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Am I really that popular here?
Am I really that popular? It seems like I am a celebrity on here and you guys really like to talk about me and care about me since you make all of these debates about me. You could be doing something else besides talking about me there are other things more important than me.
I guess I am popular star on here?
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There's positive attention and negative. You're getting the negative one... That's a sign that something is wrong, about you. And that you seem to like that indicates you're somewhat messed up (if to leave aside your religious part). The attention you get is not something you should be happy about, because it is not positive attention. Well my mom thinks I shouldn't go on there because she is conservative Christian and she thinks Christians shouldn't be arguing or debating with non-believers. My dad he actually signed up for here he made a few arguments but then quit and doesn't go on anymore His username is mrm777. My dad says I can debate but I shouldn't be too much in religious debates because it can cause an uproar sometimes. Sometimes my dad tells me what to say sometimes he doesn't The point of debating is coming up with your own arguments not asking advice from others. Why do you think most people here are against your beliefs and opinions? Why do you think so many here dislike you? The arguments you give around here come from your book or from your parents and your parents got their knowledge from the same book. You aren't free, you are a slave, enslaved by religion. Can you really not see the prison you are in? Your family line was imprisoned generations back, centuries back. And ever since religion has been taught since birth to newborns till they teach the same to their children. It's an endless cycle of slavery, unless you prove smart enough to break it. Thus far you haven't proved yourself smart enough. Can you really not see what religion is doing to you, to others, to all of humanity? It denies science. Science! It denies how things really work, it denies knowledge that can be tested again at any time. It denies what makes us work. How can you not see it? It's right there looking at you and you don't even care. Because you were raised in shackles, behind bars, and still are. You are not free. Did you not read what I typed? I said SOMETIMES I ask sometimes for advice but not all the time right now for instance I am coming up with my own argument. The reason so many people are against my beliefs is because I am a Christian. I am aware of that. I am not stupid I can see that you don't need to point that out. I have noticed that for awhile now. I am not a slave to my own beliefs. I am currently free from the bondage of sin and I have repented and Jesus has washed away my sins while as you are still a slave to sin since you haven't repented and asked God into your life. You are currently dead in your sins. Actually the science actually supports the Bible because many things the Bible knew about before modern scientists knew about it but yet you choose to ignore what I have to say when I actually read what you have to say. If you say I am raised by shackles you are dead WRONG! I was raised by very good parents and I am very glad I am a Christian if it wasn't for Jesus I wouldn't be the same person to this very day. 3
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Wow, that was a whole new breed of stupid. "I'm not brainwashed by my religion...but the magic sky daddy's son washed away my sins and you're all going to a firy pit and I'm going to a cloud wonderland!". Science supports the bible? Bulllllshit. The opposite in fact. The earth is billions of years old, not 6-10 thousand. Creationism is a joke to science, archeological evidence disproves many so called happenings, science denies the virgin birth, miracles, and resurrection, and SO much more that, frankly, I'm tired of explaining to you for the 20th time. Science supports the bible- cool, great, wonderfull. NOW BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE. otherwise it is USELESS. it does NOTHING. The site is create DEBATE not create opinionated unsupported garbage. Oh, and Srom dear, stop running from my argument ok? :) because i will post it everywhere until you acknowledge it or accept defeat. Your call. Did you know the Bible knew that the world was round before modern scientists knew it was round? It says in the book of Isaiah Isaiah 40:22 ""He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth. They choose the word circle because there was no such word as sphere back then so they choose circle. Please do not avoid valid points by deflecting them with fallacious and irrelevant information. He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth. A circle by definition is a 2D shape. The Earth is not a circle, it is a sphere. They choose the word circle because there was no such word as sphere back then so they choose circle. Do you actually believe that the people of the past, renown for giving birth to civilization and pioneering early in philosophy and mathematics would have some sort of mental retardation in their heads, preventing them from describing a basic object that is round and spherical? I don't know where you are getting this information from, but please, in the name of truth, stahp! And please refrain from posting inbred b.s. So? It doesn't matter. It's obsolete. That's old news, bro. We know a lot of new stuff now, and if you take science seriously, science being things that have evidence, thus a good reason to accept it as true, then you would abandon an ancient book of halftruths and start looking for real truth. You think I hate Jesus or your beliefs? It's like Nummi or whoever said, it's not your religion, it's not you, it's just your stupidity. You