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We love Ismaila, be nice Don't put up with her nonsense
Debate Score:263
Arguments:176
Total Votes:356
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Who the hell is Ismaila?

 

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Can somebody please tell me that?  She is really being a pain in my ass today. I'm just trying to drop some logic on her, and all I get is banned from her debate. I mean wtf, how am I suppose to pick apart her silly arguments if I can't express myself? I call shinanigans on that.


What do you think?

We love Ismaila, be nice

Side Score: 127
VS.

Don't put up with her nonsense

Side Score: 136
6 points

Well... I've known Isma longer than the rest of you and I've been blocked by her on Sodahead.com more than once and on Facebook but.... meh? Who cares? It's the internet and I don't hold grudges... plus she helps liven up this place a little.

(And it's a good thing this isn't her debate as I'd probably be banned, LOL)

Side: We love Ismaila, be nice
Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

Au contraire mon cher. Je ne pourrais jamais te bannir. ;)

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timber113(796) Disputed
0 points

Cant tell if you really speak french or if your showing off

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2 points

Another fake drama scenario? Do we really have to do this?!

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

This is not fake. I was really pissed off in the beginning, but he started to grow on me. He is irresistible. ;)

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judas(295) Disputed
0 points

Yes, we have to do this.

Thanks for continuing the saga of Judas and Ismaila with your post. Do you have any more questions I can answer for you?

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Akulakhan(2973) Disputed
0 points

Yes quite, will there be an itinerary for the proceeding?

Side: We love Ismaila, be nice
2 points

The battle is over. I have come to respect Judas, because he is intellectual, consistent, and he stands up for what he believes in.

Side: We love Ismaila, be nice
2 points

I tried to use logic and insightful arguments against her but it didn't work. In the end, she decided to crush my will to debate with her flattery. Very clever, Ismaila. I didn't see that coming ;)

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1 point

Blushing. I can't help it. You are starting to grow on me. You are quite irresistible. ;)

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1 point

Dear Judas,

Ismaila is definitely her own person. In ways I love her and in ways I am not so sure. Here is what I would recommend. I just launched petitions on the site. Why don't you create a petition to support Ismaila "not" banning you from her debates. Banning should be a last resort for stopping spammers or the extremely offensive folks from continuing to post...not the logical ones. Maybe she will take the results of the petition to heart!

Andy

Side: We love Ismaila, be nice
2 points

Alright, I'll try it. Maybe a petition will melt her icy, emotionless heart ;)

You hear that Ismaila? Andy knows what I'm talking about. "Last resort", he says. "not the logical ones" he says.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

Bring it on. This is fun. ;)

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addltd(5120) Clarified
1 point

Apparently Ismaila is more of her "own person" than I originally guessed...not a bad thing, just what it is!

Andy

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1 point

You have already melted my heart. ;)

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

Self moderated. ;'(

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SovietSpy(709) Clarified
0 points

Where can I find those petitions? Mr.Andy???????????????????

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addltd(5120) Clarified
0 points

They are in the main navigation right below the CreateDebate logo on the upper left. Go to Petitions, All Petitions and browse away...or add your own!

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-2 points
judas(295) Disputed
2 points

What the fuck is this? Pussies who cannot debate are starting shit.

My, what strong language. Do you "support love" with that mouth?

It seems like you were just saying something to that other guy you banned like "Can you make a factual argument without using ad hominims? I can."

In the last couple hours you've called several people, including myself, "pussies" and "cunts". You seem pretty good at breaking your own rules. Maybe you should just go for a walk and cool down a bit before you hurt yourself.

Now you are mass down voting all my arguments. That's really classy. If you are so wonderful at debate, why don't you use your words instead of banning people, posting obscenities, and mass down voting?

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
-2 points
Oiden(396) Disputed
2 points

Your rules, someone brings up a good point or starts beating you in a debate you wuss out, that is what i have seen from reading debates.

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Undoubt(8) Disputed
1 point

Lol fascist alert.

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Side: We love Ismaila, be nice
1 point

I see you trolling, you hating, you trolling cause your mind is dirty! ;)

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1 point

Your idea of logic is defending someone calling me a retard because I called them on their antigay bigotry? Oh mon Dieu, vous avez à me faire marcher.

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1 point

I've never met this "Ismaila" girl; but you sir sound like a bit of a cry-baby whining about her. Seriously, grow a pair dude and get off her back.

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judas(295) Disputed
0 points

But................................. she banned me. Me; Judas. How dare she.

