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Why I’m a communist—and why you should be, too

In the short preamble to The Communist Manifesto, one of history’s most widely read texts, you can tell that the authors have had it, right up to their beards. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were clearly sick of explaining that communism was not a synonym for evil or naivety, but a historical stage vital to the flourishing of all. In 1848, they demanded an immediate end to fearful European talk about the “specter” of communism. But, more than a century and a half later, the jittery gossip about communism continues.

Marx may have been one of the world’s most influential thinkers. His work, however, is now barely taught in the West. We might have scant knowledge of Marx these days, but we do retain enormous confidence that his ideas crumbled into dust along with the Berlin Wall.

Communism is a system of social organization that has never been truly tried and, these days, never truly explained. Yet it inspires fear in some, derision in others, and an almost universal unconcern for what it is actually intended to convey.

You could read Marx for yourself, of course, and find that his communism is not made from dreary monsters but instead complex reasoning toward a future social evolution. Many of its features may even be acceptable to your conservative aunt, if only she read him, too. But, given that a) Marx is tough, and b) you’re pretty busy making profit for capitalists all day, let’s have a précis.

https://qz.com/965740/why-im-a-communist-and-why-you-should-be-too/

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excon(14911) Banned
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Why I’m a communist—and why you should be, too

Hello hater:

You are TWO of the most VILE things on earth - a fucking communist, and a piece of shit Anti-Semite.

excon

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Dreadnought(4) Disputed
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Hello hater

Tells me to slit my wrists twice in one day. Come back two days later and calls me a hater. Ahahahaha!

You are TWO of the most VILE things on earth

And you sir, are all of them. You are deranged, dishonest, deceitful, spiteful, greedy and narcissistic, stupid, ignorant, fake, blind, obnoxious and boring.

a fucking communist,

You know precisely nothing about Communism except what American media has taught you to believe over the long period where it was the greatest ideological enemy of Communism in the world. Once, of course, Hitler and Mussolini had stopped being the greatest ideological enemies of Communism in the world.

The fact of the matter is that you live in a country which has descended abruptly into full-blown fascism, so by attacking Communists just like the fascists in Germany did, you really do nothing to convince people you aren't part of that movement.

and a piece of shit Anti-Semite

So, let me get this straight. First you accuse me of worshipping "vile" theories written a Jew (i.e. Karl Marx), then in the actual same sentence you accuse me of hating Jews? Which is it, you horrendously unintelligent dolt? Do I love Jews or do I hate them?

Just because you are a grumpy little bastard who can't accept the fact that I used science to prove to this community that you are lying about being Jewish, does not mean I hate Semites, or Jews, or whichever other group you want to use to smear attack me.

In sum, I suggest you either go for a long walk on the beach to cool off, or find an appreciably large cock to choke on. Either works for me.

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"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff" - Frank Zappa

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Dreadnought(4) Disputed
1 point

"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff" - Frank Zappa

I love Zappa but the entire pretence that anybody can ever "own" anything in the physical sense is axiomatically unsound. Ownership is a by-product of human arrogance with no physical relationship to reality. Hence, one could equally argue:-

Capitalism doesn't work because it rewrites the reality of nature.

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outlaw60(15375) Disputed
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Is the Communist saying there is no ownership in it's Communist World ????????

Side: Facts
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I have a bag of Lay's Potato Chips and they're mine, all mine, but I will share some with you. I don't have to, but I will.

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outlaw60(15375) Disputed
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The Communist says what ???? So the Brain Dead Communist has just said no one can own land or guns !!!! Goddamn you are a Fuckin Genius you Fuckin Fool !!!!!!!!!!

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Amarel(5471) Banned
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We are in agreement that people should read Marx. His manifesto is an easy start and I certainly encourage everyone to give it at least one thorough reading. Anyone with a brain will walk away better equipped to counter those who read Marx without the benefit of a brain.

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Dreadnought(4) Disputed
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I certainly encourage everyone to give it at least one thorough reading.

The implication you are making that you have ever read Marx is false, based only on your persistent conflation of Communism with state capitalism. You do not have a clue what you are talking about, and the only Marx you have ever read are the few lines you cherry-pick from internet web pages and persistently spam in order to support your narrative that he was a jobless terrorist.

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Dreadnought(4) Disputed
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Anyone with a brain will walk away better equipped to counter those who read Marx without the benefit of a brain.

Nobody with a brain makes up their mind before they do the research.

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Dreadnought(4) Disputed
0 points

We are in agreement that people should read Marx

I hope we are also in agreement that I am going to ban you because you are a political fascist.

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"B-buh it's not REAL communism"

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"B-buh it's not REAL communism"

"B-buh it's not a REAL free market"

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Marx·ism

the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, later developed by their followers to form the basis for the theory and practice of communism.

So the Dummy Brit Troll has admitted that it is a Communist and not a Socialist !!!!!!!!!!!

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Now i thought the Brit Troll opposed Nazis ??????? What a Confused World you live in !

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The Communists are the greatest polluters because they answer to no rules but their own.

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Marx is nowhere near to the genius of Napoléon Bonaparte

You remind me of Eric Cartman idolizing Hitler. You only respect Napoleon because he was an authoritarian and a conqueror. What did he contribute to humanity? Literally all the guy did was organize a large army and go around killing people. Napoleon was a worthless piece of shit who only cared about his own power. Marx on the other hand dedicated his life to analyzing all the ways that capitalism is shit and coming up with a better system.

In terms of innovation Marx created something rather revolutionary and saw the world in ways that no one else had seen it before, Napoleon invented nothing in his life and only went around killing people. Even if Napoleon was technically more intelligent (which I doubt) he was little more than a highly intelligent virus.

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Mingiwuwu(1446) Disputed
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Do you actually believe what you just wrote? Do you know how many conquerors and power-hungry types that I despise?

If Napoleon had won Waterloo we'd have a much more solid EU and world right now because WW1 itself would never have happened. You see, we'd still have had the 'social democrat' revolution but it would have spread out to the rest of humanity. Bonaparte was a power hungry guy amidst many power hungry guys... And girls for that matter. So, context-wise, Narcissism and Nihilism were the norm back then except Bonaparte was not a Nihilist. He wasn't just a genius in how he won wars despite huge setbacks in numbers and resources, he was a genius in how he avoided wars and won territory and/or alliance-strength in spite of it. He maximised every mistake. His fatal error was loving the wrong woman, can't really fault the guy for that but sure, he was quite a 'prick' when it came down to personality.

I don't want to humiliate you and get a ton of downvotes so I won't go into how utterly terrible Marx himself and his aftermath was and has been for humanity unless you push me to.

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