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White people are better at name calling than black people.

White people came up with the 'N' word (Which is so offensive, you can't use it anymore).
Black people came up with 'Honky' and 'Cracker' (Bitch, please...).

True.

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Wait..., what? No!!!

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But wait..., that's not all.... White people are also better at coming up with offensive symbols (Like the Confederate flag, the Swastika and white, pointy, hoods). The best anyone else has come up with is 'the middle finger' ;)

Side: True.
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This is so true we are the bestest name callers ever , here ya go courtesy of Wiki ....... 🙀🙀🙀

Af

(Rhodesia) African to a white Rhodesian (Rhodie).[1]

Ape

(U.S.) a black person.[2]

Béni-oui-oui

Mostly used during the French colonization of Algeria as a derogatory term to describe Algerian Muslims.[3]

Bluegum

An offensive slur used by some United States white Southerners for an African-American perceived as being lazy and who refuses to work.[4]

Boogie

a black person (film noire) "The boogies lowered the boom on Beaver Canal".[5]

Buck

a black person, also used to describe Native Americans.

Buffie

a black person.[6]

Burrhead / Burr-head / Burr head

(U.S.) a black person (referencing stereotypical hair type).[7]

Colored

(U.S.) a Black person. Once generally accepted as inoffensive, this word is now considered disrespectful by some. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People continues to use its full name unapologetically. Some black Americans have reclaimed this word and softened it in the expression "a person of color".

Coon

(U.S. & U.K) a black person. Possibly from Portuguese barracoos, a building constructed to hold slaves for sale. (1837).[8]

Crow

a black person,[9] spec. a black woman.

Eggplant

(U.S.) A black person. Notable for appearing in the 1979 film, The Jerk.[10]

Fuzzies

(U.K.) A black person. In the 1964 film classic, "Zulu", the British officer played by Michael Caine refers to the Zulus as "fuzzies".[11]

Gable

a black person.[6]

Golliwogg

(UK Commonwealth) a dark-skinned person, after Florence Kate Upton's children's book character [12]

Jigaboo, jiggabo, jijjiboo, zigabo, jig, jigg, jiggy, jigga

(U.S. & UK) a black person (JB) with stereotypical black features (dark skin, wide nose, etc.) Used to refer to mannerisms that resemble dancing.

Jim Crow

(U.S.) a black person; also the name for the segregation laws prevalent in much of the United States until the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s.[13]

Jim Fish

(South Africa) a black person[14]

Jungle bunny

(US and UK) a black person.[15]

Kaffir, kaffer, kaffir, kafir, kaffre

(South Africa) a. a black person. Considered very offensive.

Macaca, same as "macaque"

a person of black African descent, originally used in languages of colonial powers in Africa[16]

Mammy

Domestic servant of black African descent, generally good-natured, often overweight, and loud.[17]

Monkey

a person of black African descent.[16] See also Macaca (slur). It also gave rise to the racist "monkey chants" in sports.

Mosshead

a black person.[6]

Munt

(among whites in South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Zambia) a black person from muntu, the singular of Bantu[18]

Nig-nog

(UK & U.S.) a black person.[19]

Nigger / nigra / nigga / niggah / nigguh

(U.S., UK) An offensive term for a black person. From the word negro which means the color black in numerous languages. Diminutive appellations include "Nigg" and "Nigz". Over time, the terms "Nigga" and "Niggaz" (plural) have come to be frequently used between some African-Americans without the negative associations of "Nigger".

Niglet / nigglet

a black child

Nigra / negra / niggra / nigrah / nigruh

(U.S.) offensive for a black person [first used in the early 1900s][20]

Pickaninny

a term – generally considered derogatory – that in English usage refers to black children, or a caricature of them which is widely considered racist.

Porch monkey

a black person,[21]

Powder burn

a black person.[6]

Quashie

a black person.[6]

Sambo

(U.S.) a derogatory term for an African American, Black, or sometimes a South Asian person.[17][22]

Smoked Irish / smoked Irishman

(U.S.) 19th century term for Blacks (intended to insult both Blacks and Irish).[6]

Sooty

a black person [originated in the U.S. in the 1950s][23]

Spade

A black person.[24] recorded since 1928 (OED), from the playing cards suit.

Spook

a black person.

Tar baby

(UK; U.S.; and N.Z.) a black child.[25]

Teapot

(British) a black person. [1800s][26]

Thicklips

a black person

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marcusmoon(576) Clarified
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Dermot,

I do not see anything intrinsically insulting in many of these. Most of the items on your list are primarily insulting by fiat.

This brings up an interesting social reality. Offense in not given, but rather is taken.

