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Who is willing to get the Covid Vaccine?

If you find the title too vague to comprehend, you aren't the target demographic for this debate.

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What are you talking about you ridiculously stupid moron?

Why would I be unwilling to protect myself against a deadly disease which has killed almost 3 million people in less than 2 years?

And why would you think your question is vague? It isn't vague. It's just really really stupid.

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Jody(1791) Banned
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If you find the title too vague to comprehend, you aren't the target demographic for this debate.

Wow! You are very sensitive indeed you posted up a very vague debate in the past and instead of re -stating a poorly worded debate your best option is to sulk and bitch about it , so can you move on and try and heal your damaged ego?

The vaccine should be mandatory but as usual we hear on the news only yesterday a sizable amount of ( who would have guessed ) Americans are against and of course they are mostly the idiotic ones who claim to be Christian , the religious in the US are determined to drag it screaming and wailing back to the good “ole days “ when everything was apparently rosy in the garden .....sad

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Amarel(5669) Clarified
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The US has a higher acceptance of the vaccine than France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Japan, South Africa, and Russia.

The US might have a higher acceptance rate if Kamala hadn't said she would refuse a vaccine developed while Trump was President.

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2 points

I am willing to get the covid vaccine because covid needs to end. What happens if no one gets the vaccine? It will never end! it is scientifically proven that the vaccine is safe. Getting the vaccine will most likely not harm you in any way. We all need this pandemic to end. people are losing their jobs. people are losing family and friends! We need to get the vaccine to make everybody safe, to make this end.

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Both my husband and I are going to be getting it as soon as it becomes available to our group. I do have to admit we are both concerned about side effects and I really just don't trust Johnson and Johnson but we know Covid can kill, the vaccines have a pretty good track record so far. As good as one can get for such a short time, I suppose.

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Mongele(643) Clarified
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My experience was that the side effects, which lasted for about 36 to 48 hours consisted of feeling shivery, very tired and a pain in the injected arm.

After the third day these reactions were gone.

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Which company did you get the vaccine from? Pfizer, Moderna, or J&J?

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With my first vaccine J&J I got very fatigued for about 48 hours. I can't remember any other effects. For my Moderna booster I had no side effects.

Compare that to my friend who got the virus and was very fatigued for about three weeks and had to go to the emergency room. Even then he had long covid afterwards.

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Amarel(5669) Clarified
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What's your issue with Johnson and Johnson? Do you have a preference for one of the other ones?

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1 point

I have an issue (and I know it's not uncommon) with companies that know there is a problem with their product yet continue to sell it in the hopes that no one ever finds out. J&J executives knew for a while that there were small amounts of asbestos in their talc powder but they refused to let the public know, choosing to make money off their consumers who trusted that a company that makes medical supplies would be upfront. Again, I know this is not uncommon for companies but I lost a lot of trust with J&J over that.

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1 point

Hmm ... Death or a chance at survival by taking the vaccine? The vaccine is tempting, but then again the sweet slumber of death is tempting too.

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2 points

I'm young. I posit a somewhat equal risk of suffering complications from either. If left up to me, I wouldn't take it. Give it to those actually at risk, or those that need to sate their paranoia.

This is partly because the risk of death for someone like me is so low - around 0.01%; it's roughly the same as choking on my food, and 5 times higher than of being struck by lightning in my lifetime; both also being things I don't concern myself with.

And it's also partly because of the vaccine. I have no problem with vaccines in general, so more specifically I'm wary of this particular vaccine being a new technology and not undergoing the same testing standards as other vaccines. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

With 3 out of 4 of all deaths worldwide being due to noncommunicable diseases; typically the body just falling apart, I think the greatest threat we face is age itself - the continual degradation of our bodies. Imagine the progress that could be made if all these resources that have gone towards covid went towards solving the problem of aging? Fable of the dragon-tyrant: we're still under its rule, most resigned to it, some even believing that it is a rightful ruler, good for us even. It's possible, but if that were true, why bother to save anyone?

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MrClementine(83) Disputed Banned
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This is partly because the risk of death for someone like me is so low - around 0.01%; it's roughly the same as choking on my food

Death isn't the only problem Covid can give you, dopey. It can cause permanent lung damage. Why are you so stupid? Do you even understand that the length of current lifespans is only possible because of vaccinations?

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Nomoturtle(857) Clarified
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It causes lung damage in serious cases, yes. And those that are less likely to die are also less likely to develop a serious infection.

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Excellent point about vaccines increasing longevity.

"Few measures in public health can compare with the impact of vaccines. Vaccinations have reduced disease, disability, and death from a variety of infectious diseases."

Don't forget long covid.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5402432/

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Amarel(5669) Clarified
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Studies are beginning to show that vaccines significantly reduce communicability. Is there no one in you life who would be at substantial risk if they got it?

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Nomoturtle(857) Clarified
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Indeed there are a few, and If I had symptoms and thought I was sick I wouldn't go to see them, just the same as before any of this authoritarian crap happened. Moreover, they are vaccinated.

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