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 Why Do Conservatives Hate Al Gore? (48)

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Why Do Conservatives Hate Al Gore?

It seems that whenever someone mentions global warming or Al Gore, the conservative knee-jerk reaction is seething hatred.

I've noticed this both on this site (I won't name names) and in convservative media in general (http://mediamatters.org/research/200905010049).

Why is this?

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3 points

I think most conservatives can't accept the political consequences that the reality of global warming entails. If global warming is true (and a mountain of evidence says it is) then the freedom businesses have to trash up the environment is going to be restrained even further.

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
3 points

To further explain the URL, Ingraham went on the O'Reilly Factor and "proved" Gore was personally profiting off his global warming cause by showing a clip of congressional testimony in which all references of the fact that he donates all proceeds to charity were removed.

If she's right that Gore is such are horrible selfish person, couldn't she have found a clip that didn't require drastic editing to prove her point?

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
DashRIPROCK(12) Disputed
2 points

Marsha Blackburn asked him if he would stand to make a conserable amount of money if cap and trade legislation passed. What he has made in the past and donated to awareness campaigns is pennies on the dollar compared to what he'll make if Cap and Trade was passed. Gore has stated that he wants to be the world's first green billionaire. Blackburn tried twice to ask Gore about the future, he avoided the question both times. I have the whole thing recorded. I also have Morano's interview with LI on tape. I see to recall a brief reference to every penny going to charity being made in the interview or at least one of the teasers they used during breaks. I'll review the entire video and post what I find.

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
DashRIPROCK(12) Disputed
2 points

Cerin, it was in the intro to the show. Fox wasn't trying to hide anything.

Thanks for putting me on to this liberal whining. I went on You Tune and

posted the Fox intro for the show that night so everyone could see that

Fox wasn't trying to hide anything. Here is the link. If they were trying to

remove the reference they shouldn't have put it into the opening of the show.

Gore never answered Blackburn's question. He kept referencing the past

instead of the future. He never said he would give all future earnings to

spread awareness. That means he was a biased witness with a lot of self-interest on the line that never should have been called. Most of my liberal friends have trouble seeing the forest for the trees. This is a great example

of avoiding the real issue with Gore's testimony.

Intro to Fox Show Containing Gore Quote Libs say Fox edited out.
Side: Cant Handle The Truth
Cerin(206) Disputed
1 point

Inclusion of a 3 second segment in the opening doesn't justify the removal of several seconds of similar statements in later clips.

And I didn't realize Gore was on trial for future "crimes". I thought he was being questioned on what he's currently done. We should definitely punish him now before he makes any money from his wealth of experience in the future!

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
2 points

He's a hypocrite. He goes and makes a movie about global warming, gets praised for it, and then goes home to an energy wasting home and flies across the nation in a private jet. I also hate how he gets so much credit for global warming. Was he the one who researched it? Came up with a formal conclusion on it? No- he made a documentary and won a peace prize for it and an Oscar.

Side: hypocrite
3 points

You left out his energy guzzling houseboat. He also won a Grammy for AIT which clearly calls the integrity of all three organizations who have awarded

him into question. MK, thanks for injecting a little common sense into this

argument.

Side: hypocrite
Cerin(206) Disputed
2 points

I've never understood these conservative talking points. Gore's life isn't perfect so that invalidates everything he says? How many Catholics and Republicans promote "family values" only to be found later molesting little boys? Does that mean we should disregard everything Catholics and Republicans say?

And of course he uses a jet. You expect him to give his talk around the world by driving across the ocean in a solar powered Pinto? It's not like he lives in a private jet. The short term cost of the jet outweight the long term cost of promoting awareness for his cause.

And he never claimed to be the sole researcher for his claims. His film documents the army of help he had.

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
DashRIPROCK(12) Disputed
6 points

I agree with you, Al Gore's hypocritical lifestyle has nothing to do with whether or not anthropogenic global warming is real. The fact that An Inconvenient Truth is filled with errors is a reason not to believe it's real.

The fact that Gore is on record as saying:

"In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous obstacle to any discussion of solutions. Nobody is interested in solutions if they don’t think there’s a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis."

certainly is a reason to believe that the science is not on his side.

How could you not love a guy who starts out by telling you he's going to lie er uh I'm sorry, over-represent the facts?

As for Catholics, I don't think the Pope is currently over-representing facts before congress in order to get a piece of legislation passed that will make him

the first green billionaire. Gore is doing that. He has so many financial ties to the green industry, he can hardley be considered anything but a highly biased witness. He should never be called to testify before congress on this issue.

Gore is first and formost a coward. He will not debate anyone because the science is clearly not on his side. Even when he is interviewed it's with journalists friendly to his cause that ask him softball prearranged, pre-approved questions. Hardly the actions of a man confident in his data.

