnate virgins ... I believe that are pretty rare nowadays :) You are so UN-Knowledgable! Its sad! Most people who know nothing at least know their limitations. But your apparently are a scholar with misquotes out of context. And honestly stop before you hurt yourself. You seem like an illiterate fool. At least read before you post the crap you blindly take in. I get there are Christians that dont know enough of the Bible to correct you. But Im not one of them. And your still not worth my time! Faith should be convinced - and we are the body of Christ. We together make His body with Christ as the Head. Jesus will not come again in fallen flesh. He has already overcome flesh and death. And has already ascended to the Father. He will come again in glory with His people. The one who builds on false inaccuracies has built a house like the one in the parable of the wise builder vs the foolish builder building a house. One builds a foundation based on false information, making it no good at its very foundation. Building on it is not good because it's already built on inaccuracies, so then the outcome is a foolishly built house that collapses with winds of doctrine and trials. False, because it lacks credibility at its foundation. And there is no witness of truth by the Spirit and Word. Which always agree without contradiction. Truth doesn't contradict His Word. The Holy Spirit doesn't contradict His Word. These are witnesses to each other. And in a court of law held by the just judge of all, only confirmed facts would be found truthful testimony by their witness of each other. Then it comes down to choosing to accept lies or investigate. If you don't investigate, then how can you be an authority on its credibility as truth or myth and discern falsehood? God wouldn't be a fair judicial judge if He hid the evidence and displayed unconfirmed testimony. Your testimony if from God would be confirmed by Him. Just as He confirmed who Jesus was then. If He does not bear witness, then the testimony is false. The Word Spirit and Father are a cord of three strands that cant be broken. A kingdom divided can't stand. Its not the work of God to deceive, His light reveals. He is judicial. In His courtroom He provides abundant evidence and testimony and witness. The truth is confirmed always! Witness confirming every fact. I can that look at facts when discussing evolution, on which you have a credible degree of facts at the core of your foundation. So then I ask in your facts of evolution can we find a Divine Intruder? Whereas you dismiss facts of a Book based on unfactual and falsified information, and there isn't even a discussion to have beyond that because at the core foundation you accept false information, so when discussing your objection to the Divine Intruder in the study of History, your mythological falsified facts won' t allow a basic foundation of facts at minimum to build on. So how credible is the facts you conclude against the Bible? a stance in opposition to the faith of others. Since your foundation of facts is piled up in inaccuracies and truely "myths" since they are based on untruths, isn't that what myths are? So isn't it ironic to build a case on inaccuracies, then use inaccuracies to conclude a lack of credibilty, by which concluding what is myth? The outcome of conclusion should at minimum be factual with accuracies to hold up at least it's foundation, especially if dismissing basic credibility of what faith is built on in the first place. Skeptic scrutiny is not credible if you are blindly or conveniently accepting inaccuracies to dismiss accuracies, where by doing you dismiss faith by a foundation of inaccuracies. Then let me tell you my experience of faith. Because I am an eyewitness of that. And its real, and I'm convinced. My faith isn't based on a mental acknowledgement of a faith that I hope exists. I have become convinced of faith by both reason and experience. And in understanding I see clearly, and in my understanding I am convinced. I would think it silly to deny your way in the world based on Hell or judgement, especially if you are NOT convinced of God, or if Hell or Heaven exists. That's like saying Buy a wedding dress, rent the hall, and pay the caterer, even though you don't have a Bride, or Groom, or engagement, or even dating someone yet! Jesus said count the cost! He actually wants us to be convinced of our decision to follow Him, and He wants us to go in to this relationship with Him, knowing we can pay the cost, knowing its worth it, and willing to pay the cost. And no one does that unless their convinced. So Jesus says, I want you to be convinced, because your commitment to Me needs to be on solid ground! - wise man builds a house compared to the idiot that builds a house - both go through the storm, idiots house falls, the one who is solid is convinced and holds up through the storms. The Rich Young Ruler WANTED to follow Jesus, He even agreed with His commandments! But Jesus says, cool you are almost there, one more thing .... the Rich Young Ruler wouldn't have worked out well, at least not making that commitment on that day, why? Jesus didn't run after him and when the disciples were like Hey Jesus, this is bad for the saving business, no one will be saved if you keep that up! He taught them then, what is needed to make a child of Light, where your heart is, there is your treasure. And He said people need to understand the cost, for some the cost may be someone, to others something, whatever you love He knows the heart ... Abraham loved Isaac, yet by his famous test, God said, do you love your Son more than Me? And Abraham, you can imagine how distraught the scene was, and Abraham's grief leading up to that moment, God says pass! He counted the cost and was willing