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Ho Chi Minh Ngo Dinh Diem
Debate Score:26
Arguments:24
Total Votes:26
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Who was worse: Ho Chi Minh or Ngo Dinh Diem?

Ho Chi Minh

Side Score: 12
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Ngo Dinh Diem

Side Score: 14
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Ho Chi Minh: Fought for independent government, gave land reforms and wealth distribution to peasants

Ngo Diem: Denied land reform and stole crops from poor peasant farmers, forced Catholicism on the population, had buddhist temples gassed and preists executed, had a deadly Mcarthy like communist hunt in which anyone suspected of being communist was executed, was a puppet of Washington.

Side: Ngo Dinh Diem
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

was a puppet of Washington

He cut his strings though, didn't he? If he remained a puppet, we wouldn't even be debating who was worse.

Side: Ho Chi Minh
Thejackster(517) Disputed
1 point

It doesnt matter if he was a puppet or not anyway, I know a guy from vietnam whose said that his dad lived in South Vietnam under Diems rule, and it was terrible, he said that the government of the North which took over was much better to live in.

Side: Ngo Dinh Diem
1 point

They named the city after the other guy, how bad could he be?

Side: Ngo Dinh Diem
GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
1 point

Well, they did name it that after the Communist North took it over, sooo...

Side: Ho Chi Minh
1 point

Half a country liked him enough to name the city after him, and nobody wanted to name a city after the other guy.

Side: Ngo Dinh Diem

Btw, it was shown that had the 1956 reunification elections took place, that the majority of Vietnamese cirizens would have voted to reunify under the North government. For this reason our government had Diem halt the elections.

Side: Ngo Dinh Diem
1 point

ho chi minh was fantastic leader of vietnam....today he's responsible for the unification of his part and NLF i.e north vietnam and south vietnam.....so he can't be worse.......diem is worse because he forced ordinance 10 on the vietnamese.....even marshal law was forced on them.......so diem was worse......no doubt!!!!!

Side: Ngo Dinh Diem

Your typical example of a Roman Catholic.

Side: Ngo Dinh Diem
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

What about when Ho Chi Minh killed innocent civilians, including women and children, for land? Was that a typical Buddhist?

Side: Ho Chi Minh
Thejackster(517) Disputed
1 point

First off, Ho chi Minh was a confuscionist atheist.

Number two, Ho Chi Minh didn't force his religion on the population and killed those who didn't accept it.

Side: Ngo Dinh Diem
1 point

He was a communist so obviously was not a Buddhist. Communism is anti-religious, have you ever even heard a word of what Marx said?

Side: Ngo Dinh Diem