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Fascism and Communism are not opposite extremes. They are the same evil of State Slavery. They are both totalitarian. Their opposite, Liberty, leads to Capitalism as a natural result.
Fascism and Communism are not opposite extremes. They are the same evil of State Slavery.
Oh God you IGNORANT IMBECILE. How about you actually READ some Karl Marx before commenting on his theories, you goddamned far right idiot.
"Withering away of the state" is a Marxist concept coined by Friedrich Engels referring to the idea that, with realization of the ideals of socialism, the social institution of a state will eventually become obsolete and disappear, as the society will be able to govern itself without the state and its coercive enforcement of the law.
The entire point of Communism is to get rid of the state. The state which is there right now, enslaving you. And you seem to think you want the state to enslave you so that you don't get enslaved by the state!!!!!! It's fucking retarded and you are delusional.
Provided nobody takes over and turns it into fascism, I think communism would be better. I don't mind sacrificing speculative efficiency or 'progress' for a lifestyle everyone can enjoy without the threat of not having basic needs of food, water and shelter being met following failure.
That's not to say fascism would be awful. Fascism could be perfect with the right person and their management. I think the main problem is that even with the right people, they eventually die and another takes their place.
Communism and Capitalism would be opposing opposites. The only Communism that has actually existed is not true Marxism - it’s basically one big monopoly fascism with one big corporation (the State). The Fascist Nazis still allowed some free market capitalism.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Fascism. It's a revolutionary ideology providing us with an alternative to late era Capitalism of corporate tyranny, hedonism, materialism, greed, declining social mobility, and so forth. It's also an alternative to the unrealistic nature, economic inefficiency, and blood caused by Communism.
Fascism is the best hope for the survival and continuation of America and the American dream. It recognizes how outdated liberal democracy is, which is fueled by the collapse of morality, education, and religion.
In Communist regimes you get killed off at any time no matter what you do.
Do you want to talk about capitalist regimes? How about Guatemala or El Salvador in the 1980s? Places where roving military death squads were literally picking people up off the streets and executing them?
Shut the fuck up about Communism, you Cold War moron.
They always had a reason for killing even if it was completely to 'show they are in charge'. From Cuba to USSR to North Korea, we see the pawns being tossed around for no reason other than "lulz"
I wish I was moronic enough to understand how intelligent you see yourself as.
I don't see myself as intelligent. I see you as being more stupid than a slice of pork. I would ask you if you understand the difference but the question would obviously be rhetorical.
In Communist regimes you get killed off at any time no matter what you do.
You mean in Moaist/Lenninist/Stalinist regimes etc. right? You do realize there has never once been an orthodox Marxist "regime" right? The Communism you are referring to is actually just another form of fascism, because actual Marxist Communism (which to this day only exists in theory) calls for production to be controlled by the producers, whereas the communism you're talking about is the exact opposite and production is controlled by the state.
You are arguing against fascism in favour of fascism, nice move Mingi.
Also, you have sided with the far right in this instance and have admitted that you agree with Hitlery about everything. Hillary is an American democrat, which makes you center-right in most cases. You are a conservative capitalist dick head and not a true leftist. A true leftist would side with the extreme left over the extreme right, and be able to tell the difference between Marxism and a totalitarian fascist regime using Marxist talking points to win over the masses and over throw the current power structure just to install an even more fascist one.
Between these two regimes, the fascist is the better one. I support neither.
The opposite is true, communism is almost correct and Marxism only needed more fleshing out to be complete. You are conflating Fascism which calls itself communism as communism. Is the democratic republic of the congo a democratic republic? No it's not, that's just a name designed to make it sound good.
Ignoring everything I say and refusing to understand the truth does not make you correct. You are a right wing dick face.
Orthodox Marxism is dysfunctional and ignores the human need for motive to work as well as the concept of stimulating innovation so there's never been an example that didn't die off nearly immediately if it ever did arise.
It has, it's been tried wrongly by all communist regimes so far as well as 'share everything' tribes that got wiped out by the anarcho-primativist / anarcho-capitalist tribes back in the day of our origins.
Orthodox Marxism is dysfunctional and ignores the human need for motive to work as well as the concept of stimulating innovation so there's never been an example that didn't die off nearly immediately if it ever did arise.
In other words there has never been a time in history when real communism has ever been put into practice and you're a right winger who doesn't understand Marxist theory.
In other words unless the species of living beings in the society/community is not human, 'orthodox' socialism/communism always will fail.
In a way you're finally correct about something. It will be achieved in stages and eventually in the transhuman Type One Civilization we will have an RBE system. For now humans are too stupid for it to work. Marxism is objectively superior to fascism and is the closest thing other than RBE to the future system, when humanity is truly civilized.
What you see as stupidity is called not being a robot that isn't conscious of its own existence and which doesn't experience motivation or the will to live. If that's your ideal state of being then I think you need therapy.
What you see as stupidity is called not being a robot that isn't conscious of its own existence and which doesn't experience motivation or the will to live
The opposite is true. What I am referring to is a more conscious superhuman being, which is still capable of feeling but not stupid enough to believe in superstitious concepts or put "feels over facts". The motivation and will of these beings is far greater than you could imagine, as they are driven by curiosity and a will to improve things whereas humans are motivated by selfishness and by being programmed with superstitious concepts.
My humanity sees the logic in behaving in certain ways, your humanity needs to be threatened and programmed from birth with social constructs just to refrain from murdering each other. Your humanity is a bunch of brain washed robots who dwell within a world of concept rather than physical reality, thus they are far less conscious and motivated by base instinct layered under heaps of concepts drilled into their head by society to control them.
No, your being is entirely emotionless. They are dead inside and see themselves as nothing more than a slave to the community/society they are in and a resource to be used by the others in it.
No, your being is entirely emotionless. They are dead inside and see themselves as nothing more than a slave to the community/society they are in and a resource to be used by the others in it.
You say all this simply because they don't dwell in the entirely subjective world that you do. How pathetic.
Fascist regimes don't take much from the rich not nearly as much and reward the rich immensely if they remain productive so long as they aren't prejudiced against their culture.
You do realize there has never once been an orthodox Marxist "regime" right? The Communism you are referring to is actually just another form of fascism, because actual Marxist Communism (which to this day only exists in theory) calls for production to be controlled by the producers
Marx called for despotism in the Communist Manifesto. In no uncertain terms, Marx called for “Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State” as well as the centralization of most everything else. Marx was a totalitarian, and all the failed Marxist experiments have been true to his bullshit theory. I know you’ll call me a liar, so I will link to the manifesto itself. Try reading pig.
The only aspect of his theory that has never existed is the Utopia he falsely claims is the end goal.