to pay every last penny he had serving God. Was he convinced? Or was his faith a guess? So I never said this argument. I said count the cost, and be convinced. I showed you every reason to believe, and I added a very honest believable and relatable set of videos to satisfy your intellect. I showed you God's Word, confirming God's Word. I showed you His character and sensibly showed you why darkness can't stand. And why the world's Woes have grown in the darkness of Satan's seed. And I gave you my experience, which is wonderfully wise when I was a dumb ass 5 year old, 2nd grader, and and a merging rebel. And some other fabulous encounters that were realistic, without over spiritualizing every pee and poop I ever experienced. I think people think faith is a guess. A lucky guess! We HOPE we are right, well that's not good enough! That's actually not what faith is at all. Faith is being CONVINCED of things not seen! Without faith that is CONVINCED, it is impossible to please God! Hebrews 11 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. 2 For by it the men of old gained approval. 3 By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible. ... 6 And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him. Romans 8: 37-39 37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. You say ..... You are so UN-Knowledgable! Its sad! Most people who know nothing at least know their limitations. But your apparently are a scholar with misquotes out of context. And honestly stop before you hurt yourself. You seem like an illiterate fool. At least read before you post the crap you blindly take in. I get there are Christians that dont know enough of the Bible to correct you. But Im not one of them. And your still not worth my time ........ No , the problem is you have no answer do you ? I'm quoting directly from your book you idiot do you get that ? Your book is contradicting your book you idiot . I seem like an illiterate fool ? You seem like a typical judgemental Christian hypocrite well done you :) I won't bother reading the rest of your bat shit crazy rant , you tuly are a prize idiot ..... You have failed miserably in defending ANY of those loathosme verses I posted in my Header. All you did was stray off-topic and add some of your own bible tracts. You lose. You have failed to defend your Faith and its Holy Book. Hell, I could have done a better job at defending some of those horrible verses that you did. Like for example I would have said they were only allegorical, not literal. (which indeed most of the OT is!). By not recognizing the diff between allegory and metaphor and true history, you biblical literalists actually get far LESS out of the bible then do us who know the difference. The foremost experts on the Torah--the first Five books of the OT) are arguably the Orthodox Jewish Rabbis who study the Talmud. DO you even know what the Talmud is? It is commentary and interpretation of the Torah. And these guys, along with Eastern Orthodox scholars, KNOW about allegory, As well as something called midrash. Which I have touched on before. The latter is used in the Gospels, where they take a Torahnic verse and then fit the facts of their story to make it seem as if the Torah was prophesizing the event. Like with Jesus riding into Jerusalem on and ass. Or being born in a manger in Bethlehem. All false, and all meant to simply make their stories seem as if they were prophesized. Midrash, allegory, and symbolism. Without understanding those terms and their usages in your bible, you glean very little. Even though you think you get a lot out of the bible. This is not only deliciously ironic, but sort of sad. You also never said how I am "unknowledgeable" when I post verbatim bible quotes! How can this be? Also how can a person be knowledgeable when he simply posits a question? As I did, when I asked members which verse is the most loathsome? I was asking for opinion, not making a claim. This is a good example of how you people attack and attempt to falsely discredit those who do not abide by your spurious and groundless belief system, as well as your superstitions. SS http:// You: Well for me the Christian god has to go down as one of the most immoral fictional characters ever dreamed up , I've read your figures for his killing sprees and yes I've read before the low estimate for his death rate is 1. 3 million ( not including injured and maimed ) by the way that's a low estimate :) Satan killed 10 and that's because god bet he wouldn't do it ... and he's the bad guy :) you really have to be stoned , barking mad or indoctrinated to believe this horseshit . Did you know God enjoys aborting babies when he gets upset .... “Give them, O LORD–what will You give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.” (Hosea 9:14) . Please dont misunderstand God. God will toss the wicked like a basketball, the whole world and everyone in it will be thrown into the fire and He will save His own, those who call on Him, He will save out of it. And also Israel. We already told you He is a Judge and also a Father. But He is not a Father of the wicked! We were born into a kingdom of wickedness. And not born His children. So we are NOT all His Children. The completion of iniquity is upon us now! Like before Noah . .Only God is Truth And Justice to execute the death sentence by His law! 2 Kings 2:23–24 Embed
