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Washington Marx
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Who was a worse Person, George Washington or Karl Marx?

Washington: Owned 300 slaves, slaughtered Native Americans, lied to get more power, stole land from his own soldiers.
Marx: Came up with theories you don't like.

Washington

Side Score: 14
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Marx

Side Score: 15

But WAIT!!

Marx was a lazy jobless loafer!!!!

Who wrote at least 19 different books.

And edited a newspaper.

And worked as a journalist in London for over a decade.

And wrote 365 articles for The New York Daily Tribune.

And founded the International Working Men's Association.

And had a PhD in philosophy.

And wrote literally hundreds more brochures and articles for various publications.

Side: Washington
Dermot(5736) Disputed
1 point

But WAIT!!

Marx was a lazy jobless loafer!!!!

True , Engels paid the bills while the loafer sat at home writing his nonsense

Who wrote at least 19 different books.

Which no one has really read including you , I think the only people ever to fully read capital and implement his “ grand plan “ to a tee were “ uncle Joe “ and Mao

And edited a newspaper.

And worked as a journalist in London for over a decade.

And wrote 365 articles for The New York Daily Tribune.

Engels wrote most the articles as Marx like you had atrocious English

And founded the International Working Men's Association.

Very popular in Stalinist Russia I’m told

And had a PhD in philosophy.

Which proved fuck all use to the wastrel as he never worked a day in his bone idle life

And wrote literally hundreds more brochures and articles for various publications.

Which no one read

Remember also , he raped his maid , drove two of his kids to suicide , pissed away and gambled three family fortunes on fine wines and the .....wait for it ....🙀 Stock market .......and theres more 🙀

Side: Marx
1 point

True , Engels paid the bills while the loafer sat at home writing his nonsense

Completely false. Marx worked extensively as a journalist, but was so underpaid that he could not make a living wage.

Which no one has really read including you

I haven't read all of them. I have certainly read more of them than you, since you haven't read any. Your attacks against Marx are rooted in your complete ignorance of his ideas.

Engels wrote most the articles

False.

Marx like you had atrocious English

I wonder how I managed to acquire a first class honours degree in journalism with "atrocious English".

Very popular in Stalinist Russia I’m told

The International Working Men's Association disbanded in 1876. Stalin was born in 1878.

WHY ARE YOU SOOOOOOOOO STUPID?

Which proved fuck all use to the wastrel as he never worked a day in his bone idle life

Which part of: "He was a journalist for ten years" are you having trouble understanding? Explain to us why you believe professional journalism does not qualify as a job, you stupid fucking Nazi twit.

Everything you say is absolutely stupid.

Remember also , he raped his maid , drove two of his kids to suicide , pissed away

Remember also, that on top of being an atrocious liar and a political fascist, you accused me of having "atrocious English", yet do not understand how to use the basic comma.

Side: Washington
excon(16171) Disputed
1 point

Hello hater,

You and your fellow communist have written 1,000’s of posts touting the benefits of communism. Did it work?

Nahh. Communism sucked before you started, and it STILL sucks.

excon

Side: Marx
1 point

You and your fellow communist have written 1,000’s of posts touting the benefits of communism.

Liar.

Firstly, I'm a democratic socialist, so you can stop pretending I'm a Stalinist. Secondly, defending Marx from a ceaseless wave of Nazi propaganda is hardly "touting the benefits of communism". If you and your fanatical right wing brethren want to attack Marx with arguments popularised by Adolf Hitler then I'm not the bad guy for countering it with facts.

Side: Washington
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historicfigures/marxkarl.shtml

A hugely influential revolutionary thinker and philosopher, Marx did not live to see his ideas carried out in his own lifetime, but his writings formed the theoretical base for modern international communism.

DUMMY was George Washington a Communist ???????????????????????????????

Side: Marx

See how the lying Nazis who infect CreateDebate twist and warp Marx's resilience and tenacity into laziness:-

With revolutionary uprisings engulfing Europe in 1848, Marx left Belgium just before being expelled by that country’s government. He briefly returned to Paris and Germany before settling in London, where he would live for the rest of his life, despite being denied British citizenship. He worked as a journalist there, including 10 years as a correspondent for the New York Daily Tribune, but never quite managed to earn a living wage, and was supported financially by Engels.

https://www.history.com/topics/karl-marx

Lying Nazis like Bronto and Amarel want you to believe the state-sponsored persecution of Karl Marx translates to him living a life of luxury at the expense of others.

BECAUSE they are lying Nazis.

Side: Washington
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

A hugely influential revolutionary thinker and philosopher, Marx did not live to see his ideas carried out in his own lifetime, but his writings formed the theoretical base for modern international communism.

No platform there NOM !!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Marx
1 point

Hello F,

Their legacy is a much better indicator of who is a worse person. Given that measure, Marx is much worse than Washington. Of course, if you hate America and love communism, well then, Marx is your man.

excon

Side: Marx
excon(16171) Clarified
1 point

Hello F

Your post presupposes that bad people CANNOT do good things... I fundamentally DISAGREE, of course...

I once took a course from a fellow named Werner Erhard.. He was quite famous in the day.. Anyway, turns out he was a child molester..

Yes, he's a BAD guy, but does that mean EVERYTHING I learned from him should be discarded??? NOOOOOO... It doesn't.. As a matter of fact, I'll bet you that LOTS of stuff I've learned came from people who've done some BAD shit..

excon

Side: Washington
0 points

Their legacy is a much better indicator of who is a worse person. Given that measure, Marx is much worse than Washington. Of course, if you hate America and love communism, well then, Marx is your man.

Many words, little meaning. George Washington was a scumbag and you don't know anything about Marx or what he advocated because everything you know about communism comes from cold war propaganda and from observing fascist states who used the promise of communism as a means to get in power, and then did nothing that Marx actually advocated.

Side: Washington
Dermot(5736) Disputed
2 points

George Washington was a scumbag

But Marx raped his maid , drove two children too suicide ,pissed and gambled away his wife’s inheritances , called blacks low brutes and detested Jews .......

Sounds exactly like your type of “ role model “ alright 🙀👌

Side: Marx