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Carl Levin (D)


Jack Hoogendyk (R)

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Who should I vote for in the 2008 Michigan Senate Race?


Carl Levin (D)

Side Score: 31
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Jack Hoogendyk (R)

Side Score: 16
4 points

Sen. Levin supports a balanced approach to energy and the environment. He both understands the need for realistic, reliable approaches to America's immediate energy needs and also its long-term interest in energy independence and a healthy world for our children to inherit.

He summarizes the situation well and directly at his website's position page:

"As we move forward with a national energy policy, we need to ensure that we support policies that will decrease our dependence on foreign oil, reduce climate change emissions, and protect our national energy security but at the same time promote renewable energy sources, environmentally responsible domestic production, and tax incentives for energy efficiency and advanced automobile technology."

Moreover, Levin walks the talk in his balanced voting record. Ontheissues.org notes that the Michigan Senator voted YES on tax incentives for both energy production and conservation. he is realistic enough and courageous enough to back continuing oil and gas exploration subsidies even while also protecting the environment in vulnerable areas such as Alaska's ANWR region.

Supporting Evidence: Levin Senate issues site (levin.senate.gov)
Side: Energy policy
3 points

As a state with one of the highest levels of unemployment in the country, Michigan yearns for leadership that can stabilize it's economy. Since 2001, Michiganites have been reeling under the loss of nearly 3 million manufacturing jobs nationwide which has served to further increase the number of unemployed.

Levin addresses the problem by suggesting that the government give an immediate tax break to every working family of $1200 and allow all small business to write off any equipment purchased to loosen belts and open up more jobs.

Levin on fixing Bush's mistakes
Side: Fixing the economy
3 points

Since last year, Levin has been working openly against Bush to bring the troops home. It was Levin who co-authored the proposal to bring the troops home with Senator Jack Reed last September and he is still pushing with ferocity.

Last April, he faced General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker with questions about the "success" in Iraq and put the mistakes of the Bush administration on the table.

Levin addressing the senate and Petraeus:

"This new increase in violence raises questions about the military success of the surge, but more significantly, the PURPOSE of the surge as announced by President Bush last year, which was to give the Iraqi leaders "breathing room" to work out a settlement has not been achieved."

Levin is one of the key senators behind US progression out of Iraq and an architect for the plan to clean up the mess we made. In this time when tempers between the US and the middle east are strained, what Americans need now is an educated diplomat like Levin.

Levin attacks Bush's foreign policy
Side: Global relations
2 points

At the Democratic National Convention this morning (Aug. 27) during the Michigan delegation breakfast, three prominent Michigan politicians, Governor Jennifer Granholm, Sen. Debbie Stabenow, and Sen. Carl Levin, took the floor to present some of their state's most urgent issues to the leaders of the Democratic Party.

Carl Levin highlighted the failed economic policies and trade agreements of the Bush administration that have hurt Michigan's manufacturing by shipping jobs overseas. Levin has campaigned on the promise to give a much-needed boost to Michigan's manufacturing sector. A promise, he claims, that can be made possible with Obama as president:

“A partner that will fight for manufacturing in America, for jobs in America, for health care in America, for education in America."

Supporting Evidence: Before the Democratic Party (www.statenews.com)
Side: Before the Democratic Party
1 point

Two weeks ago, Carl Levin announced with fellow Michigan senator Debbie Stabenow that long-desired federal funding for the Detroit and Muskegon detention centers for reentrance and inmate rehabilitation has finally been acquired. $514,251 will go to the Bridge to Success Transitional Jobs Program of the Detroit Workforce Development Department and the Jail Diversion and Reentry Pilot Project of Muskegon County as part of the recidivism reduction program and to help offenders find job placement once rehabilitated and out of prison.

This is a fantastic step forward for Michigan prisons as the number of prisoners since 1973 increased seven-fold and has higher incarceration rates than U.S. and Great Lakes area averages. Michigan also has lower admissions rates because of recidivism and the largest part of state expenditures go towards corrections. Said Levin: "*“This will aid Muskegon and Detroit in their fight to reduce crime in their communities. We depend on local law enforcement every day and these grants will help each community prevent crime before it starts.”