can change it. Your fate is up to you. When it comes to debating you don't ask even sometimes. You must make your own conclusions, not say what someone else said! Debating is about your own, personal, critical thinking! You apparently are not aware of why they are against your beliefs. People aren't against your beliefs because you are a Christian, they are against your beliefs because your beliefs are idiotic. Your beliefs, which also happen to be Christian beliefs and originate from Christianity, are idiotic. Do you know what a prison is like? I'll describe - it has four walls, a floor, a ceiling, a window, and a door, or is barred from one side. You are not allowed to go outside of it, you may not go outside of it even if you could. You'd need permission to leave, permission only the authority can provide or is defined by certain rules when you can leave. Now your religion. It disallows anything that contradicts it, it forbids thinking critically about it and anything that is in contradiction with it, it forbids defying and denying it. It claims things to be true without any evidence but you also may not think whether it is true or not because that would mean critical thinking, it sets rules you must follow and never break. If you go against your religion it has a threat for it - hell. You also have no permission to leave your religion, if you do you are automatically destined to hell. Now, a weak minded and ignorant fool would take that threat seriously and not leave - a fool like yourself. You are imprisoned, you are shackled in place, you are not free. You are in a box and you are not allowed to break the walls and look outside. You are not allowed to put the box aside even for a tiny period and look from the outside inside the box, to see what it really is. You are in a very tiny cell, and you don't even realize it. Sin? It is part of the idiotic rules to keep you in place and in slavery. If you sin you go to hell, now why would a totally ignorant person do that? Of course would not deny something depicted as that bad, unless is smart enough to see that it is a lie to keep people stupid and thus under control. Why would anyone need to repent if Jesus supposedly removed all sins that had ever been, that were, and that weren't even committed yet? If that is true then repenting is worthless, it has no point. It has no point because you don't have any sins to repent - Jesus removed all of them. I don't sin, I have never sinned. Even if Jesus hadn't removed them (assuming he was real and that magic is real) I still would not be a sinner, because I am not religious. No science supports religion. That is a fact you need to understand. I do not ignore evidence, logic, reality itself, and you haven't provided any of those. All you have given me is fiction and nonsense. Sorry but I am not deluded, so of course I will deny it. I do not ignore what you say, I actually read it and have a good laugh while at it. What you say is illogical and irrational crap. There is no truth nor sanity behind it. It is based on stupidity and delusions. I have no desire to take something as such seriously and as real. Sorry to inform you but I am sane. You really are raised in shackles. If not then why are you living by rules that don't allow critical thinking? Rules that tell you will go to hell if you deny them? Rules that tell you you will suffer for eternity if you deny them? If you really were not shackled there would be no need for those rules, there would be no need for hell, for your religion, for any of it, not even heaven as it is only to give contrast to hell and further persuade people to adhere to religion without the tiniest bit of critical thinking. You are not free, you are a slave of religion. And your parents are no different, since they raised you this way. If it weren't for religion you wouldn't be the same person today. Your parents taught you what you know and taught you to read the book you so obviously are obsessed with. It is because of that evil book you are the way you are today. It is a very bad thing 'cause it imprisons your mind, it disallows thinking critically. It disallows reality. You are a slave, you are in shackles, and you are pathetic because you are too impotent to break the shackles. Oh, and please, do reply. The alternative means you will simply ignore all of it and not even think about any of it. Thus proving me right and the debate won. If you don't reply you admit defeat. I don't need your help. When is the last time you worry about yourself? I can take care of myself. You worry about yourself and I worry about myself. You don't see me trying to tell you to do something different now do you? It seems like you have are trying to get me away from Christianity. If that's what your trying to do your going to FAIL because I won't run away from it. I never tell you to be a Christian, I accept your beliefs and move on but you, you don't like what my beliefs are. You keep trying to push and push and its not going to work. Why do you continually try to change me its not going to HAPPEN! You hate me I can tell you do and don't say you don't because I can tell by your words the way your insult me and they way you talk to me you hate me. Also people do dislike me because I am Christian because what is a Christian? A Christian is someone who follows Jesus Christ and believes in His Word and follows it and a Christian follows Christianity so yes you do dislike me. I don't care if you people dislike my beliefs its just the way I am and I choose to be this way. Their are going to be many people disliking me. They disliked Jesus first so of course people are going to dislike me. You say that you do sin that's a lie everyone sins every single day. No one is perfect except for Jesus because we have all sinned. This time THINK while reading it, see what I described in your own life, recognize it in