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 Which were the wars that America fought that were justified and good? (28)

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Which were the wars that America fought that were justified and good?

Iraq

Afghanistan  The invasion of Afghanistan to depose that country's Taliban government and destroy training camps associated with al-Qaida is understood to have been the opening, and in many ways defining, campaign of the broader War on Terrorism.

 Haiti 

 Persian Gulf War (1990–1991)

 Panama 

 Libya

 Grenada  

 Vietnam War (1955–1975) The Vietnam War was a war fought between 1957 and 1975 on the ground in South Vietnam and bordering areas of Cambodia and Laos (see Secret War) and in the strategic bombing (see Operation Rolling Thunder) of North Vietnam.

 Lebanon crisis of 1958 

 Korean War (1950–1953) 

Cold War era (1945–1991) 

World War II (1939–1945) The global conflict started on 1 September 1939 and raged until 2 September 1945, involving most of the peoples of the world. It was the most extensive and costly war in history as well as the history of the United States (excepting personnel). US involvement in World War II was initially limited to providing war material and financial support to Britain, the Soviet Union, and the Republic of China. 

 World War I (1917–1918) The United States originally wished to remain neutral when World War I broke out in August 1914.

Mexico (1910–1919) 

Banana Wars (1898–1935)

Philippine-American War (1899–1902)

Spanish-American War (1898) 

Indian Wars (1865–1870)

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3 points

WWII. That's it.

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Side: only one
2 points

Do we even need to answer this? In all honesty, it made me laugh when I saw it.

Side: Not even close
Inzababa(34) Disputed
1 point

is there anyone "forcing" you to answer anything here? Not like there's really anything you "need" to do is there?

Side: duty
BenWalters(1513) Disputed
3 points

What are you talking about? It's a pretty well agreed on position that America's foreign policy has been and is currently, shit. It's overly interventionist, and invades sovereign rights regularly. I don't think there much need to debate that.

And posting the lyrics to a song is hardly constructive debate.

Side: Not even close

I know, who's going to sit there and write a damn essay on the Banana Wars... actually don't answer that, I'm sure there are some people who have invested years into the subject and will make me look like a fool! Seriously though, the majority of those wars were either meaningless or mistakes.

Side: Does it matter
Inzababa(34) Disputed
1 point

Have a look at other replies.

PS If you were born and/or lived in Guatemala, Honduras or any other of the countries concerned, maybe you'd have something to say ;)

Side: Really
1 point

Whether long range weapon or suicide bomber

Wicked mind is a weapon of mass destruction

Whether you're soar away sun or BBC 1

Misinformation is a weapon of mass destruc

You could be a Caucasian or a poor Asian

Racism is a weapon of mass destruction

Whether inflation or globalization

Fear is a weapon of mass destruction

My dad came into my room holding his hat

I knew he was leaving,

he sat on my bed told me some facts, son.

I have a duty, calling on me

You and your sister be brave my little soldier

And don't forget all I told ya

Your the mister of the house now remember this

And when you wake up in the morning give ya momma a kiss

Then I had to say goodbye

In the morning woke momma with a kiss on each eyelid,

Even though I'm only a kid

Certain things can't be hid

Momma grabbed me

Held me like I was made of gold

But left her inner stories untold

I said, momma it will be alright

When daddy comes home, tonight

The skin under my chin

is exploding, again.

I'm getting stress from some other children.

I'm holding it in, we taking sides, like a politician

and if I get friction we get to fightin.

I defend my dad he's the best of all men

an whatever he's doin he's doin the right thing.

Its frightenin but it makes me mad, why do all

of these people seem to hate my dad?

an if that ain't enough, now I've got these spots.

I go to sleep every night with my stomach in knots.

and whats more I can hear Mama next door

explore the radio for reports of war.

and all we ever seem to do is hide the tears,

seems Daddy been gone for years.

But he was right, now I'm geared up for the fight

and he would be proud of me if Daddy came home tonight.

Side: Really
1 point

None of the wars mentioned above ought to have been fought. The Confederacy ought to have fought their war against the Union, for they were defending their rights. Were America actually America at the time, I would likewise agree that they ought to have fought the British in the Revolutionary War, despite my disagreement with their motivations: they were the most free people in the world at the time, most likely, and they gave it up. What did it get them: the Terrorist Act, the IRS, and a worldwide bad reputation.

Side: Union and Revolutionary
Inzababa(34) Disputed
1 point

what about the World War?

what about Mexico (1910–1919) ?

you sure "none" is the suitable answer?

Side: not all wars are unjustified
Liber(1730) Disputed
1 point

I didn't say that America has never fought a just war, but that institutions other than the one we think of when we hear the term America has fought just wars: namely the American Colonies and the Confederate States of America.

Side: not all wars are unjustified
1 point

I will agree that the Civil War and Revolutionary War are justifiable, but what makes you think the Confederacy should have won? The Union was fighting for the rights of African American SLAVES (working against their will) later on in the war.

Side: so which is it
Liber(1730) Disputed
1 point

but what makes you think the Confederacy should have won?

I did not say that the Confederacy ought to have won; however, if any American wars can be called "justifiable", then they would be the wars in which Americans are fighting for freedom from tyranny, and, to the slave-owners, a law banning the ownership of slaves was tyrannical. That is, if you buy into the common explanation of the Civil War.

Side: so which is it
1 point

I think the Civil War was justified and good, it was fighting for the freedom of a mistreated and captured people.

Side: civil war
1 point

any other war?

and why did you pick that one out of the list?

Side: Not sure
2 points

I picked Civil War because it was a justified fight. Many people just wildly claim that America has only been a force for evil when, in fact, it has done a lot of good for the world (though it has done some bad things).

Side: civil war
1 point

it was fighting for the freedom of a mistreated and captured people.

You mean the white slave owners, mistreated by the law and captured by the Union, right?

Side: only one
1 point

Plenty of wars have been "justified" (1812 War, Second World War, American Civil War, First Gulf War, Afghan War). But I doubt that one could say that any war is a "good" war. All war to some degree involves dehumanisation of other peoples, destruction of property, threats to human health and security, human rights abuses etc. etc.; it's rather alarming that Americans take the idea of it so lightly as to be willing to call it "good". Also, it's rare in war that sides can be completely clear-cut into merely "good" vs. "evil".

Side: Does it matter
1 point

Some would say that violence and war is never justified. (not me). What would you reply to someone who told you that?

Side: duty
1 point

I'd say they're justified in the sense that international governance, diplomacy, etc. broke down and warfare was the last resort. Nobody should enthusiastically embrace war, but sometimes you have to engage in it.

Side: not all wars are unjustified

I don't think any of those wars were justified. All of those wars could have been averted.

Side: not all wars are unjustified
1 point

Think about it this way... the wars were definitely justified. what evidence could be used against in?

Side: not all wars are unjustified