Supporting Evidence: Levin wins funding to end recidivism (levin.senate.gov)
Side: Fixing prisons
1 point

Senator Levin and his colleague, Senator Lautenberg recently called upon Condoleeza Rice to address the issue of settlement obligations to the American victims of terrorism during her upcoming trip to Libya.

The two primary acts of Libyan terrorism, the Pan Am 103 bombing over Scotland and the 1986 Labelle discotheque in Germany, amongst a few others, have yet to be compensated for by the Libyan government. The act outlining the agreed payment and terms by both America and Libya is called, The Libyan Claims Resolution Act. The senators wrote Rice outlining their concerns and pushing her to remind Libyan officials of their agreement to American compensation.

Senators Levin and Lautenberg:“As the first Secretary of State to visit Libya in more than fifty years, we urge you to focus your trip on prevailing on the Government of Libya to fulfill the settlement obligations it has made to American victims of Libyan terrorism. Passage of the Libyan Claims Resolution Act signaled to the Government of Libya the U.S. Congress’s willingness to allow the normalization of U.S.-Libyan bilateral relations to move forward once the August 14, 2008 agreement is fully implemented. Accordingly, we expect that a primary purpose of your trip will be to press the Libyans to follow through on this agreement.”

Supporting Evidence: Senator Levin urges Rice to make good on Libyan promise (lautenberg.senate.gov)
Side: Carl Levin
1 point

As chairman of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Carl Levin (D) is putting his crosshairs on financial institutions who exploit loose regulations on stock swaps and loans to avoid paying taxes. The main player in the situation is the Internal Revenue Service and Treasury Department whom, Levin argues, "won't say stop and won't say go. Everyone is waiting for the IRS to make up its mind."

Levin criticized that the unlawful marketing of stock swaps and loans by companies such as Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank, and Lehman Brothers had cost the government an estimated $100 billion a year according to a report released by the committee.

Douglass Shulman, the IRS Commissioner, defended the IRS in the case by arguing that some of the organizations who testified may be attempting to interpret the regulations on stock swaps and loans to justify their practices.

However, he stopped short of admitting that the practice of using stock swaps and loans to avoid taxes was, in fact, illegal.

""We're dealing with major financial players said. Presumably they don't want to be on the wrong end of the law," Levin said.

The case is a notable topic to be aware of in this election year as we face a declining economy and a time that demands higher ethical standards as well as tighter regulations on large financial institutions and corporations.

Supporting Evidence: Levin Hitting Hard Against Tax Dodgers (www.iht.com)
Side: Levin Hitting Hard Against Tax Dodgers
1 point

Levin Offers 2 Ways to Improve the Economy

Levin blames the Bush administration’s policies for the loss of 250,000 manufacturing jobs in Michigan. Levin blames American involvement in Iraq, rising health care costs, and foreclosures for further economic hardship. Levin, in this video offers two solutions. The American Manufacturing Initiative](http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=274509)) would supposedly create jobs for those manufacturers that lost jobs over the past few years. The resources devoted to the war could be redirected into the economy with the Levin-Reed Amendment. The plan would redeploy troops out of Iraq and let the Iraqis take responsibility for their government.

On the Issues
Side: Economy
1 point

Levin on Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran

Iraq

Levin advocates a withdrawal from Iraq. He believes that American troops should take a supporting role rather than a combative role in Iraq. Levin wants a timetable with benchmarks for the Iraqis should meet. “It’s long overdue that we force the Iraqis to take responsibility for their own government.”

Afghanistan

American troops will be needed in Afghanistan, but other countries should fulfill their NATO commitment to Afghanistan.

Iran

If Iran continues to be a military threat, America should place sanctions on Iran and prevent American companies and its subsidiaries from doing business.

On the Issues
Side: Foreign Policy
1 point

Levin Cites Differences Between Iraq Policies, But Evades Questions About Dovish Concerns

At the 4 minute mark of the video below, Democracy Now! interviewed Carl Levin, who serves on the Senate Armed Service Committee. He was asked how Obama’s foreign plans would be different from President Bush’s. Levin says that Obama’s plan recognizes the importance of allies, whereas Bush has been arrogant and too willing to be divisive.