23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and amocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he acursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of 1their number. Read More Oh, any of the mass murders just because he feels like it to make a point. http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=21 Hey, conservatives lose their sh!t over the internet memes (already disproven) of the Clintons killing this or that person, but they have no problem with tens of thousands being whacked over an over again in the Bible just because God can. Good point!! Christians are indeed hypocritical when it comes to ignoring the countless cases of atrocities and child-killing done by their malevolent and tyrannical sky god Yahweh. They scream about an unfeeling and brainless fetus being quickly and efficiently terminated, but ignore the fact that Yah Yah has killed millions of innocents. Like the children of the children who for some reason or other pissed him off. Yahweh: what a Douche!! SS Yeah, Yahweh is not only a Douche, but a cowardly and murderous Douche. How 'bout that time when he had a couple dozen children murdered just cuz they made fun of his boy Elijah's bald head and called him "baldy?" LOL...that was pure gold. The Bible is SUCH a good fount of morality, eh? SS 2 Kings 2:23–24 Embed
23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and amocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he acursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of 1their number. Read More Hey!!!! Here's one you might have missed, it's a story of the future when God is going to kill far more people than ever before in a series of horrific events which will seem to you to be much worse than anything you have posted. It's from the book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ, chapter 19:11-21. It's good how God kills all His enemies, take a peek and think about what's coming for you if you insist on being an enemy of God forever. And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Is it not awesome how God will fill the bellies of fowls with the flesh of kings and atheists? Hey!!!! Here's one you might have missed, it's a story of the future when God is going to kill far more people than ever before in a series of horrific events which will seem to you to be much worse than anything you have posted. It's from the book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ, chapter 19:11-21. It's good how God kills all His enemies, take a peek and think about what's coming for you if you insist on being an enemy of God forever. And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Is it not awesome how God will fill the bellies of fowls with the flesh of kings and atheists? 2
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Drowning nearly every man, woman, child, and animal on Earth is pretty loathsome. Anyone who worships a god who drowns his children for being disobedient has no right to criticize anyone's moral standards. Any parent that drowned their child would be considered a monster, but Christians give their god a free pass for doing exactly that. The story is even more ridiculous when you consider the fact that he killed them all for being evil, yet he allowed Satan to live. So I guess Satan isn't that bad of a guy after all, otherwise god would have killed him too. Are you going to say God killed you when your time is over? Are you are child of God? You are not one of God's children, you are a child of Hell and of your father the devil. The works of your father you will do. Keep on loving Satan and see where he gets you. You won't feel good about Satan when you are stuck in the devil's Hell fire. Satan does not live, Satan is on death row, condemned in dying the same as you. Existing is not living. You exist and you are dying. Dying is not living. Atheism is dumb, the religion of fools thinking they can dethrone God. To be a child of God, you have to be born of God. You need a new birth, you need a new spirit as you are in your current condition nothing but a sinner like your parents, with the same spirit as them, condemned in death due to your fallen nature which cannot please God. I doubt that you will ever repent of your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and trust Him to save you from Hell knowing He is risen from the dead with power to forgive and save all who come to Him in faith; but I could be wrong. I believe you will wake up in the fire of Hell soon (soon being less than 100 years) and be there forever; but I could be wrong. It is possible that by some miracle you will come to your senses and realize you need to be saved and only God the Savior Jesus Christ has the power to save you, but I think I'm right about you and you are going to fry like an eternal sausage in the fire of Hell. I really hope I'm wrong about that....but then again, I really think I"m right. You are going to prove me right, aren't you? Hey!!!! Here's one you might have missed, it's a story of the future when God is going to kill far more people than ever before in a series of horrific events which will seem to you to be much worse than anything you have posted. It's from the book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ, chapter 19:11-21. It's good how God kills all His enemies, take a peek and think about what's coming for you if you insist on being an enemy of God forever. And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Is it not awesome how God will fill the bellies of fowls with the flesh of kings and atheists? Though I doubt that you intend to say anything good about the Lord God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth and all things in them, your comment here is actually fair and I gave you an up vote for it. The flaw is that you and all of the atheists are in God's cross hairs now....as am I and all of the real believers in Christ. Everybody whose time is being counted down to zero is in God's cross hairs. The difference between me being in God's cross hairs and you being in God's cross hairs is that when He pulls the trigger and my time is over, I'm forgiven in Christ as He paid my price so I can be