yourself. And do not fucking ignore again!!! I will keep copy pasting till you admit you are wrong or till you accept defeat by not replying again. And if you don't reply that means I am right and you are wrong. When it comes to debating you don't ask even sometimes. You must make your own conclusions, not say what someone else said! Debating is about your own, personal, critical thinking! You apparently are not aware of why they are against your beliefs. People aren't against your beliefs because you are a Christian, they are against your beliefs because your beliefs are idiotic. Your beliefs, which also happen to be Christian beliefs and originate from Christianity, are idiotic. Do you know what a prison is like? I'll describe - it has four walls, a floor, a ceiling, a window, and a door, or is barred from one side. You are not allowed to go outside of it, you may not go outside of it even if you could. You'd need permission to leave, permission only the authority can provide or is defined by certain rules when you can leave. Now your religion. It disallows anything that contradicts it, it forbids thinking critically about it and anything that is in contradiction with it, it forbids defying and denying it. It claims things to be true without any evidence but you also may not think whether it is true or not because that would mean critical thinking, it sets rules you must follow and never break. If you go against your religion it has a threat for it - hell. You also have no permission to leave your religion, if you do you are automatically destined to hell. Now, a weak minded and ignorant fool would take that threat seriously and not leave - a fool like yourself. You are imprisoned, you are shackled in place, you are not free. You are in a box and you are not allowed to break the walls and look outside. You are not allowed to put the box aside even for a tiny period and look from the outside inside the box, to see what it really is. You are in a very tiny cell, and you don't even realize it. Sin? It is part of the idiotic rules to keep you in place and in slavery. If you sin you go to hell, now why would a totally ignorant person do that? Of course would not deny something depicted as that bad, unless is smart enough to see that it is a lie to keep people stupid and thus under control. Why would anyone need to repent if Jesus supposedly removed all sins that had ever been, that were, and that weren't even committed yet? If that is true then repenting is worthless, it has no point. It has no point because you don't have any sins to repent - Jesus removed all of them. I don't sin, I have never sinned. Even if Jesus hadn't removed them (assuming he was real and that magic is real) I still would not be a sinner, because I am not religious. No science supports religion. That is a fact you need to understand. I do not ignore evidence, logic, reality itself, and you haven't provided any of those. All you have given me is fiction and nonsense. Sorry but I am not deluded, so of course I will deny it. I do not ignore what you say, I actually read it and have a good laugh while at it. What you say is illogical and irrational crap. There is no truth nor sanity behind it. It is based on stupidity and delusions. I have no desire to take something as such seriously and as real. Sorry to inform you but I am sane. You really are raised in shackles. If not then why are you living by rules that don't allow critical thinking? Rules that tell you will go to hell if you deny them? Rules that tell you you will suffer for eternity if you deny them? If you really were not shackled there would be no need for those rules, there would be no need for hell, for your religion, for any of it, not even heaven as it is only to give contrast to hell and further persuade people to adhere to religion without the tiniest bit of critical thinking. You are not free, you are a slave of religion. And your parents are no different, since they raised you this way. If it weren't for religion you wouldn't be the same person today. Your parents taught you what you know and taught you to read the book you so obviously are obsessed with. It is because of that evil book you are the way you are today. It is a very bad thing 'cause it imprisons your mind, it disallows thinking critically. It disallows reality. You are a slave, you are in shackles, and you are pathetic because you are too impotent to break the shackles. This time THINK while reading it, see what I described in your own life, recognize it in yourself. And do not fucking ignore again!!! I will keep copy pasting till you admit you are wrong or till you accept defeat by not replying again. And if you don't reply that means I am right and you are wrong. Dude your just wasting your time I am never going to admit that I am wrong or that my beliefs are wrong. Go ahead and keep copying and pasting it isn't going to change anythng. You know why I ignore this arugment because I know deep down inside my heart that those things that you say to me aren't true so its worthless even telling me or describing how my life is. 3