Levin, however, sidesteps two critical questions. Foreign policy doves criticize the Obama campaign for including “hawkish Democrats [from] the 90s” and the fact that

Biden voted for the war in Iraq.

On the Issues
Side: Foreign Policy
1 point

Levin Legislation Targets Oil Speculators

Levin spearheaded theOver-The-Counter Speculation Act that would address 3 loopholes that prevented the Commodities Futures Trading Commission from regulation oil transactions. His study commission found that speculators raised the price by 30%.

(1) The bill would close the “Enron loophole”, which exempted energy futures from regulation.

(2) Computer transactions done in the US but are in London market would be under US jurisdiction.

(3) Over the counter oil transactions would likewise be under review by the CFTC.

On the Issues
Side: Carl Levin
1 point

Levin on Fuel Economy and Jobs

Michigan is the heart of the U.S automotive industry. As such the loss of auto manufacturing jobs and environmental concerns are matters on the minds of many in Detroit. In terms of the environment, Levin supported the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which seeks to raise Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards to 35mpg by 2020. The bill also included a little known provision that would protect domestic manufacturing jobs from “backsliding.” The bill, however, in itself does nothing to create new jobs for those who have lost jobs.

Supporting Evidence: On the Issues (levin.senate.gov)
Side: Economy
1 point

Levin Supports Several Measures that Would Connect the Auto Industry with the Defense Department

Levin, who serves on the Senate Armed Service Committee, has sought to forge a relationship between Michigan’s auto industry and the U.S. military. The senator wrote the National Defense Authorization Act, which divided the cost between the private and public sectors in developing a fuel cell and new vehicle propulsion technology. He has secured funding for the Vehicle Fuel Cell and Hydrogen Logistics Program, a hybrid engine development program at the Army's Tank Automotive Research and Development Command (TARDEC).

Supporting Evidence: On the Issues (levin.senate.gov)
Side: Economy
1 point

Levin Supports the Earned Income Tax Credit

Many believe that everyone in America should exercise personal responsibility. Levin’s support of the Earned Income Tax Credit is a way to get the poor off of welfare and transition them into work. Levin claims that the tax credit has lifted 4 million Americans out of poverty. The credit allows to poor to pay for food, rent, and education. As the measure is essentially a tax break, Republicans and Democrats alike should support it.

Supporting Evidence: On the Issues (levin.senate.gov)
Side: Economy
1 point

Levin Drinks Clean Water

The Great Lakes supply much of Michigan’s drinking water and fish. However, over recent years the quality of the water has been compromised by pollution from DDT and PCBs. Levin wrote the Great Lakes Critical Programs Act, which raised quality standards and sought to clean the most polluted areas. Further water-cleaning bills that he has supported include the Harmful Algal Bloom and Hypoxia Amendments Act of 2004, the Great Lakes Water Quality Indicators & Monitoring Act, and the Great Lakes Initiative.

Supporting Evidence: On the Issues (levin.senate.gov)
Side: Environment
1 point

Levin Supports But Wants to Reform No Child Left Behind

Levin believes that smaller classes, after-school programs, and technology-influenced education should all continue to be a part of every student’s education. However, the incumbent is concerned about an overemphasis on testing. He worries that testing may not necessarily lead to smarter students or creative teaching. He also will reauthorize the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, which would require Congress to fund 40% of special education costs. Levin would also provide more funding for the federal program.

Supporting Evidence: On the Issues (levin.senate.gov)
Side: Education
1 point

Levin Supports Cutting Taxes – But Not in Bush’s Way

Senator Levin supports a tax plan that would give “every working family of four would have received an immediate tax cut of $1,200.” Businesses would also benefit. They would be able to write off more capital such as equipment from their budgets. By supporting such significant tax cuts it appears difficult for economically conservative Republicans to castigate Levin as a tax and spend liberal. Levin, however, did not support the Bush tax cuts and believes in taxing the wealthy instead of the majority of Americans.