set free. You're paying for yourself and can never be free by trying to be free. None of them are. God is all powerful and almighty. He is infinitely wise and always makes correct judgement. He has killed many but with reason. Each time he strikes someone dead he is doing it for a justifiable reason. A great deal of the time he kills to free people from sin. He saves the sinner and others from sin. When he destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, for example, it was to free the people of the two cities and the rest of the world from sin. Also, you don't give very good examples. In many of your examples God wasn't even the one killing or instructing to kill. Your douche of a sky god never saves anyone from anything. How many millions over the eons have prayed to him for an escape from death or torture? People who worshiped and prayed to him? Only to have their prayers go unanswered? Yahweh! What a douche. Now then....answer my question in the debate header of be banned. SS loath·some -causing hatred or disgust; repulsive Do you find this loathsome about the Religion of Islam ! Homosexuality What is Islam's position on the treatment of homosexuals? Islam goes beyond merely disapproving of homosexuality. Sharia teaches that homosexuality is a vile form of fornication, punishable by death. Abu Dawud (4448) - "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." Homosexuals are beheaded, hanged and stoned in modern Saudi Arabia and Iran, where Muhammad's laws are applied most strictly. Five other Muslim countries also have the death penalty on their books for homosexual behavior. In the past, gays were burned. What you got to say about the Religion of Islam there stupid ! Wow this is a den of demons Id be all day fixing your misconceptions. Ill try to hit a few. There are odd things found with no explanation from giant bones to stone structures with advancements beyond even an attempt to explain. You all should be digging there. The Bible broaches these things and explains them. There was seed of fallen angels and the many stories in "mythology" hybrids crossing seeds. Two things before the flood God mentions. Seeds crossing hybrids nephilum, and violence. Jesus said it will be the same as in Noahs days. Marrying and given in marriage, seeds crossing, and violence, blood shed everywhere. What was Hitler about, seeds and creating as if God. What is the search of man now, creating perfect humans in the image of man's imagination as a god. So this end of mans depravity brought massive end So...you just HAD to pull Hitler out of your ass, eh? Wow. You people are sooooo predictable. And thanks for confirming this is TRUE! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ LOL SS A den of demons .... and in waltzes Mother Teresa :) Well I established yesterday you didn't know what that big word ... contradiction meant and now you're using another big one ...misconception ... you're making progress :) Things with no explanation like bones , structures and rocks ... ok will get someone on it ... sorry .. wait , it's in the bible .. what its angel spunk ... ok thanks for clearing that up :) You do know Hitler was a Catholic ? You really need an adult with you before you type a word because you're obviously not up to it :) I will discuss anyone of what you think is a contradiction. But you certainly are not worth my time with your thoughtless copy and paste of nonsense. Your just not worth it. If you really want to know Ill be glad to spend the time. But if you are evil and you are destined to perish, which seems to be the case, Im not arguing with the dead. Jesus said let the dead bury their dead and look for His sheep. You will fully know soon. You can wait. The sheep cant wait the childrens bread is for the living not for the swine the demon legion inhabits, those go squeeling and jump into the sea! A challenge for all you cowardly atheists: With a civil tongue, choose the story in the Bible you find most heinous and discuss it with me and I will show you why God passed those judgments and in every case how His judgement was less than what was deserved. I can also show you why God is justified to kill you in the most horrible drawn out suffering, or immediately any time and any place He decides to do it, and I can show you that He has been merciful to you and not dealt with you according to your sins. If one of you takes me up on this and can discuss with a civil tongue as challenged, I'll withdraw my labeling of you as a coward. I think it'd be the one where God sent bears to maul and kill children. I get the meaning behind it, that doesn't mean I would be ok with the death of children just because they called Elisha bald and mocked him. To turn around after being mocked and curse them in God's name, then they get murdered by a bear? Just a bit over done in my opinion. Here is one apply science and you can get a good visual! Revelation 9New American Standard Bible (NASB) 9 Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him. 2 He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke of the pit. 3 Then out of the smoke came locusts upon the earth, and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 They were told not to hurt the grass of the earth, nor any green thing, nor any tree, but only the men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 And they were not permitted to kill anyone, but to torment for five months; and their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it stings a man. 6 And in those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will long to die, and death flees from them. 7 The appearance of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle; and on their heads appeared to be crowns like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. 