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Why do scientists claim that Evolution is a fact when its actually a theory?

I have noticed that many people claim that evolution is a fact but why do people think its a fact when I think of it, its just a theory and it could be right or wrong. Just like the Big Bang Theory it could be right and it could be wrong. 

Its a fact because......

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Its just a theory.

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Gravity is a theory. Do you question it?

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Linsdip(111) Disputed
3 points

Gravity is not a theory it is fact it can be measured and many calculations made using the results. However why Gravity exists cant be explained it is contrary to most other science.

Evolution is a theory and is full of holes - the missing links were mostly fakes and as for carbon dating that is also highly innacurate as it is based on the assumption that the world has always been as it is now.

Side: Its just a theory.
2 points

Evolution is a theory and is full of holes - the missing links were mostly fakes and as for carbon dating that is also highly innacurate as it is based on the assumption that the world has always been as it is now.

Evolution is full of holes? Nonsense. What makes you think that we even need the missing links? The entire fossil record is merely a bonus for scientists. Evolution would have been confirmed even in the absence of the fossil record.

As for carbon dating being inaccurate, the simple fact that it is based on the assumption that the rate of radioactive decay has been constant does not make it automatically false or untrue. Not to mention, other independent dating methods confirm radiometric dating. Speed of light, Doppler effect, distance of galaxies, etc.

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monkeybrain(22) Disputed
1 point

Theory=Fact (in science.learn DEF-IN-ATI-ONS please {[-]'s to stress word})

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mastadebator(3) Disputed
1 point

evolution has a few holes in it, anything else is only a hole.

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Linsdip(111) Disputed
2 points

Gravity my friend is a fact not a theory, if you should jump from a tall building you will find that this is the case.

Granted the explanation for gravity is theoretical and my opinion there is no reasonable explanation yet

Side: Its just a theory.
Cuaroc(8827) Disputed
1 point

Try goggling theory of gravity then you will see it is a theory .

Side: Its a fact because......
4 points

Well, the term "fact" isn't very concrete in its definition. "Fact" refers to things that are true. Now, in general, a well supported theory is considered true because of its ability to satisfy the Scientific Method. It is only a theory that Heroin is bad for you, but to say that it isn't a "fact" is only either arguing semantics of the word "fact" or denial of the evidence to support this theory.

Theories can be facts. Hypothesis that haven't faced the scrutiny of the Scientific Method, however, aren't true. They are suggested, and until it goes through experimentation and verification, it will never be able to hold itself as a fact.

Evolution is a theory. Creationism is only a hypothesis.

Whether Creationism is a fact or not is unknown. Evolution, however, is a fact. Until we get ground breaking evidence to somehow explain everything that currently makes it seem that Evolution is a fact when it really isn't.

Side: Its a fact because......
1 point

Yeah - Evolution is a theory and a bad one at that riddled with holes

Gravity is a fact it exists no one knows why but it exists

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Cuaroc(8827) Disputed
3 points

But don't you know? gravity is a theory too .

Side: Its just a theory.
1 point

Yeah - Evolution is a theory and a bad one at that riddled with holes

I have never been able to encounter anyone who has been able to seriously answer the question of "are there any holes in evolution". So tell me, what are the holes in evolution that I haven't already refute in my other response?

Gravity is a fact it exists no one knows why but it exists

This is like asking why matter or photons exist.

Side: Its a fact because......

Evolution is both a fact and a theory.

Why do you say "just a theory" ? You act as if its easy for an idea in science to achieve the term "theory". But this only serves to demonstrate how little you know about science and how it works.

When you say it could be right or wrong, you are correct, but not in the sense that you are trying to make it sound like. The chance that evolution is wrong is astronomically low, to the point of not even worth considering (unless you have evidence to refute evolution, of which none has been shown to exist yet).

Supporting Evidence: Evolution as fact and theory - Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org)
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Linsdip(111) Clarified
1 point

Evolution is a theory because it isnt proven - so by defintion the reponsibility is for Evolutionists to prove the theory not the otherway round

Side: Its a fact because......
3 points

Evolution is a theory because it isnt proven

No, evolution is a theory because it has been proven. Since you have no clue what you're talking about, I'll post the definition for you.