Supporting Evidence: On the Issues (levin.senate.gov)
Side: Economy
1 point

The last EPIC-MRA poll showed Levin (D) with a 56 to 28 percentage point lead over Jack Hoogendyk (R) in the Michigan Senate race. The poll was taken for the Detroit News and television stations and was based on 602 telephone interviews with potential voters. The sampling error is marked at plus or minus 4 percentage points.

I realize that these numbers can be misleading, inconsistent, and (honestly) quite annoying. But beneath the numbers you can get a sense of the very fundamental dynamics at play in some of these elections. With this race, I think one massive hurdle that Hoogendyk has yet to overcome (and, I'd argue, doesn't have the time left to pull it off) is gathering enough public recognition to even present a worthy challenge to Levin.

In this case, a series of televised debates between the two would benefit Hoogendyk just by having his name printed on television sets around the state. All the same, a 28-point deficit is a steep mountain to climb for the Republican, especially with a little over a month until the ballots are cast.

Supporting Evidence: Publicity Advantage (www.mlive.com)
Side: Publicity Advantage
1 point

Michigan Senators Carl Levin (R) along with Debbie Stabenow have made a proposal to the Senate that will allow states and non-profit organizations to apply for grants that will enable them "to restore and maintain" historic lighthouses, according to the Chicago Tribune.

The program, if approved, will offer $20 million per year for three years for states who hold historic lighthouses to insure their durability and structural stability as well as appearance.

According to the article, "Michigan has more lighthouses than any other state."

Supporting Evidence: Saving Lighthouses (www.chicagotribune.com)
Side: Saving Lighthouses
1 point

Levin Votes for Bailout

Levin condemned the Bush administration and deregulation advocates on the Senate floor last night. He stated,

"Wall Street has run amok with greed while the Bush Administration and others urged them on in the name of deregulation. As in the run-up to the Great Depression, our free markets are running wild. We’ve reduced capital requirements, removed the authority of the Securities and Exchange Commission to regulate swaps, and speculators took over the majority of some commodity trading, like oil."

Levin went on to explain that the crisis will effect the financial pot holes on Main Street that the crisis may cause,

"If we fail to take action, pensions and savings could quickly be decimated by a wrecked stock market, and Americans could suffer with significant job losses and less ability to buy everything from groceries to a new car or house. Small businesses and even large ones are likely to see their access to capital further reduced, home mortgages could become even more difficult to acquire or refinance, foreclosures could further skyrocket, and auto and student loans could be much more difficult to get. Construction jobs would likely disappear, automakers would cut back even further on production and lay off workers, and retail and service jobs would be cut. Retirees who are counting on a 401(k) or other type of pension would see their nest eggs shattered. If the stock market crashes, investments – even those made years or decades ago in supposedly “safe” assets – would be drowned."

Levin also highlighted arguably nongermane provisions in the current bill including tax incentives for alternative energy production, limiting the alternative minimum tax, and a mental health parity provision.

Supporting Evidence: Yes to Bailout (levin.senate.gov)
Side: Bailout

It is more clear, with every passing day, that what the country needs is to do is rid itself of any remnant of the Republican platform of the last eight years- and I don't care what any member of the GOP says about themselves and how different they are from Bush, to me they are all the same, and have lost any and all credibility. Just look at what happened today, both here and abroad- as the end result of the "trickle down" effect, de-regulating, greed is good type of thinking, we are looking at the very real possibility of another Great Depression dead in the eye- Thanks Gipper! Seriously, Carl Levin is a seasoned, powerful Democrat, a senior senator who is chair of the armed services committee who has proven himself time and again as a servant of both Michigan and America. I am confidant he will demand justice and accountability from the corporate world in the days to come, and in the next session of congress.

Supporting Evidence: Levin Study on Corporate Responsibility (www.huffingtonpost.com)
Side: Carl Levin
1 point

Last month, the Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) named Sen. Carl Levin (D) the September Porker of the Month on account of his attempt "to give earmarks contained in committee reports the force of law" according to Forbes.com.

The Forbes report claims that Levin has a long history of earmark requests. The numbers include "255 earmarks for a total of $301.4 million, which made him the eleventh biggest porker in the Senate."