8 They had hair like the hair of women, and their teeth were like the teeth of lions. 9 They had breastplates like breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots, of many horses rushing to battle. 10 They have tails like scorpions, and stings; and in their tails is their power to hurt men for five months. 11 They have as king over them, the angel of the abyss; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon. 12 The first woe is past; behold, two woes are still coming after these things. 13 Then the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14 one saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” 15 And the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released, so that they would kill a third of mankind. 16 The number of the armies of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them. 17 And this is how I saw in the vision the horses and those who sat on them: the riders had breastplates the color of fire and of hyacinth and of brimstone; and the heads of the horses are like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths proceed fire and smoke and brimstone. 18 A third of mankind was killed by these three plagues, by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which proceeded out of their mouths. 19 For the power of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents and have heads, and with them they do harm. 20 The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, so as not to worship demons, and the idols of gold and of silver and of brass and of stone and of wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk; 21 and they did not repent of their murders nor of their sorceries nor of their immorality nor of their thefts. 1
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You don't go to church and you stay at home creating some stupid religious arguments to discredit God. God says In the commandments we shouldn't kill and He yet killed whatever number of people...... Pls do you understand the meaning God? And the difference from Man.? Man am sorry to say you are a fool. How can God create commandments for himself? Of course the commandents were for men to help them to be disciplined or help them stay away from sin. God is Holy....why does He need commandments? God can Kill 500billions of people He is still Holy and you are not. Holiness is not by acts. Cos he says our best of righteousness is like a filthy rag before Him. Why? Sin is a virus and as long as you are infected you can never be Holy . God is not infected. There are Holy angels too who can kill, fight, Curse and still are Holy. Commandments are for sinners. FOR ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. sin(the virus) came into the world through one man and continued through his descendants.....and thats why jesus came. The other man only through him sin will leave the world. And jesus was born Holy cos he is not from the sperm of a sinful man but he came from the holy spirit. And because he is holy he could take away our sins. Jesus rebuked and did several things you consider Sin but he never was a sinner cos he is not a seed of Adam. Only seeds of Adam are sinners. If God moulds another Human being now. HE is never ever a sinner and is Holy and also does not need commandments, he is better than commandment like God is Holier than the Commandments itself Just like jesus. But it was necessary for jesus to posses our flesh but did not have the blood of adam which is infected with the virus, sin but instead a with a holy blood and he took our sins and its punishment which is death, died, and defeated death cos sin couldn't dominate him. And now if you accept him and admit you are a sinner, he Washes away your sinful blood with His, so you become a new creation and free of Adam's curses. You inherit everything from jesus his kingdom like you inherit your father's property since the blood gives proof. And just like he died off this flesh for the glorious body, you too will die it off and the day of ressurection, you will inherit what he has, the glorious body, kingdom of heaven, every angel serves you, you will lack nothing and the free of the devil's Army eternally.....no more wars, greed, hunger, pain, worries, jealousy,need, impressing people, job interviews just to eat, etc Slappy was raised Catholic and rebelled against that pagan religion, and at some point made up his mind to pretend to have murdered God and deny that God lives. Slappy is explosively angry toward God. Probably had a lot to do with an extremely demanding father....or maybe no father around enough....people who act this way always came out of some kind of extremity. Nowastain was raised as a panting pervert and now pants like a dog in heat anytime he sees anything resembling his ' demanding ' mother .... or maybe his mother wasn'nt around ? Maybe working .... late ......again .... People who act this way do so out of some kind of extremity ....or so they say :) A challenge for all you cowardly atheists: With a civil tongue, choose the story in the Bible you find most heinous and discuss it with me and I will show you why God passed those judgments and in every case how His judgement was less than what was deserved. I can also show you why God is justified to kill you in the most horrible drawn out suffering, or immediately any time and any place He decides to do it, and I can show you that He has been merciful to you and not dealt with you according to your sins. If one of you takes me up on this and can discuss with a civil tongue as challenged, I'll withdraw my labeling of you as a coward. I actually had to edit that list of bible atrocities since it was too long and wojuld nto fit in the header space! LOL Here is one of my very favorite lovely bible stories. God murders kids for dissing one of his bald prophets! What a douche! 2 Kings 2:23–24 Embed