Scientific Theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.

Did you catch the part where it says "repeatedly confirmed" ?

so by defintion the reponsibility is for Evolutionists to prove the theory not the otherway round

Evolutionists already have met their burden of proof. If you want to refute it, its your turn for you to meet your burden of proof. Prove the theory of evolution wrong.

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2 points

There are no facts or evidence to proof that it isn't true. Also, in scientific terms a theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. a theory by definition is a well proven fact!

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1 point

Having supported creationism in a previous debate, all my research on the subject was based upon attacking evolution, I couldn't find any fact based evidence to back up another position.

So I just went with the old reliable attack evolution where it was weekest. But simply doing this does not take away that it is much better researched and has far more evidence that any competing theory, which are all realy just based on faith and conjecture. There are no competing scientific theories.

Side: Its a fact because......
2 points

I realise that scientific theory is different from laymans theory just like I realise that you make a lot of it up as you go along... Fact is that The Theory of Evolution is not a fact it is based on facts.......... would you agree that these facts could be interpreted in another way............ and please stop being so rude

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ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
4 points

Fact is that The Theory of Evolution is not a fact it is based on facts

This made me laugh.

If you base something entirely on facts, your result will be a fact. If this were not true, then the whole of mathematics would fail, leaving all science to fail, and all society to fail. EG:

1+1=2: Fact

2X2=4: Fact

Therefore

1+1+1+1=4: Fact

But under your reasoning:

1+1+1+1=4: Not a fact.

Or to put into a more relevant scenario:

If someone's heart stops, they will die: Fact

People's hearts stop: Fact

Therefore

People die: Fact

But under your reasoning:

People die: Not a fact

How humorous.

Side: Its just a theory.

If someone's heart stops, they will die: Fact

People's hearts stop: Fact

Therefore

People die: Fact

But under your reasoning:

People die: Not a fact

How humorous.

It is always sad to see so fine an Aristotelian Syllogism wasted in debate against one who cannot appreciate it.

Side: Its just a theory.
1 point

You're wrong. To put if simply.

The Theory of Evolution is a fact and a theory. Evolution is a theory and a fact

Please do read the link I sent you. It explains it perfectly well.

Many scientific theories are so well-established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics). Like these other foundational scientific theories, the theory of evolution is supported by so many observations and confirming experiments that scientists are confident that the basic components of the theory will not be overturned by new evidence.

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skywh(104) Disputed
0 points

Hasn't it occur to you that you are probably just being denial of the abundance and accuracy of evidence that supports the theory of evolution as also being a fact?

Others have already proven this repeatedly. Scientist are not refuting the theory of God ( yes, this is fully a theory at a scientific standpoint otherwise you are just wasting time here).

They are just reporting what evidence they can find about our origin which is available in our environment.

If we are to drop from the sky without any ancestral origin dont you think there will be evidence to this as well..which will puzzle scientist till this very day?

The truth is the environment and our universe is much more complex than the bible. Your bible is an escape from this reality.

Side: Its just a theory.
monkeybrain(22) Disputed
0 points

Don't mess with faith (they say the same stuff anyway , the Bible may be a bit off but wasn't when Christ was here)

someone ought really have sat down and written what he said PROPERLY then get it signed and stamped and widely circulated ....even if they didn't have paper then And were being hunted down by the romans.

Side: Its a fact because......
2 points

Evolution as you say, states a single cell eventually leading up to us, via natural selection and "survival of the fittest". Mmk? Again, as you say.

Genesis states that god created animals and land (of earth), sea animals and birds, ect. THEN he created man AFTER he created life (or rather it could be said a single cell organism came first, then HUMANS, yay!)

SO.

Evolution and creationism in my opinion DO NOT REFUTE EACH OTHER. They compliment each other. HOW SO?

Here's how.