The earmark that earned Levin the award came with his attempt to earmark the S. 3001 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2009, which was tallied to contain nearly $5.9 billion worth of earmarks.

Supporting Evidence: September Porker of the Month (www.forbes.com)
Side: September Porker of the Month
4 points

An old-fashioned conservative Republican is refreshing after eight gut-wrenching years of new terms to describe destructive government (i.e. neocon), and Jack Hoogendyk is just that.

He very plainly states where he stands on a number of issues in clear, bulleted print. From jackformichigan.org:

I support making the current tax relief permanent. Taxes are too high.

Business taxes must be lowered to provide more investment in Michigan's economy.

I support permanently eliminating the death tax.

I support free trade that mirrors the trade policies of other nations.

I have never voted for a tax increase and never will.

I support right to work legislation that allows employees the freedom to decide whether they will join a union and pay dues or not.

I am opposed to the "card check" bill which takes away a workers right to a private ballot on union membership votes.

He is straightforward, straight-shooting and upfront with his principles.

The return of the conservative
Side: Conservative
1 point

These days it seems Hoogendyk is right in step with the "old-fashioned" conservative Republican movement that has turned its devotion to candidates such as Ron Paul out of frustration with the expanding power lust exhibited by Republicans under the Bush Administration.

In a recent Q & A, Hoogendyk fielded a question regarding oil company profit margins during the 2nd quarter during which many American's lost their homes and have suffered under rising gas prices:

"I have no problem with the oil companies profit margins (they are lower than telecommunications companies/pharmaceutical companies). Oil companies have about a 9% profit margin. They pay dividends, they hire more employees, they give raises and bonuses, they spend billions in exploration. A tax on profits will lead them to off-shore their money and then pay no taxes (look at the Carter years). You can’t regulate how much profit someone makes."

However, the Republican hopeful is surprisingly quiet about his position regarding the war in Iraq, a position that is a key motivating factor behind a good portion of the more libertarian push for nonintervention.

Hoogendyk would benefit by claiming a clear opposition to the war in Iraq and endorsing a timely troop withdrawal. Such a move has potential to help pull Michigan's independent votes and perhaps some Democrats who are frustrated with the current deadlock on Capital Hill.

Supporting Evidence: Q and A (onemom.wordpress.com)
Side: Q and A
3 points

Hoogendyk has an energy policy based on patriotic common sense. U.S. energy needs can be met almost immediately without reliance on unproven pie-in-the-sky "alternative" technologies or asking us to surrender the quality of life which Americans have worked hard to enjoy.

As he notes at jackformichigan.org, "Did you know we buy much of our oil from countries like Saudia Arabia (home of nineteen 9/11 terrorists), Russia (home of the former KGB agent Vladimir Putin), Iran (home of nuclear threat Mahmoud Ahmadinejad), Venezuela (Hugo Chavez), and other unstable countries like Chad, Libya, and Angola?"

Instead, Hoogendyk supports offshore drilling and opening up Alaskan areas that would meet our energy needs without dependence on foreign oil.

Supporting Evidence: JackforMichigan.org (www.jackformichigan.org)
Side: Energy policy
1 point

On two issues of major importance to voters in the recent past, Senator Levin has been disappointing. He voted to reauthorize the Patriot Act and against ending the war in Iraq by mid-2007. Hoogendyk appears to be a neocon who currently supports government intrusion in these and other ways, but there will be better choices on the ballot in case he is not convinced by election day to change his mind and Levin does not admit he was wrong to even indirectly support Bush's policies.

Side:
Jack Hoogendyk (R)
1 point

Mike Huckabee announced his endorsement of Jack Hoogendyk earlier this month on his blog, HUCK PAC. This blog was recently set up by the Governor Huckabee to help support all Republican candidates running for office who are "passionate about tax reform, ending immigration and securing the nation."

Of Hoogendyk, HUCK PAC says: "I am confident he will work hard for those conservative issues in the United States Senate. Jack supports making the current tax relief permanent, lowering business taxes to provide more investments in Michigan’s economy, permanently eliminating the death tax, and a free trade policy that mirrors the trade policies of other nations. He also strongly supports opening up American oil fields for further exploration while protecting the environment, and the expansion of nuclear energy."

