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 Why are people with high IQ's are less likely to be religious? (22)

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Why are people with high IQ's are less likely to be religious?

The human population's IQ is always growing, taking us from polytheism to monotheism to now, possibly, atheism in the near future, as our brains strive to grow to full nerdosity. Why is that?

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3 points

I don't want to have anything to do with Abrahamic religions. But Buddhism is great with meditation. Even Hinduism is better than Christianity.

The thing is meditation is not a religion. It is a practice of seeing the nature of the mind and observing and even documenting it. In fact Buddhism and science have a lot in common. Just Google it and see. Alan Wallace has especially been an out spoken proponent of the incorporation of Buddhism and science.

Meditation increases your IQ. Abrahamic religions lower it.

Peace!

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Those with IQs tend to like to be leaders, not followers. Religion is highly indoctrinating.

Now, 93% of scientists consider themselves Atheist or Agnostic. That Agnostic proportion is interesting, because I'm sure it takes up a lot.

I, personally, am an Atheist, but I read that when looking at the specific stats, Biologists are far more likely to disbelieve in both God and Spirits than Physicists, who seem to be less likely to say there is no God or spirits.

Interesting.

Physicists are, instead, not concerned with whether God exists. After all, the Universe is complex as shit, and what lies outside of it is pretty much unknown. Maybe unknowable. They may just be too afraid to admit that they're Atheists knowing that the Universe is so complex.

But Atheists and Agnostics, in general, are the same thing. Neither actually believe in God. One just says "I don't believe in God" while the other is more comfortable saying "I'm not sure."

So Atypican is right. Religion and belief in God are two different things. But Agnostics don't BELIEVE in God. You either believe or you don't. Most Atheists don't doubt a possibility. Even Hitchens and Dawkins would admit to that.

Could you please give a statistic for the "Now, 93% of scientists consider themselves Atheist or Agnostic", please? Thank you very much. :-)

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I thought this was common knowledge by now.

Well, at least it should be.

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Because religion is... well... stupid. I don't dispute that it can offer hope, and support, and blah blah blah, but it is a choice for the weak minded. The strong minded can see that what it offers is not only improbable, but also potentially harmful and immoral.

And, in most cases, the strong minded are intelligent.

Axmeister(4322) Disputed
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actually, atheism is for the wea med, they cannot cope with the concept of consience and dislike being judged on things they do. Thus they remove any chance of feeling guilt by removing the moral barriers that they are breaking. In most cases I've seen atheists tend to be the group who want to talk about all they sex, instead of doing something intelligent.

"The strong minded can see that what it offers is not only improbable, but also potentially harmful and immoral."

How is Christianity harmful and immoral?

ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
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they cannot cope with the concept of consience and dislike being judged on things they do. Thus they remove any chance of feeling guilt by removing the moral barriers that they are breaking.

This is false. Atheists do have to face judgment and moral issues in the natural world, like everybody else. What stops me from shooting up the local Tesco isn't the risk of supernatural judgment and wrath, but my personal moral code that says I shouldn't. Couple that with the natural system of judgment, ie, the judicial system, and you find that atheists have to cope with the same things as theists.

How is Christianity harmful and immoral

It's POTENTIALLY harmful and immoral due to the strangely barbaric teachings in the Old Testament. While barely anyone listens to these anymore, there is still a chance some nutjob fundamentalist could.

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The ill-conceived albeit orthodox notion of what it means to be religious, only refers to people who identify as members of worship based sects. Since exceptional intelligence and worship are incompatible, highly intelligent people eschew worship by habit, and since they recognize that the vast majority of people (including most otherwise very intelligent people) believe that all religious activity is necessarily worship based, and they realize that disregarding how a word is commonly understood (even if it's very broadly misunderstood) is unwise. They don't refer to themselves as religious because it would be akin to saying they are part of a worship group and therefore slavish minded.

2 points

Any facts and statistics to back this up, other than a generic,l sweeping statement?

I could easily say, People who eat McDonoalds are more likely to be atheist, this is because countries where there are many McDonoalds tend to have a lot of atheists. Thus, McDonoalds causes atheism.

However, I often cause a lot confusion aomng the athesist at my school, since I'm seen as a clever person when people find out I'm a Christian they tend to get shocked. I've even had one kid arrive to the conclusion that because I'm a Christian he is automatically cleverer than me (though i know he's secretly a Jew).

Dremorius(861) Disputed
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However, I often cause a lot confusion aomng the athesist at my school, since I'm seen as a clever person when people find out I'm a Christian they tend to get shocked.

There's a reason why they should be shocked. And there is also a reason why it would be senseless if it were flipped over to the contrary. But you are just an intellectual individual who hasn't questioned as much as most of the other smart people have.

It's already trusted as fact that the more intelligent you are, the less religious you will be. And no matter how subtle or excessive that difference is, there is still a difference. The results from many tests speak this as true. You just happen to be part of the reason why they say "less likely" instead of "100%".

(If there was a God, Christianity may just as be a cheesy representation of him. The same goes with the other failed human representations of a ultimate creator.)

But shouldn't you, as a logical person, understand how the bible brazenly contradicts it's own claims of omnibenevolence, omnipotence and omniscience?

There was also a study that found that only around 35% of Professors teaching at universities were truly religious. These results have shown at least some form of difference, even if that difference is small or large, it still counts as viable to the link of Atheism and IQ.

(Not to mention how the majority of scientists are also atheists.)

This link between Atheism and IQ is all too clear that it is almost insulting to religion.

Axmeister(4322) Disputed
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"But you are just an intellectual individual who hasn't questioned as much as most of the other smart people have. "

What do you mean I haven't questioned as much?

"There was also a study that found that only around 35% of Professors teaching at universities were truly religious. These results have shown at least some form of difference, even if that difference is small or large, it still counts as viable to the link of Atheism and IQ."

You follow the assumption that all people with a high IQ are Professors, I know several Christians who have got a degree in a science just to prove that they're intelligent even though they have a belief.

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Because religion is a pile of nonsense, all of it. None of it is based on reality. And intelligent people can see and understand it.

Nothing else to it.

atypican(4875) Disputed
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So then perhaps you might help me by pointing out something nonsensical about my religion. You claim that no religion is based on reality, and that seems like nonsense to me as I don't see how anything can not be based on reality.

nummi(1432) Disputed
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Have you read fantasy stories? Like Harry Potter, or at least heard of some? That's how it is not based on reality. Humans are capable of coming up with things that are literally impossible.

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Because instead of letting some religious book telling us what to do, thus not letting our brain expand, Atheism lets you figure things out for yourself. You question more, you look in depth at more things. Religions tell you what to believe, and you just accept it. That is not intelligence.

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because people who have high IQ's don't waste their nights with religion, and rather absorb themselves with knowledge. also, when you finally have a high IQ, you finally realize that all that stuff was a watse of time.

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I think it's because they can think more clearly on different subjects. Possibly things that are more difficult. It could have nothing to do with them being intelligent enough to disprove religion in their mind, and more so that because they're intelligent they think of different things instead of religion.

I don't know if I worded that properly... Sorry if I didn't, I'm kind of out of it today due to lack of sleep. lol

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They ask too many questions, and think.

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I'm sure there are people with high IQs who study to be a priest or a minister.