Since evolution states a PROCESS of evolving, aka first cell to animals to us.

And creationist claim god created everything, from the Book of Genesis.

I say, the only differences between the two thoughts are that one (evolution) does not state whether a higher being created it, it just "was" and viola here we are, humans stemming from a previous existence of that single cell life form. AND secondly, creationists believe the earth is merely a couple thousand years old, when evolutionists claim the universe is something like a couple thousand million years old; obviously a difference in number, but merely NO difference in THAT there were previous life forms BEFORE humans then came us humans.

To me both of these theories look very similar, in terms of LOGIC and how LOGIC work. On the other hand, if you believe in genesis, it states life was created BEFORE human beings, going HAND IN HAND with evolutionary theorists. Life came first, then humans came after that original life form.

Creationists believe we were created after other life forms were there before.

Evolutionists believe we were created after other life forms were there before.

How's that work for you?

Side: Its a fact because......
1 point

I challenge the idea that Man is descended form Apes, Supposedly Man evolved from Apes, to what we are today and some scientists use as evidence the fossil remains which seem to indicate a progression from Ape to Man. lets call Ape Step 1) and Man step 10) and the steps between were the progression. Since Man still exists and Apes still exist where are the descendants of step 2 thro 9. Theory they never existed thats why they arent here. Use of DNA is highly dubious as we have DNA incommon with practically if not all species of Birds Fish and Insects.

It is a fact that some fossils so called are actually fakes probably the most famous is Piltdown Man Darwin was also party to this particular fake...

Scientists like things like evolution it pays the mortgage so they could have other motives to go looking for evidence where there isnt any and creating there own evidence when they need it!!!!!!!!! touche pussycat

Would you like an example of Scientific theory being incorrect. For decades scientist have thought of a T Rex as a vicious Hunter. Fact is it is now accepted that the T Rex was probably a scavenger

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ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
3 points

The more I read stuff like this, the more disappointed I become with humanity. I shouldn't bother rebutting this stuff, seeing as no-one ever listens, but fuck it, sick day, nothing to do.

lets call Ape Step 1) and Man step 10) and the steps between were the progression. Since Man still exists and Apes still exist where are the descendants of step 2 thro 9.

Speciation. Your question is like asking why wolves still exist.

Theory they never existed thats why they arent here. Use of DNA is highly dubious as we have DNA incommon with practically if not all species of Birds Fish and Insects.

Are you slow or something? Similarities in the DNA record support evolution. We expect humans to share varying levels of genetic similarity with other species if evolution is true. We can expect for us to share more similarities with chimpanzees than finches, but more with finches than bacteria.

It is a fact that some fossils so called are actually fakes probably the most famous is Piltdown Man Darwin was also party to this particular fake...

This is dumb on another level. Firstly, Darwin died some 30 years before the "discovery" of Piltdown man.

Secondly, that's one fossil that was put forward by one notorious fraudster. Are you also going to accuse all the other fossils of being fake, along with all of the genetic and observed evidence we have too?

Scientists like things like evolution it pays the mortgage so they could have other motives to go looking for evidence where there isn't any and creating there own evidence when they need it!!!!!!!!! touche pussycat

I am now starting to doubt that you are a fully functional part of society.

Would you like an example of Scientific theory being incorrect. For decades scientist have thought of a T Rex as a vicious Hunter. Fact is it is now accepted that the T Rex was probably a scavenger

That was not a theory, it was a postulation at most. Despite several people telling you otherwise, you still haven't got it in your thick little head that a scientific theory is different from a laymen's theory. Please read a book, and stop embarrassing yourself. In fact, I'll make it easy for you.

http://www.christs.cam.ac.uk/darwin200/pages/index.php?page_id=j

http://earlyhumans.mrdonn.org/evolution.html

http://www.charliesplayhouse.com/great-links-for-kids.php

Side: Its just a theory.

Downvote without a response... cool ...

Side: Its just a theory.
1 point

Scientists like things like evolution it pays the mortgage so they could have other motives to go looking for evidence where there isn't any and creating there own evidence when they need it!!!!!!!!!