23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and amocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he acursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of 1their number. Read More Here's a future atrocity coming against the enemies of God...don't forget this one, Slappy...... The atrocity is that fools force God to execute punishment on them and it's going to be ugly...in fact, ugly is an understatement. Atrocious is an understatement. Trouble greater than ever known in the whole history of the world is coming to the enemies of God. Drowning as in the flood was an easy death. Drowning is scary but not painful. What's coming for the enemies of God is going to be a lot worse than drowning. The idiots will beg for death to get them out of the terrors by which God is going to judge the world. It's from the book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ, chapter 19:11-21. It's good how God kills all His enemies, take a peek and think about what's coming for you if you insist on being an enemy of God forever. And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Is it not awesome how God will fill the bellies of fowls with the flesh of kings and atheists? Ignorance is bliss, eh, Slappy? Those boys who mocked the prophets were renegades like the punk gangsta niggas who make Detroit a jungle where cockroaches rule the night. Those boys should have been put to death long before they harassed God's man as he was walking peacefully. Those boys were supposed to be home with their family learning how to be men. Too bad there's not a man of God to clean out your gutters since you seem to think renegades should get a pass and run the streets harassing old men. God gave those boys what they were supposed to get under the Law long before they ganged up outside of the city looking to make trouble. They were rebellious punks and they were supposed to be put do death. In your jungle of Detroit, for your attitude deserving to give punks a pass, you deserve it when they pull you or your women off the streets to rape or beat you to a pulp. This stuff is so stupid, idiots acting like they have "AH HA, GOTHCHA!!!" evidence proving God is not good. All you do with this stuff is prove your ignorance. You want to provoke fights, so don't blame me for giving you the truth hard between your eyes. Atheism is stupid. 1
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"God murders kids for dissing one of his bald prophets!" PROBABLY SAVING THEM FROM A FUTURE LIKE YOURS. HAD THOSE CHILDREN GROWN UP WITH THAT ATTITUDE OF LOW SENSE OF MORALITY, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN WORSE OFF THAN YOU....AND MIGHT HAVE BECOME YOUR GREAT GRAND PARENTS WHO WOULD HAVE TRANSFERED THIS VIRUS TO YOU GENUINELY AND YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN WORSE OFF THAN NOW. SO GOD FORSAW AND SAVED YOU TOO FROM THE WORSER MAN YOU COULD HAVE BEEN THAN NOW. Seems the lord also condones rape!! Is there any deed TOO despicable for the Douche God Yahweh? I think not! 1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT) So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan. The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse.” Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we dest60royed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'” So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes. Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil? 2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT) They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho. Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins. 3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14) As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery? 4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God. 5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB) If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. It is clear that God doesn’t give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans “property”. http://www.bethinking.org/bible/ Every one of your proofs of being ignorant of the Bible and trying to use it to accuse God of not being good is answered on the above link. If any of you cowardly atheists can show enough maturity to get an education, you pick one of your "loathsome" Bible stories and I will show you that God is justified in His execution of judgement. If God kills you fools at any moment, He is justified to do it. If God puts any or all of you fools into painful suffering, crippling diseases, or in a fire to fry like a sausage, He is justified in doing so. You are not justified in any way to live, you are not justified in any way to accuse God of not being good. The fact that God withholds His execution of Judgement against your bad attitudes and allows you to abuse His air by spending your time trying to frame Him as not being good is proof that He is good...giving you time you do not deserve. After reading the above, you might want to curse like a devil and bury your head in the sand like a fool and declare God can't see you. Hey!!!! Here's one you might have missed, it's a story of the future when God is going to kill far more people than ever before in a series of horrific events which will seem to you to be much worse than anything you have posted. It's from the book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ, chapter 19:11-21. It's good how God kills all His enemies, take a peek and think about what's coming for you if you insist on being an enemy of God forever. And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Is it not awesome how God will fill the bellies of fowls with the flesh of kings and atheists? |
