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President Obama Milton Friedman
Debate Score:42
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Who would win in one on one debate?

This is hypothetical!!

Socialism vs Libertarian

President vs Economist

ObamaFriedman

   MILTON FRIEDMAN

PRESIDENT OBAMA

 

President Obama

Side Score: 18
VS.

Milton Friedman

Side Score: 24

President Obama is one of the intelligent and witty Presidents in the last 5 Presidents.

Side: President Obama

While that is a biased statement I will follow up by stating that Barack Obama understands the concept of spending money to earn money, regardless of the fact that the 1.7t dollar debt was handed to him by President Bush and you cannot just reduce that debt overnight.

Side: President Obama
1 point

Sure, nobody can reduce the debt overnight, but one can easily increase the debt overnight.

Side: Milton Friedman
1 point

If Obama was bad at debating, I very highly doubt he would be living in the White House

Side: President Obama
Troy8(2433) Disputed
1 point

This makes little to no sense. Obama is a a master at avoiding answering questions directly, and is a horrible debater as far as I've seen.

Side: Milton Friedman

Ignore that last statement, I hadn't watched the videos (or even seen the link).

Milton Friedman - why? He's an economist, not a politician. He was trained in such issues.

RIP Milton Friedman.

Side: Milton Friedman
TheRavenKing(33) Disputed
1 point

Evidently, he was not a successful economist considering every nation that followed his philosophy ended in economic disaster. (See Chile under the Junta)

Side: President Obama

Nobody can out duel Milton Friedman in debate. Nobody.---------------

Side: Milton Friedman

Long Live The Legendary Milton Friedman and his philosophy!!!

Side: Milton Friedman
TheRavenKing(33) Disputed
1 point

Hmmm. Apparently you haven't read the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Kleine, or heard about the disasterous results Friedman's philosophy leads to in EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY WHICH HAS ATTEMPTED IT. I shall repeat that, look at Chile, they followed the Chicago School of Economics (Run By Friedman) and they're economy collapsed, following that, the Junta Government, run by Pinochet (irony) resulted to nationalizing several major industries because the economy did not naturally fix itself. So as for that argument, Naomi Kleine has "out duel[ed]" Friedman.

Side: President Obama
1 point

That is where you are wrong. I actually have read Shock Doctrine.

First, the United States executed the coup in Chile of President Allende and replaced with with the dictator, Pinochet.

The reason that lassize faire economics didn't work because it was used inappropriately exactly as Kleine described it as a Shock Doctrine. The approach was abrupt, and should have been incremental steps towards capitalism, yet you apparently left out that Friedman was only an adviser, so ultimately he made no decisions. This same approach of abrupt capitalism also failed in Russia.

Naomi Kleine has "out duel[ed]" Friedman.

When did this take place. They have never been in a debate with one another.

You are forgetting that Kleine leaves in the free capitalism democratic United States of America.

Side: Milton Friedman

I've got to give it to the man. He's right on.

Obama thinks with his heart and if you do that long enough, your brain atrophies ;)

Side: Milton Friedman

Right on in what sense exactly? As I said before, every nation which followed Friedman at one point went down a road of economic disaster.

Side: Milton Friedman

Apparently those nations implemented his wisdom in a half ass manner ;)

Side: Milton Friedman
1 point

Without his teleprompter Obama would not stand a chance. He doesn't even know what is in his bills.

Side: Milton Friedman
TheRavenKing(33) Disputed
1 point

Your obviously in complete ignorance of the lawmaking process.

Bills are not created by the President, they can be PASSED by the President but they are created by Congress whom he can work with but he should not be expected to know during any creative process any obscure facets of the bill (even though he does and this is a foundless claim.)

Side: President Obama
Cicero(239) Disputed
1 point

How can anyone save God read a 2500 page bill in less than 10 days excluding Sundays? Therefore he cannot possibly read the bill in that time.

Side: Milton Friedman
MegaDittos(571) Disputed
1 point

He takes credit for it and this has to be the most absurd comment I've read on create debate "he should not be expected to know during any creative process any obscure facets of the bill "

Then how in the hell is he out there campaigning about what he is going to get done?

Why does he pick "top priorities"? see- http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ What_is_the_President_s_top_priority

You cannot be serious.

Side: Milton Friedman

Obama is so stupid he couldn't win an argument against himself.

Side: Milton Friedman
TheRavenKing(33) Disputed
1 point

Can I ask you how that is even a relevant point in this argument at all? Take your pointless (factually unfound bias) elsewhere.

Side: President Obama
1 point

Can I ask you how that is even a relevant point in this argument at all?

If relative intelligence is important, then relative stupidity is equally so.

Take your pointless (factually unfound bias) elsewhere.

Having presented no evidence to support your claim that Obama is markedly intelligent, I am of the opinion that your bias is as unfounded as TERMINATOR's.

Side: Milton Friedman
1 point

This man speaks the truth....................................................................

Side: Milton Friedman