Yeah 'cos no scientist wants the fame and fortune that would come with showing another working theory. Or is it a global conspiracy like the moon landings? LOL

Side: Its just a theory.
Cuaroc(8827) Disputed
2 points

Since Man still exists and Apes still exist

Do everyone a favor educate yourself on evolution before you spew nonsense like that.

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monkeybrain(22) Disputed
1 point

Don't get angry at the guy he's just starting a debate - no wrong in getting people to find over junk.

Side: Its just a theory.
1 point

Overwhelming evidence

Overwhelming evidence

Overwhelming evidence

Overwhelming evidence

It's Actually both a fact and a scientific theory

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monkeybrain(22) Disputed
1 point

Theory=Fact

(fix your definitions pleease,it hurts when people don't use a brain!)

Side: Its just a theory.
modorichie(152) Disputed
1 point

Its a fact in the everyday use of the word and its a scientific theory in the sense that it's scientific theory, however not all scientific theories are facts, for example the plum pudding model of the atom was a scientific theory. Go away creationists this doesn't help your argument. Due to the gold leaf experiments carried out by Rutherford, atomic theory had to modified to allow for the scatterings observed in his experiments.

The difference with the theory of evolution is nobody has produced any data for PEER REVIEW that disputes it, only inforce it.

Side: Its a fact because......
1 point

I suggest you read up on Scientific theory you might learn somthing

Side: Its a fact because......
1 point

I agree (who are you talking to though ... Oh! i got it .... nevermind :p )

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1 point

In Science when one says 'Theory' (which is a scientific word for: "I did a lot of research and experiments until I was ABSOLUTELY sure what I had first thought about extensively truly must be how it happened/shall happen/is/was/TRUE" depending upon what we are talking about(biology/astronomy/history/bla bla bla,etc.)) it means it IS fact!

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Linsdip(111) Disputed
1 point

No its not a fact it is a theory based largely on theory and some facts. and

Theory + Theory + Fact, does not = Fact

Side: Its just a theory.
Cuaroc(8827) Disputed
1 point

Did you even read his argument ?

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Lysenko(38) Disputed
1 point

Wtf are you talking about?

A Scientific Theory is an explanation of facts and observations.

Side: Its a fact because......
1 point

It's a 'theory'- but a very believable theory with tonnes of evidence, that without certain competition, would be considered a fact. Creationism is a bit like one of those 'how did the elephant get his trunk' stories.

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1 point

Hahahaha this is silly. There is no need for evidence, no need for justification. Evolution is a simple concept. All these statements are FACTS. Roll with me here. Do you agree that:

1: All plants, animals, and everything else are different in small, but quantifiable ways (She's got blue eyes, he's got brown hair, etc)

2: some of these traits, for example blue hair, might make an individual in a species more likely to be seen than, say, someone with brown hair.

3: being seen easily means that individual is a target for predators.

4: Many traits can be passed on, for example brown hair.

5: if the blue-haired individual is eaten he can't reproduce.

There, you agree! It's simple. If you get eaten you can't have sex. If you can't have sex, you don't pass on what makes you you to your children. Your children, and their children, will be put through the exact same trials. Eventually, this creates a change in the group, as the more successful group overpowers the group that can't reproduce at the same rate. It's fairly simple.

Side: Its a fact because......
1 point

OK, wayyyy too many users on this thread are posting ignorance rather than understanding what a scientific theory is first.

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1 point

Evolution can be scientifically verified. Evolution happens all the time in the evolution of diseases (which reproduce in far more massive exponential rates than more complex animals such as vertebrates whose evolution can only be witnessed in millions of years).

For example 90% of bacteria gets killed off by a change in environment, such as an antibiotic, except for a 10% that has an antibiotic resistance trait. This 10% is unaffected by the antibiotic. Having no obstacles, the 10% multiply to replace the 90% gap and become the new majority.