The more humorous aspect of Gore's life is that he has been running away from Lord Christopher Monckton, The Third Viscount of Brenchley for years now. Monckton, a former advisor to Margaret Thatcher, was asked to testify beside Gore on April 24th, but was told when his flight landed in the U.S. that Gore refused to testify beside him. A few years ago Monckton took out adds in newspapers challenging Gore, but Gore tucked his tail and ran.

I'll add a link to a presentation Monckton made a few days after that. Monckton has written several papers on the lies I'm sorry over-representations in Gore's Sci-Fi Comedy Horror Flick - An Inconvenient Truth.

I agree with your point about his need to fly a private jet. There would be security issues with a former U.S. V.P. trying to fly coach. It's true Gore has never claimed to be the sole researcher for his claims. It is a bit hypocritical of the media to constantly ignore his lack of scientific credentials while ripping apart any skeptic who also like Gore lacks a true scientific background.

Cerin, we're not that far appart in our thinking, at least regarding what you posted, but I suspect that if you knew more about just how much he's exaggerated the truth, you'd be less quick to defend him.

Sincerely,

Dash RIPROCK III

http://www.hootervillegazette.com

http://www.liberalmadess.com

Supporting Evidence: Lord Monckton Presentation - See Video Tab (www.hootervillegazette.com)
Side: hypocrite
MKIced(2511) Disputed
3 points

Well if a republican told me about family values and did not follow through, he too would be a hypocrite. I'm not saying everything Gore says is invalid. But it doesn't make sense why the guy who promotes global warming so much would live a lifestyle like that. I really can't stand hypocrites when they are that blatant. I know everybody has done hypocritical things, but they would be to save another. Like saying not to smoke even though you do (not YOU, but an arbitrary "you"). Saying this would be to help another person by giving them advice on what not to do to live a healthy life. If he wants to save the world so badly, he should stop wasting energy, etc so much. He's not an exception to the rule.

As for the jet, why can't he go on a televised speech or debate? Why doe he have to show up anywhere in person. And around the country, he can take a train. Across seas, he can take a boat. Those are less energy-wasteful than jets. Sure they're slower, but they would help to prove a point!

Side: hypocrite
1 point

The one thing you missed was that Al Gore brought it into the consciousness of the world. I think that's huge.

Side: Maybe they're unhappy it means change
DashRIPROCK(12) Disputed
2 points

If anthropogenic global warming were a reality it would be huge.

Side: Maybe they're unhappy it means change
MKIced(2511) Disputed
2 points

Well yes, that is really big! I agree with you there. But what kind of person would I be if went out and made a documentary against abortion, for example, and then pressure my wife or girlfriend to get one? If you're going to make a film about something you believe in, you should "practice what you preach." :) I like that saying.

Side: hypocrite
2 points

For the same reason little kids get mad at their parents when they find out there is no such thing as santa clause.

Sometimes it's easier to pretend there is still a santa clause, and blame the parents for the lies that he doesn't exist.

Also the GOP runs on hate and fear, that's like their oil.

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
DashRIPROCK(12) Disputed
3 points

The GOP runs on hate and fear. I can't accuse Gore of hate, but he's got the fear thing down. He claims the sea level will rise by 20 feet even though the UN IPCC estimate don't come anywhere close to that. In all fairness, Gore doesn't believe it, he just says it. He's invested over $4,000,000 in beach front property. Not the actions of a man who thinks sea levels will be rising by 20 feet. Then there is his court jester James Hansen who says that Obama has four years to save the world. Oh no that's not using fear is it David?

Then there are all those quotes about drowning polar bears. The study Gore quoted lists only four dead polar bears. It estimated 27 or so could have been dead, but I'm not interested in estimates. Even if 27 had drowned that's nothing compared to the 25,000 polar bears on the planet.

Actually the only side pretending something exists that does't is the alarmists side, I think you got your little analogy backwards. One day, and that day will come, when environmentalists find out they've been duped by Gore because anthropogenic global warming does not exist, they'll be the ones mad at their parents.

I'll challenge anyone in this group to provide true scientific evidence that Anthropogenic Global Warming does in fact exist.

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
2 points

Dash...I'm not being a tit for tat player here but can you prove AGW does not and what portions, if any, truly do exist?

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

"sometimes it's easier to pretend there is still a Santa clause"

Seriously? How would that ever be easier? You would actually have to explain why and how, opposed to voicing the majority.

I think it's easier to go with the mediaflow (thats a word I kind of made up, I think it's self explanatory).

The only problem with this analogy is that there are not a lot of very smart and educated people that truly believe that Santa exists.

Side: hate is bad
2 points

I am conservative and I don't hate Al Gore. It is wrong to hate anyone.

