Who's More To Blame For the Economy of the United States
The President
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Its not just simply "the president" or "the congress" because the president, speaker of the house and other high up powers in the government often puppet, abuse, and trick the congress to their advantage, you see this in times when Nancy Pelosi says "you have to pass the bill so you can find out whats in it" Side: The President
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Lol.... We don't see eye to eye on practically anything. I, for one, think both congress and the president have blame and I could really respect just about anyway you want to go with it, but you seem to have a knack at finding bullshit non-arguments, no offense. If you would have said something, like well the President's the one with the veto power, I'd be like okay, I can buy that. Even if you said "well, the president has more influence over the media and is therefore able to sway more opinion", I might be able to go along with that. BUT you're argument is that the Congress is TRICKED. Any Congressman that comes back to my district telling his Constituent's that he full-grown man failed to the right thing because he was TRICKED is packing his bags. Simple as that. "If you're so naive that you can be tricked as such, you don't need to be in Congress" is what Democrat and Republican alike would say in my district. I know you call yourself a libertarian, but your views seem to be anything but. Part of being a Libertarian is the belief in individual responsibility (rather than government). It's about taking responsibility for yourself. "I'm sorry. I tried to do the right thing, but I was tricked" is not taking responsibility. That's what children say when they think they're about to get in trouble. Side: The Congress
United State's economic problems cannot be blamed on any specific unit. This is because an economy's performance is affected by the occurrences of an infinitesimal number of events that work together to facilitate certain results. Even now, the causes of the Great Depression nearly eighty years ago are still being analyzed and debated actively by economists. Was it just the crash of the stock market? or was it the dominance of a decade of bull marketing? Was it the banks' over-investments? or should the blame be put on the government's faulty strategies/policies? There are quite a few more factors that can be listed, but these should suffice in helping me prove my point. The answer is simple. None of them are solely or even largely responsible for the 1930's recession. The problem was caused by the combination of many integral factors and units. We could even factor the US middle class into the at-fault category (going-into-debt investments, aiding in overproduction, facilitating bankruns, etc.) In short, what we need to do is to analyze the problem reasonably and in terms of economics (because economics controls politics ;)). We cannot really blame any one office, unit, or person for all of our problems. That would be blatant scapegoating. I'd like to hear your thoughts too. :) Side: The Congress
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I hear exactly what you're saying and have felt the same thing every since I vote in my first election. I felt like neither Republicans nor Democrats were truly interested in change. They were simply interested in getting elected and holding the status quo of their parties. Your die-hard Republican is going to vote R no matter what. Your die-hard Democrat is going to vote D no mater. Unfortunately, that's the majority. There's maybe 10 per cent that thing both parties are out-of-line, but we don't have a lot of credible options. We really need to send both parties, but short of something drastic that's highly unlikely. Side: The Congress
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