Sometimes bacteria will share antibiotic-resistant traits with other bacteria (sexual reproduction), allowing other bacteria to make use of the resistance. We invent a new antibiotic to kill off 90% of them, and the cycle repeats again.

This is why doctors tell you to never stop taking your meds (even though you already feel good), to make sure that 100% gets killed off and that evolution never happens.

Basically, evolution is all about traits undergoing natural selection, with the traits that help in survival in the current environment (such as resistance to antibiotics) multiplying, and with those that don't getting deleted.

Side: Its a fact because......
1 point

"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation."

That's as close to a fact as you can get.

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flewk(1193) Clarified
0 points

Supporting Evidence: You are wrong. (www.thefreedictionary.com)
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AaylaRaven(22) Disputed
1 point

You have no proof or anything intelligent to say, do you? :)

Side: Its just a theory.
5 points

This is a false dichotomy. Though nothing can truly be declared as fact in this world, evolution is as close as you're going to get. A theory is, by most arbitrary definitions, a fact. Not in the laymen sense of a guess, but in the scientific sense; a hypothesis which has gone through the rigor of the scientific method, and has reached a point where the explanation it provides is both verified and sensible. This is what most people would call a "fact".

Side: Its just a theory.

I might have been impelled to write my own argument, but I have just finished a fatiguing repudiation of capital punishment. All the facts which are necessary to the rebuttal are to be found in the argument above, and to add any more would be entirely futile. I shall upvote it (I was permitted to do so twice, for some reason) so that all may observe the futility of their own additions.

I submit that it is time for those who would refute science, to properly educate themselves in its terminologies.

Addendum

And to attempt to subvert any matter by semantic argument is unworthy of us all.

Side: Its just a theory.
Linsdip(111) Disputed
1 point

The problem with scientists is that they dont know when they are licked - having ego's the size of The known Universe helps. being as we say know it alls - yet the truth is a fact is a fact. it is 100% the case, there is no doubt. It can not be disputed. As sure as night follows day No is not an option.

Whereas a theory being scientific or otherwise is not a fact and a theory is something that can not be proven as it is an assembley of various facts ordered in such a way as to make the theory seem possible. The theory itself is not a fact. I rest my F in case

History is littered with scientific theory that after a few decades or centurys is found to be not the case at all

for example

The number of planets

The orbit of the Earth or Not.

The Speed of Sound

etc etc

Can you think of anymore?

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ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
3 points

The problem with scientists is that they dont know when they are licked - having ego's the size of The known Universe helps. being as we say know it alls - yet the truth is a fact is a fact. it is 100% the case, there is no doubt. It can not be disputed. As sure as night follows day No is not an option.

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. I'll take it English isn't your first language, so could you please clarify this?

Whereas a theory being scientific or otherwise is not a fact and a theory is something that can not be proven as it is an assembley of various facts ordered in such a way as to make the theory seem possible. The theory itself is not a fact. I rest my F in case

Again, this is nonsensical. Following this line of reasoning, one can assert that gravity is not a fact.

The number of planets

Not a theory at the time.

The orbit of the Earth or Not.

Not a theory at the time.

The Speed of Sound

Not a theory at the time.

Side: Its a fact because......
2 points

Definately a Theory because it is self defining "The Theory of Evolution"

Side: Its just a theory.
1 point

Definately a Theory because it is self defining "The Theory of Evolution"

Side: Its just a theory.
Cuaroc(8827) Disputed
1 point

Do you even know what a scientific theory means ?

Side: Its a fact because......
1 point

Scientific Theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.

You got that right, it is a theory, as well as a fact.

Creationism and intelligent designs are only hypothesis, they don't even qualify as theories.

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Linsdip(111) Disputed
1 point

I understand that DNA similarities between us and apes is used as your so called proof that evolution is a fact. For example

DNA Variation between humans can be up to 0.5% (99.5% similarity)

Chimpanzees are 96% to 98% similar to humans, depending on how it is calculated.

Cats have 90% of homologous genes with humans, 82% with dogs, 80% with cows, 79% with chimpanzees, 69% with rats and 67% with mice.

