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God Government
Debate Score:51
Arguments:46
Total Votes:57
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Who has killed more people, God or Government?

God

Side Score: 28
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Government

Side Score: 23

God created death and he gave people the ability to kill. His creation has killed everyone that has died.

Side: God
1 point

then who created god?...or did he big bang himself into existence?

my dog took a shit in the front lawn the other day...not long after a whole world formed in its place...does that make sparky a god, and to blame for all the lifeforms that died within?

Side: Government
Srom(12206) Disputed
2 points

then who created god?...or did he big bang himself into existence?

No one did. And eternal being doesn't need an existence.

Side: God
2 points

then who created god?...or did he big bang himself into existence?

God cannot be created since he is outside of space-time, which logically implies that he isn't bound by space or time therefore and implication of time upon God cannot be applied. How can you create something that has existed before you? Something that has no end or beginning? Creation implies a starting point, God cannot have one since he isn't bound by time.

Side: God
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

Why does God have to have a creator?

Side: God
Intangible(4933) Disputed
1 point

then who created god?...or did he big bang himself into existence?

Well a God would have to have created God and so the answer remains God.

And if nobody created God, then the answer to the debate would still be God.

my dog took a shit in the front lawn the other day...not long after a whole world formed in its place...does that make sparky a god, and to blame for all the lifeforms that died within?

No

Side: God
1 point

God created death and he gave people the ability to kill. His creation has killed everyone that has died.

How do you create the lack of life? That's like asking someone to create the lack of heat. That's crazy.

Side: Government
Intangible(4933) Disputed
0 points

By creating life you have created the possibility of death.

Side: God
warrior(1854) Disputed
1 point

Actually it was satan leading Adam and Eve (humanity) to sin that created death. So it's satan's fault not God's.

Side: Government
Intangible(4933) Disputed
1 point

The debate does not specify any depiction of God.

Side: God

Which God? Which government? .

Side: God
Atrag(5551) Disputed
2 points

Blasphemy! Are you saying there's more than one God?

Side: Government
1 point

No. Im just asking which religion is being refered to, which government. If you wanna get me fired up, say something in Spanish. ;)

Side: God

God without a doubt has killed more people since it is He that keeps us living and thus causes our death as well. What's your point?

Side: God
1 point

why did he create us...or bother to keep us living? whats the point?

Side: Government
Client444(61) Clarified
1 point

Would you like to just be happy? I mean, without all this, we couldn't appreciate happiness... Probably pretty much that.

Side: God

this side of the board is full of nut jobs. think of this...

what % of people do you believe are truly intelligent? people that have very good common sense when it comes to the way things work, etc?

you have to admit, most people are pretty dumb for the most part. how many of you actually know or met somebody that is true brain...like the inventor of something ingenious? i know i havnt.

well i would estimate less than 15% of humans are or have fallen into the "im not a [email protected]#$%" category.

now tell me if this is just a coincidence and im not saying all these people are the smart one...roughly 85% of people believe in a god...15% (which include the cowardly agnostics) are pretty much atheists.

when it comes to the tough challenging questions/dilemmas...MOST people are going to get it wrong!!!

Side: God

Most people aren't willing too admit that they're a nut job!

I commend you.

Side: God

God has killed more ... But their is a perfectly explainable theory if he is real.

Side: God

Weren't billions of people supposed to have been killed in the flood?

Side: God
2 points

The largest recorded killings in history were carried out by government entity's.

Innocence betrayed
Side: Government
Atrag(5551) Disputed
2 points

God the USA is fucked.

Side: God

Tell me about. My country is awesome, but we are hypocrites for attacking England and Germany.

Side: God
2 points

The framing of this debate is flawed because the two are frequently concurrent, mutually reinforcing mechanisms of violence. Governments that enact violence have frequently invoked religion, and the religious have frequently used governments to enact their violence through the state. The truth is that people have killed the most people, and God and Government are just their favourite tools.

Side: Government
1 point

Even though religion has been used to kill more people, "god" does not exists.

Side: Government

Due to people worshiping God, Millions have died. Worshiping God is responsible for the Holocuast. It's responsible for the Crusades. Finally, the Europeans who succeeded in Native American Genocide were Chrisitans. Add it all up, it very close to Billions. Government was made to manage society and people. While this "God", Brainwash people and is one of the major causes of murder thu history.

Side: Government
1 point

How can a nonexistent imaginary asshole kill more people than a real and very powerful organisation?

Side: Government
1 point

"As God doesn't exist...." quoth the atheist.

Side: Government
0 points

Even assuming you mean the idea of God (since we haven't proven God's existence yet) i still believe the government is responsible for more deaths. The government of any nation is simply the ruling body. A king is a government official of a kingdom, a dad is a government official of a family household. In biblical times, God was the government official of the land, with rulers simply acting under him. Everything was believed to be done in God's name.

Now the reason i'm on this side is because I'm adding the kills the government/religion was responsible for at the time, with the killings just government (which is now more powerful that religion) has accomplished in this time. The number is sure to be higher for government.

Side: Government
-1 points

trick question...they are one in the same...government created god to help rule all the dumb gullible slaves with ease

you all accept this shitty world the way it is...because youve been lead to believe there will be a part 2 in a far away land called heaven

i think the other side should be entitled "im a brainwashed stupid fuck"

Side: Government