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sorry - I haven't read the whole thread - just wanted to point out something. Why are you here if you "never" plan on accepting information no matter how proven it is or how flawed it shows your argument to be? If you just want to evangelize, what you are looking for is a church (or a soapbox) not a debate site. You know why I ignore this arugment because I know deep down inside my heart that those things that you say to me aren't true so its worthless even telling me or describing how my life is. On the contrary, you ignore it because reading it would hurt you. It would hurt you because deep down you know you are wrong, you know religion is wrong, and you know what I have to say about it is true. You are afraid of comprehending your fault - something that would require the abandonment of everything you currently know and that would require re-figuring your life. You aren't even thinking about any of it because you are afraid, you are a coward. You are afraid of reality, of the real truth, and thus live in a fantasy world. You have been wrong your entire life and you aren't even bold enough to face it, to admit it. You are pathetic and worthless. You need professional help, if you care about your own life. But you've indicated you don't care about your life, that you only care about your religion. Would you die for something that has no evidence to prove it real, something that has in fact all the evidence to the contrary? Would you die for your religion? Dude your just wasting your time I am never going to admit that I am wrong or that my beliefs are wrong. Then what are you doing here? (As JustIgnoreMe also asked.) If what you said is true then everyone should consider you as an object of entertainment, of mockery, of ridicule. It would be fitting. In fact, I will consider you as such from now on. Just an object of entertainment - something to mock and make fun of when the opportunity presents itself and you tend to create plenty. You either begin thinking and accepting the evidence and logic that others provide you or GET THE FUCK OUT! Or accept the coming ridicule and even insults. If what you said is true then everyone should consider you as an object of entertainment, of mockery, of ridicule. It would be fitting. In fact, I will consider you as such from now on. Just an object of entertainment - something to mock and make fun of when the opportunity presents itself and you tend to create plenty. Why am I here? Look at the website its called createdebate its a place to debate about ideas and other things besides religion. Why are you here? You take this so seriously and you want to people who are not like you to get out. So lets say for example that everyone on this site likes coke and you like pepsi should everyone leave including the creator just because it goes against your views? NO! Go ahead and mock me and make fun of me because Jesus was made fun of and he was mocked and so that is true right there. "I am never going to admit that I am wrong or that my beliefs are wrong." Looks familiar? Yeah, something you said. You are not debating here. You state some things then others give you evidence proving it all wrong and you just keep ignoring and denying all the evidence. You are not debating here. I have no fucking idea what you are doing here. So, what are you doing here? I'm here just to give my opinions on some topics, to debate a bit (but, well, religious nonsense tends to get in the way...). Unlike you. You take this so seriously and you want to people who are not like you to get out. "I am never going to admit that I am wrong or that my beliefs are wrong." This is not how debating works. You actually need to think and consider other possibilities before saying they are dead wrong. You have not once done that. All you do is simply claim everyone and everything but yourself and your own opinions and beliefs wrong, unless they are very similar to yours. That is very stupid. You need to provide evidence and/or logic to show why you consider it wrong, not just say it is wrong because you believe so or because your parents or the pointless book told so. So lets say for example that everyone on this site likes coke and you like pepsi should everyone leave including the creator just because it goes against your views? NO! I don't like either. This, what you are doing, is not debating. We provide all the evidence, all the logic and all you do is simply give petty and meaningless arguments or simply ignore or deny. Go ahead and mock me and make fun of me because Jesus was made fun of and he was mocked and so that is true right there. Again that jesass guy. Prove he even existed! And remember, you may not use anything that originates from the bible to prove what originates from the bible. Seriously, how stupid can you be to not get this? Or you do understand why you may not? Doubt you do... that would take a mind of a 5(?) year old? You are retarded. You want to follow some fantasy works? A Tale of the Malazan Book of the Fallen is a good one (10 book series). Make things actually interesting and read those books and take what is described there as real and then come back. If you actually did that your language would probably improve significantly... The book has many powerful beings, some of whom are considered there as gods; it has different realms, religions, people, creatures; magic, powerful magic, very powerful magic; etc. Considering you are already into fantasy (the bible) you might actually love it. Srom, what is truth? If you don't care about truth, then keep being a Christian. I get free heaven if I'm christian, hell if I'm not. What would make me not want to be Christian if I am rewarded with that? In the search for truth, I will reject lies. What you say are lies. If I believed your lies, I would think I would go to heaven when I die. Immortality in paradise. Nothing is better. But I don't believe that. It's just lies that control you, and the more you believe it, the more imprisoned you become. You are slipping away from the truth... Please try to trust me. Jesus can be your guide, but the supernatural? It isn't real and never was. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR ANCESTORS. You think your pagan ancestors are proud of what they see? They were destroyed and forced to believe what your church said. Your women raped, your men slaughtered by missionaries. Your ancestors were FORCED to convert, and now you are one of the ones who destroyed your own past. You are leading yourself deeper and deeper into the hell that your insane religion is. 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