Cows (Bos taurus) are 80% genetically similar to humans

75% of mouse genes have equivalents in humans,

The fruit fly (Drosophila) shares about 60% of its DNA with humans

About 60% of chicken genes correspond to a similar human gene.

These figures do not prove evolution, they are small facts that can be used to explain a theory

Imagine this - It could be argued that a BMW and a Mercedes are 99% similar technically speaking made of the same materials and using the same technology. Although a BMW is not related to a Mercedes and will never evolve into one. However both were designed by humans who have come up with similar outputs ie the products, having started with a blank sheet as it were.

This would suggest design and creative processes. I conclude we do not know that Apes evolved into Man as the theory conveniently tells us it happened over a vast amount of time. Whereas I know a BMW didnt evolve into a Mercedes because I have lived long enough to make the observation for myself.

Side: Its just a theory.
2 points

It's obviously a theory, but let me ask you this srom.

Do you believe that there was a past of the universe and now you are here, in the now. In other words, do you feel that humans came after the creation of other life forms, for example sea creatures and birds?

Genesis states that before "adam and eve" were born, the land, sea were created and animals populated both the land and sea BEFORE humans were created. So therefore, you should believe in the theory of evolution as well. Don't you think?

Side: Its just a theory.
1 point

The theory of evolution directly refutes how god created the animals and man kind.

Evolution says that from the first cell, all life was evolving through natural selection. Eventually through enough generations of natural selection, man arose.

I believe in Genesis it says that God created all the animals and that god created Adam, and then took the man's rib and made Eve. Evolution does not state anything like that.

So how anybody can believe in Genesis, and believe in evolution, that makes no sense to me. Because they directly refute each other.

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Lynaldea(1231) Disputed
4 points

My god man....

It's simple.

Evolution as you say, states a single cell eventually leading up to us, via natural selection and "survival of the fittest". Mmk? Again, as you say.

Genesis states that god created animals and land (of earth), sea animals and birds, ect. THEN he created man AFTER he created life (or rather it could be said a single cell organism came first, then HUMANS, yay!)

SO.

Evolution and creationism in my opinion DO NOT REFUTE EACH OTHER. They compliment each other. HOW SO?

Here's how.

Since evolution states a PROCESS of evolving, aka first cell to animals to us.

And creationist claim god created everything, from the Book of Genesis.

I say, the only differences between the two thoughts are that one (evolution) does not state whether a higher being created it, it just "was" and viola here we are, humans stemming from a previous existence of that single cell life form. AND secondly, creationists believe the earth is merely a couple thousand years old, when evolutionists claim the universe is something like a couple thousand million years old; obviously a difference in number, but merely NO difference in THAT there were previous life forms BEFORE humans then came us humans.

To me both of these theories look very similar, in terms of LOGIC and how LOGIC work. On the other hand, if you believe in genesis, it states life was created BEFORE human beings, going HAND IN HAND with evolutionary theorists. Life came first, then humans came after that original life form.

Creationists believe we were created after other life forms were there before.

Evolutionists believe we were created after other life forms were there before.

How's that work for you?

Side: Its just a theory.
1 point

1. They don't. Yeah you've got a lot of people saying it's fact but the real scientists aren't saying that.

2. Sometimes you can't really call something fact even though it's almost definitely true. In the scientific world theory is often the most solid something can be.

Side: Its just a theory.
2 points

1. They don't. Yeah you've got a lot of people saying it's fact but the real scientists aren't saying that.

Are you implying that Richard Dawkins is not a real scientist? In other words, yes the real scientists are calling evolution a fact.

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1 point

The real scientists call evolution both a theory and a fact. I'll post a link for you:

Evolution is a fact and theory

2. Sometimes you can't really call something fact even though it's almost definitely true.

Do you know what a scientific fact is? I'll post the definition for you:

an observation that has been confirmed repeatedly and is accepted as true (although its truth is never final)

If you had done your research, you would realize that fact does not equal absolute truth. But let's be honest, we know you don't do much research. That would be too burdensome for you after all.

