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Debate Score:11
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Which health care system is ideal?

Single-payer system: Universal health care, socialized health care
Multi-payer system: Where people pay for health care, either themselves or through independent insurance companies

Single-payer system

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Multi-payer system

Side Score: 4
3 points

Which health care system is ideal?

Hello b:

It depends on whether you're a "have", or a "have not".. The haves like what we got now, because, well, they're the haves.. The have nots don't like it because, well, they're dying in the streets.

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Side: Single-payer system
CrabCakes(130) Disputed
0 points

It depends on whether you're a "have", or a "have not".. The haves like what we got now, because, well, they're the haves..

How many of them started as have nots, and why should they be demonized for their success?

The have nots don't like it because, well, they're dying in the streets.

How many of the have nots are have nots due to laziness or a lack of ambition?

And why aren't they going to the Socialist ER you told us about?

Side: Multi-payer system
2 points

How many of them started as have nots

Well, Trump was given 430 million dollars in start-up funds from his rich racist daddy, so he's one who did not.

and why should they be demonized for their success?

How does giving poor people access to necessary medical care "demonize" rich people for their success?

How many of the have nots are have nots due to laziness or a lack of ambition?

Give them all 430 million dollars like Trump got and we'll tell you. Your premise that capitalism is a fair system where people always get back what they put into it belongs in a corporate propaganda handbook you laughably sophist moron. The people with least have to do most, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LEAST. Your theory that the billionaires who spend all day sunning themselves on tropical beaches are, or ever were, the hardest workers in society is ABSOLUTELY STUPID. If it were as simple as working hard during the early part of your life them obviously everybody, or close to everybody, would be goddamned rich by their 30s!!!

Your entire premise is laughably stupid so it is not possible to debate you reasonably on this -- or indeed any -- subject. You are only here to spread vile corporate propaganda which is grounded in your own myths and half-truths, not in anything resembling reality.

Side: Single-payer system
bridgetmm(70) Disputed
1 point

How many of the have nots are have nots due to laziness or a lack of ambition

Are you saying that health care rights are only for those with ambition and success in their life?

Side: Single-payer system

Hi Bridget. I don't think either is ideal, but nationalising health services is a considerably better idea than privatising them. For starters, even in countries with national healthcare services, rich people are still able to jump the queue and go private if they so desire. They aren't losing out on anything. All a national service does is ensure everybody can get some basic level of care if they need it.

Side: Multi-payer system
bridgetmm(70) Clarified
3 points

Aren't you on the wrong side then? You chose the multi-payer system, however your argument argues for a single-payer? Or am I misunderstanding?

Side: Single-payer system
BurritoLunch(6607) Clarified
1 point

Aren't you on the wrong side then? You chose the multi-payer system, however your argument argues for a single-payer? Or am I misunderstanding?

No, I probably am. Lol. I'm not familiar with the definitions of your terms and assumed a multi-payer system was a tax-based one. Sorry.

Side: Single-payer system