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Taqwacore(667) Clarified
2 points

Well, you are DEAD. I'd be banning you too! Dead people do kind of smell a bit in the heat. And....weren't you, Judas, a bit of a backstabber?

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

THAT is your argument?! Facepalm. ;)

Side: We love Ismaila, be nice

Okay, hey, hey, calm down. Ismaila's just another debater. In a debate you keep...your...cool.

Side: We love Ismaila, be nice
1 point

She is a person that used to be on but a lot of people didn't like her because of her views on certain things.

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1 point

Seems pretty cool to me... Or maybe because I'm on her good side? I dunno ask this again in a few months lol.

Side: We love Ismaila, be nice
1 point

Self moderated. ;'(

Side: We love Ismaila, be nice
7 points

She actually does unjustly ban alot of people. At least when she was on a while ago. But really there is no need to make a whole debate about it because she hurt your feelings...

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8 points

She actually does unjustly ban alot of people. At least when she was on a while ago.

She still does that.

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tigerseye(44) Disputed
4 points

Shut up Cuaroc. Ismaila is a heck of a lot nicer than you,dur-de-durr.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
-3 points
judas(295) Disputed
5 points

It's not about my hurt feelings. This is about truth, justice and free expression. I have a dream that one day my children's posts will be judged on the content of their text, rather than the color of their state. I believe that all posts are created equal, with an inalienable right to be read. We must stand up against Ismaila's tyrannical hold on this website and fight for what is right, though any means necessary! We will not go quietly into that good night. We will not be silenced! Rage, rage against the dying of the light!

Or you know, whatever. It was just one little incident. I don't really care that much......

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The Phantom(453) Disputed
2 points

People shouldn't be banned for for only disagreeing with an opinion, if they have a good argument. She does ban people for just disagreeing alot, but im not sure if you're still on that whole "church of judas" thing. Cuz that would be a good reason for her to ban you.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

You said, and I quote, "She banned me, how dare she. I am Judas." That, my dear adversary, is not a logical argument. ;)

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

"I don't really care that much." Mon cher, l'adversaire, je crois que vous mentez. Si vous n'avez pas de soins, vous n'auriez pas posté ce débat et a commencé cette pétition. Vous vous souciez plus que vous voulez l'admettre. ;)

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3 points

I've only come across her since her return she has some good points in her debates but unfortunatly she also comes across as being very angry and this seems to cloud her judgement sometimes, she is a bit too quick to ban people instead of debating them and has banned people who have actually been supporting her arguments to me this seems to be the anger clouding her judgement. Get the anger under control and I think she could be good at debating people and also insulting people for disagreeing is never a good tactic, keep the anger under control keep the insults down and I think she will earn peoples respect.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

You would be angry too if you were treated like shit most of your life.

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TheAshman(2299) Disputed
2 points

But allowing your anger free reign so it impedes your judgement does not help especially in debates, while debating you need to keep a clear head to find the faults and weaknesses in your opponents argument and enabling you to bring him down, the same with insults if your opponent insults you fine gloves off time, if you insult someone who is just debating you then your argument is lost as they will not respect you.

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Niko(127) Disputed
1 point

"I've been treated like shit most of my life, I should take it out on others." Is that what you're basically saying? If so, then I feel bad for you. I would and still do feel sad to hear that this has happened to you because I can relate. But just because I feel like I should be more irritable towards others doesn't meant that I should act out on it. It helps when I try not to be angry, otherwise, I treated like shit even more :/

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2 points

She is an asswipe but what do you expect from an under educated over opinionated bitch?

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TheAshman(2299) Disputed
3 points

Very clever argument, assumption and insults, I applaud you very intelligent debate!!!

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
0 points

Undoubt says "She is an asswipe but what do you expect from an under educated over opinionated bitch?" My rebuttal: It is kind of sexist for men to attack women for being confident and opinionated. At least I have the balls to defend my beliefs. Oh, and that is Miss Bitch to you.

Side: We love Ismaila, be nice
2 points

Thank you Judas we thank you for making this debate, ismalia is starting to piss me off because she called me an anti gay bigot and said fuck off. I was trying to be nice but all she said was that I was wrong. She couldn't even say what is wrong with it. I don't care if gays get married so I am not a bigot. You got my support.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
0 points

You are the one who said that gays choose to be gay. That is bigoted antigay propaganda. Stop whining and educate yourself.