Supporting Evidence: Republicans endorsing each other (www.jackformichigan.org)
Side: Conservative
1 point

Hoogendyk and His Benighted Conception of Energy Independence

In the video below, Hoogendyk states, “The fact that we’re depending on foreign producers – some of whom don’t like us – is not a good thing. It’s time for us to start producing our own domestic oil.” This strategy so defined either needs amendment or it needs to be thrown out. America imports most of its oil from non-militant countries. Canada, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia (a country that is highly cooperative with the U.S.) are the top 3 American oil importers. Drilling in America would do little to stem the power of autocratic petro-regimes because even if the U.S. produces its own oil, developing countries such as China and India will continue filling their coffers.

On the Issues
Side: Energy policy
1 point

Hoogendyk: Less Government = More Private Growth

Hoogendyk believes that with less government the economy will grow. The Republican candidate goes further and states, “As government grows, the private sector shrinks, and jobs are lost, and the economy suffers.” This claim, however, is not necessarily true, as recent events do not bear this out. With the Bush administration’s lifting of taxes and relief of regulation, the private sector has existed within an unfettered economic environment. Yet this freedom has resulted in a disastrous private sector. Unemployment stands at 6.1%, foreclosures are running rampant, the federal government has taken over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and a number of investment banks have either gone bankrupt or been bailed out.

On the Issues
Side: Economy
1 point

Hoogendyk is Unimaginative and Ideological About Economic Policy

On Hoogendyk’s campaign website, he states that he would make “current tax relief” (i.e. the Bush 2001 and 2003 tax cuts) permanent. He would eliminate the estate tax. He states, “I have never voted for a tax increase and never will.” Such a categorical stance would lead to a collapse of current government programs, including funding national security issues such as Iraq and Afghanistan. More armor and expanded health care coverage of veterans would have no money. Also, his goal of balancing the deficit would be impossible to achieve without more funding.

Supporting Evidence: On the Issues (www.jackformichigan.org)
Side: Economy
1 point

Jack Hoogendyk (R) has released a video that (he hopes) will be a much-needed publicity boost in his campaign to unseat Sen. Carl Levin (D) and perhaps further motivate Levin to participate in a "primetime, televised, town hall-style debate".

Hoogendyk is wanting to get his stance on no tax increases, his votes against increased government spending, and his support for specific bills in the state legislature to the political awareness of any potential voters he can maybe convince to back him up in November.

The video then (after a minute of Hoogendyk running through his own track record) proceeds to attack the Senator for his support of tax increases, failed deficit budget plans, and his opposition to "domestic oil production". Yet, the nail that Hoogendyk wants to drive into the Michigan voter's mind is Levin's support of partial birth abortion.

The video itself is bereft of any flashing media or gimmicks opting rather to present the candidate in a very informal, low-quality production that, I assume, helps to relate Hoogendyk to the "average voter".

Hoogendyk Challenge
Side: Hoogendyk Challenge
0 points

"I agree more with John McCain than George Bush about (Russian Prime Minister Vladimir) Putin. Bush said he looked into Putin's eyes and saw a man he could trust. McCain said he saw three letters: KGB."

John Hoogendyk (R) has backed a motion to invite the president of Georgia to speak before a joint session of Congress and that more should be done to deter the recent Russian invasion of the former Soviet Union republic.

He supports Georgia's addition to NATO membership in order to discourage the Russian aggression.

It may wreak of political opportunism to make such an obvious claim separating yourself from the Bush administration at this point, but I can't deny it's efficiency in attracting the attention of centrist or right-leaning voters.

Supporting Evidence: Jack and John (www.themorningsun.com)
Side: Jack and John
themrs42(1) Disputed
1 point

The president of Georgia should speak but not only to Congress but the United Nations and offer an apology to the entire world for starting the aggression in the first place. Since when do we condone invasion over peaceful negotiations?

Why do most people blame this on Russia? Maybe they overreacted, yes, but

notice everyone, Georgia started the whole episode with violence. Would we stand by idly if Whitehorse in comparison decided they wanted Alaska and tried

to take it forcefully?

Side: Carl Levin