I would be a hypocrite to call myself a conservative and then hate somebody for their beliefs or political views.

"Let me tell you who we conservatives are: we love people. When we look out over the United States of America, when we are anywhere, when we see a group of people, such as this or anywhere, we see Americans. We see human beings. We don't see groups. We don't see victims."

Side: hate is bad
2 points

Yes, hate is bad. I don't "hate" Al Gore. I just can't stand the way he lives and how is contradicts his beliefs. And also, I think there is a huge difference between hating an individual for specific reasons and hating a group of people for specific reasons. Hating an individual is okay by me.

Side: hypocrite
1 point

I'm with you a billion% on that! And there is a lot that I can't stand too.

Side: hate is bad
Cerin(206) Disputed
1 point

I'm glad you have that sentiment, but I'm not convinced conservatism is mutually exclusive with hate.

Would you call all those people at the Tea Parties calling Obama a fascist who's "worse than Hitler" hypocrites?

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
DashRIPROCK(12) Disputed
2 points

What would you call the people who created masks of Bush looking like Hitler. The same CNN reporter who got ticked at the sign with Obama as hitler seem to get a kick out seeing Bush as Hitler.

The vid is in the upper right section of this page:

http://www.hootervillegazette.com

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

No, because:

1. Not everyone was saying that, just the people CNN where cherry picking

2. Not everyone at those tea parties where conservative

3. Calling someone a fascist and hating them are not the same thing.

Side: hate is bad
2 points

I'll say one thing. I've met Al Gore and he gave me and thousands of peers a very moving, inspiring speech about his life, his struggles and global warming. I really like the guy, but if I had to point one negative thing about him, I'd say he promised a lot, and maybe these conservatives think he's a "lying gasbag" and a hypocrite because of it. That's what my friend's conservative family thinks.

Side: hypocrite
DashRIPROCK(12) Disputed
2 points

Did his inspiring speech mention that an expensive bust of Abraham Lincoln showed up at his house after he left office. I'm sorry you don't throw that in a moving box with a stapler and a box of pens.

Side: hypocrite

AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! Now that I have your attention, Al Freaking Gore is a politician. I don't care about his politics. I don't care if he's a Democrat or a Republican. He is a politician. If his mouth is open, he is probably saying something ONLY to benefit his cause. GOD! I'm this close to beating my head against the key board. Don't trust ANY politician. Is that so freaking hard to understand? Can we cut through all the partisan bull shit and agree on that?

Side: Don't trust any politician
2 points

Amen! The lie test for most politicians is whether or not their mouth is moving.

Side: Don't trust any politician
1 point

media matters is an invalid source due to it's obvious partisanship.

otherwise, I am not Conservative and i don't like Al Gore. Really, I just think he's a very silly man. and a hypocrite.

his movie was total crap and didn't bring anything new to the table. it, in fact, doesn't refute any claims against the idea that global warming is caused by man. it's basically one of the most useless documentaries ever made.

he won a Nobel prize... for what? as i've said, he has brought nothing to the table. he's more like that stupid friend of yours who decides to take a position much further than it needs to be. he doesn't present it in a non-biased, intelligent way. he just exploits it, makes t-shirts and calls anyone who disagrees with him a moron and a Nazi. we all have friends like that. they just fuck up the debate for you.

seriously, if i were an environmentalist i would be even more pissed off at Gore. all he did was fuck up a possibly legitimate argument.

not to mention that his lifestyle is not only non-environmental but even more carbonated and polluting than the majority of Americans.

I think South Park summed it up pretty well:

He was just upset that he lost the election and that nobody liked him so he decided to make something up and act like he's going to be the hero who stops it. Just so he can feel important.

Side: hypocrite
Cerin(206) Disputed
3 points

media matters is an invalid source due to it's obvious partisanship

Are you serious? They posted the entire congressional transcript, but you consider them, not Fox, to be the partisans? When did the truth start getting written off as "liberal bias"?

And Pyg, no offense, but you're a huge conservative. I consider myself a left-leaning centrist, but you disagree with me on practically every issue on this site, siding with the stereotypical conservative position. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but don't delude yourself into thinking you're not conservative.

Side: Cant Handle The Truth
ThePyg(6706) Disputed
1 point

how am i conservative exactly?

My Conservative beliefs:

Gun rights

harsh punishment for criminals

Strong security of the nation (includes water boarding terrorists if necessary)

NO redistribution of wealth

My Liberal Beliefs:

Secular Nation (with the exception of stupid shit like taking out God from the Pledge of Allegiance)

Abortion

Gay Marriage

Big government funding of scientific research, medical and miscellaneous

Big government funding on education

5 v. 4, so i guess when it comes to numbers, i'm Liberal.

Fox reports all facts and provides both the Liberal and Conservative argument. how is that bias?

Side: hypocrite