Whether a person feels insulted has little to do with what is intended by the speaker, than with whether the recipient with that person has been conditioned (culturally or personally) to feel insulted by the particular slur. A scene in Clerks II illustrates this humorously. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qc0akWRBQk )

In order for a racial slur to be insulting, there needs to be something culturally distasteful in the referent of the metaphor.

Ape, Jim Fish, and porch monkey are distinct from others by virtue of the animal referents, indicating being less than human, without being associated with animals commonly admired.(Black Panther was not considered insulting because large cats are cool.)

Often a term is "insulting" for no other reason than referring in an off-hand way to physical characteristics that are distinct from Whites. (e.g., bluegum, burrhead, fuzzies, powder burn, thicklips). It is worth noting that Black culture has taken references to their physical characteristics to be insulting. This indicates a self-esteem issue within the culture.

By the way, it is anomalous that Sambo is considered an insult by anyone of African descent because it is from a humorous story called "Little Black Sambo" about a rich Indian (from India) boy being tricked by a tiger.

It is a testament to how culturally impoverished racists were in the US in the late 1800s that they conflated Africa with India.

When I was a child in the 60's and 70s, there was a chain of diners in the US called Sambo's. The walls were decorated with images from the story. The pancakes came with Tiger Butter which was butter whipped with maple syrup. The chain went out of business in the early 1980s because of lawsuits by even more people who did not understand the difference between Africa and India.

Side: True.
1 point

Hi Marcus , neither do I , they're merely a demonstration of the typical names used in name calling in this particular case .

Offence is not given but taken , agreed , but many blacks do in fact find these terms deeply offensive .

When I was a kid we had Golliwogs and my parents used to watch the black and white minstrel show , one never saw a black man or women in Ireland unless it was a tourist ; Dubliners used to joke about the late Phil Lynott of Thin Lizzy fame being the only black man in Ireland

Side: True.
1 point

You make a good point.

And by doing so you basically confirm that yes, we are the "blue eyed devil."

Side: True.
2 points

Hello j:

In my view, it's NOT about the NUMBER of words. It's about DELIVERY.. In that regard, black people are WAYYY ahead..

excon

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
1 point

OK. So what do you use to measure how good the delivery was? For example, if the name caller succeeds at pissing off his opponent, then the delivery was excellent. If, however, the name caller only elicits laughter from his opponent, then the delivery sucked ;)

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
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Hi Excon,

In my view, it's NOT about the NUMBER of words. It's about DELIVERY.. In that regard, black people are WAYYY ahead..

I definitely agree about delivery being of paramount importance.

You are probably right about Blacks having a cultural advantage in delivery of insults.

When I taught in the inner city, some of my Black students would play Snaps. The White, Hispanic, and Asian kids never got into it. That game is targeted training in the delivery of insults. There is a lot to be said for cultural influence in the development of insult culture.

I think the ideal insult has a punch line that catches the target (or audience) by surprise. The first part of the insult should be innocuous, or better yet, should look like it might be complimentary, and then the last line needs to twist it into insult.

There is also the variation that uses double entendre, so the meaning of the statement sits and stews for a second before hitting the insulting punch.

There is a story that when Joan Crawford died, a reporter called Bette Davis up for a comment on it. Davis said, "My mother taught me not to speak ill of the dead, but to say only good. So, my comment is, 'Joan Crawford is dead. Good.'"

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marcusmoon(576) Disputed
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Excon,

In that regard, black people are WAYYY ahead..

Except for White gay men. Some of those guys raise insult delivery to an art form.

A really catty drag queen can take the delivery to a professional level, and some actually do. The waitresses (waiters?) and other performers at Lips in San Diego make their livings by singing Liza and Cher songs, and insulting the customers. They are HILARIOUS, but it is all in the delivery. To give you the idea, the Wednesday night show was called "Bitchy Bingo."

Side: True.
1 point

If that's the case then I fail at name calling so bad I bring at least 10 good name callers who are white, down with me. You're welcome, everyone else.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
1 point

Are you saying that being great at name calling isn't something to be proud of? ;)

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
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It probably is something to be proud of, I just admit I am terrible at it. :D

I've heard some banter that has made me laugh so much I was crying and going....omg why can't I be as creative as they are?!?

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What's in a name?

Well within living memory there was no negative attribution to the word nigger. In 1945 a movie was produced in England called Ten Little Niggers based on the Agatha Christie novel of the same name. It had no racist connotation there.

It was the Americans who attached racism to the word because whites used what was essentially neutral with a hateful overtone.

It is not a word which matters but the intention behind it.

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