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SovietSpy(709) Disputed
2 points

Actually prove it, don't just say that I am wrong actually prove it, provide evidence

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
0 points

You are the bigot who compared gays to serial killers. :(

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2 points

She's a delusional moron. Seriously, being delusional is one thing but to ban people from debates simply because they have different opinions, especially if those opinions are actually in accordance with reality. And disputing the person after banning... we had one prick like that not too long ago, probably was a troll judging from the arguments the person gave...

Anyway, you're pathetic. All you give many of us is constant repetition of how messed up some people can be. When you left you should've stayed away, for your own sake. Hearing from other people that you are messed up would normally be a good thing, it'd give you some thinking material, something to learn from and so to change yourself for the better. But you clearly lack that capacity, considering you've been here before and even then you were a mess.

What are you doing here, on this site? Debating is primarily about learning and improving ones mind (never mind the trolls...), and that is something you very clearly do not want to do.

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2 points

And as you can see above she wines a lot.

Ismaila is either a troll, a child, or a person with mental issues.

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it just is nonsense. that is all i can say right now. please dont say anything about this post

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
0 points

"Please don't say anything about this post." Are you scared?

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warrior(1854) Disputed
3 points

Maybe he just wants to share his opinion without you attacking him. And I don't mean argue I mean attack.

Side: Don't put up with her nonsense
1 point

She deserves to be treated with respect like any other person. But perhaps she would not like to be banned like she banns everyone else, Yes?? Get my drift, Yes?

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1 point

All I'm saying is put down the ban hammer and debate that's what the sight is for after all

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1 point

Honestly, the more aggravating aspect of Ismaila banning everyone who disagrees is that I keep writing responses that actually address the points I disagree with but can never get responses back because they get banned. Good subject material but I am finding that I cannot actually have a discussion on any subjects moderated by Ismaila.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
2 points

I do not ban everyone who disagrees. Just the bigots. If they said "I personally believe this because", I would not be so angry, but when they say "gays are disgusting", "gays are not normal" etc., I get pissed. It would be equally wrong for me to say "all straights are bastards".

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1 point

probably some troll.

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1 point

I'm pretty sure she knows full well what she's doing. She's a troll and she's enjoying every bit of it.

If not, then I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
0 points

Got proof ?

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VecVeltro(412) Disputed
2 points

Eyewitness testimony, others can verify.

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1 point

I've come to the conclusion that Ismaila is rucking ridiculous.

A. She calls peoples words anti propaganda if they have an opinion other than hers. (She's bisexual she MUST know everything there is to know about it, SIKE)

End of story.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

If you are going to imply the F Word, use it, unless you say nucking futs, because that is funny. ;)

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
0 points

You are wrong. I only accuse people of propaganda if they are actually guilty.

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Lynaldea(1231) Disputed
1 point

What am I guilty of your highness? lol Please enlighten me with your glorious words.

Get off your fucking high horse.

Many many people do not give a shit what you are and why you are. I know I do not.

And so, please spare me with your drivel about "anti gay propaganda" and understand that you're not a victim sweetheart.

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1 point

who the heck is her????!!!!! I don't even know her.... and I never saw or heard of her too. so it's all your imagination mister!!!!!!!!!!!

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1 point

A troll...................................................................................................................

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1 point

How the bloody Hell does this have 200+ arguments? Isn't it all opinionated? If you have something against her, good for you. If you don't, good for you! Just because you don't like her really makes no means to create an entire debate about it.

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judas(295) Disputed
1 point

How the bloody Hell does this have 200+ arguments?

Congratulations on being the 231'st poster! Thank you for reading this entire soap opera and deciding to comment on it. It's users like yourself that keep debates like this alive and well!

You win! Thanks for playing! Come back next time!

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1 point

Go Judas! :)

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1 point

Go Judas! :)

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Julius(201) Disputed
1 point

Thank you for your sarcasm! Please, do continue with it.

On a serious note: is this website not about debating in a civilized and well produced manner? Not bashing members and and being immature? Drama should stay this.

Beside, Judas, aren't you a bit of a ..backstabber? (Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.)

Soviet Spy and Kozlov would approve of this post!

Side: Don't put up with her nonsense

For that reason i never go on any more of her deabates, I post my own quality debates and i keep her bigotry off of them. i suggest doing the same if you really want to get her to change.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

I am not a bigot. You are. You are just angry that I called you on YOUR bigotry, you fucking cunt. You think that disabled people should be killed making you a fascist bigot.

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Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

Judas and I are friends, you jackass. Unlike you, he deserves to be respected.

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