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Prolifers. Prochoicers.
Debate Score:27
Arguments:23
Total Votes:33
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Who, is more cruel?

Prolifers.

Side Score: 18
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Prochoicers.

Side Score: 9

Pro-choice policies (education, subsidized contraception, etc.) reduce abortions more than so called anti-abortion policies (Global Gag Rule, defunding Planned Parenthood, cutting Title X contraceptive funding, etc.)

https://www.scielosp.org/article/bwho/2011.v89n12/873-880c/en/

https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/book-excerpts/health-article/impact-of-illegal-abortion/

Side: Prolifers.

I agree. it is fucking stupid, to oppose healthcare and birth control rights, AND, call onesself, prolife.

Side: Prolifers.
2 points

Interesting how when the Republicans owned both houses of congress, the White House AND the Supreme court no one uttered a peep about banning abortion. Why do you suppose that is? It's because your Republican owners have absolutely no intention of ever banning abortion because the abortion issue is the best vote getter they have so they'll never do away with it. They know that if abortion were ever actually banned it would cause an almost immediate cataclysmic social upheaval that would end the Republican party and the conservative bowel movement. Mothers of dead daughters would be rioting in the streets and Republican leaders would lose their power.

Republican politicians are the last people that would ever allow abortion to be made illegal. Meanwhile they'll promise the weak minded such as yourself that if only they could ever get both houses of congress and the White House and the Supreme court all at the same time they'd do away with abortion. They know you're too stupid to remember that they had exactly that not long ago and did nothing about abortion when they had the chance. Keeping things just as they are now insures that they can keep that ring in your nose and use it to lead you to the polls to vote for them every election cycle. They love simple minded easily duped tools such as yourself.

Side: Prolifers.
YIsRisenLord(1202) Clarified
2 points

I have changed my mind, about Republicans. I will vote Democrat, but WHICH Democrat? I have been sucidal for one year, and that led me to vote Republican in the past, but I am not going to, in the future. Prolife does not even exist in America, but my absolute right to have healthcare, is being denied. Prolife, my fucking ass! Good work, hun.

Side: Prolifers.
Chinaman(3570) Clarified
1 point

There is a 2 party system if ya don't like it then amend it and shut the fuck up.

Side: Prolifers.
1 point

No contest.

Even if one accepts the bizarre religious argument that aborting a fetus is murder, it is a quick death. It is also very probably a painless one given that the central nervous system has not yet developed.

In contrast to that, we have a situation where a baby has a mother who resents it and who can't cope with it. Perhaps she resents the father also. That baby is almost certainly going to grow up full of hate itself, and probably will hurt others as a result. Hence, pro-lifers propose ruining many lives as a solution to cutting one short before it begins.

Side: Prolifers.
StonedChimp(10) Disputed
0 points

Even if one accepts the bizarre religious argument that aborting a fetus is murder

The atheist’s case against abortion: respect for human rights

I am an atheist, a 29-year-old woman, well-educated at secular institutions, and I lean liberal on many issues, including same-sex marriage and climate change.

I am also a dedicated pro-life activist, working to make abortion unthinkable.

https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2017/10/19/atheists-case-against-abortion-respect-human-rights

Side: Prochoicers.
redhot(236) Disputed
1 point

Oh for God's sake shut your stupid face:-

The Christian Right and the Pro-Life Movement

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3511563?seq=1

The Bible teaches that all human life is created in God’s image and so is intrinsically valuable from conception.

Abortion – destroying life somewhere between conception and birth – is wrong. The Bible states that the deliberate taking of an innocent human life breaks the sixth commandment: “You shall not murder”

https://www.christian.org.uk/issue/abortion/

Trump is antiabortion. That alone explains why Christians favor him

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-10-18/trump-antiabortion-christians

Side: Prolifers.
1 point

You are not prolife, if you oppose my absolute right, to have healthcare. You are probirth.

Side: Prolifers.
StonedChimp(10) Disputed
0 points

That baby is almost certainly going to grow up full of hate itself, and probably will hurt others as a result.

Looks like we have spotted the source of your multiple mental disorders.

Side: Prochoicers.
redhot(236) Disputed
1 point

Looks like we have spotted the source of your multiple mental disorders.

Ahahahaha! The barefaced liar with 400 different accounts wants to talk about mental disorders. That's cute.

Side: Prolifers.
1 point

Who, is more cruel?

4 things are true all at one time:

Pro choicers kill babies.

Pro lifers don't kill babies.

Celibacy and protection do exist.

Your average pro lifer allows for extreme exceptions like rape.

Side: Prochoicers.
1 point

It is cruel to force a rape victim to give birth. it is cruel to deny end of life choice, because of feelings. it is a human rights violation, to oppose a woman's right, to her contraceptive choices. it is cruel, to be prolife, and oppose healthcare, as a human right. Prove that prolife even exists in Amerca, let alone, that you are an actual prolifer.

Side: Prolifers.
FrogofLondon(57) Disputed Banned
0 points

it is cruel, to be prolife, and oppose healthcare, as a human right.

If all of the doctors quit tomorrow due to healthcare being socialized, who would inforce this right and how?

Side: Prochoicers.
redhot(236) Disputed
1 point

4 things are true all at one time:

Pro choicers kill babies.

Like everything else you ever write you disgusting liar, that is not true. That is but yet another attempt by you to misuse language in order to create a fallacy.

We say someone has "had a baby" when they actually give birth. Before then the correct term is fetus. When a pregnancy is terminated we do not say the doctor has "killed a baby". Killing things is the opposite of what a doctor does.

You are a mentally unwell idiot Bronto.

Side: Prolifers.
FrogofLondon(57) Disputed Banned
1 point

Like everything else you ever write you disgusting liar, that is not true.

It is literally, objectively true. It's not chimps you are killing. It's human beings.

Side: Prochoicers.
1 point

Pro-choicers kill fewer babies

Pro-choicers kill fewer women

Side: Prolifers.
1 point

Bringing unwanted children WHO CANNOT BE CARED FOR, into the world is a crime against humanity.

In Africa alone some 94,000 people, half of whom are children die a painful and lingering death EVERY FIVE DAYS.

The sanctimonious virtue-signalers ignore these heartbreaking statistics in favor of showboating their glorious humanitarianism.

In effect they're nothing more than inhuman morons who haven't the ability, and/or the inclination to see what horrors their blinkered views cause in the world.

Side: Prochoicers.
redhot(236) Disputed
1 point

virtue-signalers

You can always tell when you learn a new word because you then proceed to use it in every single post for the next three months.

Side: Prolifers.
JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
1 point

Wouldn't that make pro-lifers more cruel?

Maybe I'm misreading.

Side: Prolifers.
FrogofLondon(57) Disputed Banned
1 point

Bringing unwanted children WHO CANNOT BE CARED FOR, into the world is a crime against humanity.

Then so is not using protection or practicing celibacy if you do not want or cannot care for a child.

Side: Prolifers.
redhot(236) Disputed
1 point

Then so is not using protection

No it isn't. Not unless we ban abortion. And who is it that wants to ban abortion? Oh yes, that's right. It's you.

Side: Prochoicers.