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1 point

While there is evidence for the subject of Evolution, it is only a theory. There is no definitive proof on the subject. Sure, we have EVIDENCE, but not absolute confirmation. How can we be sure? Have we watched a bird grow larger wings to survive its environment? No. Has God descended from the heavens and said he evolved us? No. There is no absolute confirmation of evolution, making it only a theory. (BTW, I believe in evolution, so dont have a go lol)

Side: Its just a theory.
3 points

it is only a theory.

You must not know what a theory is. I'll post the definition for you:

a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.

Pretty much it means that a theory is about as close to the truth as you can get. No theory is absolute, including the theory of gravity. But I don't see you doubting gravity, do I?

Have we watched a bird grow larger wings to survive its environment? No.

We have already witnessed macro evolution before.

Has God descended from the heavens and said he evolved us? No.

Correct. God says that he existed forever and created us from nothing. Definitely 5 billion times more believable and scientifically proven than that pesky evolution nonsense that actual scientists with real degrees keep promoting.

There is no absolute confirmation of evolution, making it only a theory.

I must ask, do you have any idea what you're talking about? You don't even know the definition of a theory in science. Only a theory? Seriously? I feel sorry for you...

(BTW, I believe in evolution, so dont have a go lol)

Then why do you seem to take the stance of "well, it hasn't been absolutely confirmed, so there's a chance it might be wrong..." ??

Side: Its a fact because......
Linsdip(111) Disputed
1 point

You havent answered what I said, so I repeat, a theory is an interpretation of facts it isnt actually factual it self thats why it is theory and may be wrong

Side: Its just a theory.
BrambleStar(3) Disputed
1 point

"You must not know what a theory is. I'll post the definition for you:

a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."

Yes. A theory is explanation based on facts. This. IS. Evolution. An explanation of what we have witnessed, backed by facts and evidence.

Pretty much it means that a theory is about as close to the truth as you can get. No theory is absolute, including the theory of gravity. But I don't see you doubting gravity, do I?

"Have we watched a bird grow larger wings to survive its environment? No.

We have already witnessed macro evolution before."

Have we? I didn't realise that we have witnessed somethng in our brief existance that takes thousands of years.

"Has God descended from the heavens and said he evolved us? No.

Correct. God says that he existed forever and created us from nothing. Definitely 5 billion times more believable and scientifically proven than that pesky evolution nonsense that actual scientists with real degrees keep promoting"

I think this bit is the best. I have already told you I believe in Evolution. I am an Atheist, I was using a religous perspective in m view to simply show other sides off to the rest of you. If you take that as a sign that I am Christian, I pity you. Real degrees? Watch out everybody, we have a badass over here. I have a real degree, so I think we'll leave that one here.

"There is no absolute confirmation of evolution, making it only a theory.

I must ask, do you have any idea what you're talking about? You don't even know the definition of a theory in science. Only a theory? Seriously? I feel sorry for you..."

No my friend, after this, I pity you.

"(BTW, I believe in evolution, so dont have a go lol)

Then why do you seem to take the stance of "well, it hasn't been absolutely confirmed, so there's a chance it might be wrong..." ??"

Because it is better to see both sides of the arguements then just not being able to see past your own narrow mind.

Have a nice day.

Side: Its just a theory.
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I will also add that it is the only tax supported RELIGION.

Side: Its just a theory.
modorichie(152) Disputed
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Science is NOT a religion.

knowledge attained through study or practice," or "knowledge covering general truths of the operation of general laws, esp. as obtained and tested through scientific method [and] concerned with the physical world."

I'll give you a challenge, come up with another theory and put it out to scientific review.

The only other explanation is that there is a world wide conspiracy that only Paleontologist, Biogeographists, Developmental biologists, Morphologists, and Geneticst and any other discipline whos research independently points to evolution are aware of.

ALL 99.85% OF THEM! RIGHT ACROSS THE WORLD. US, China, Iran, Pakistan, Europe, Russia, South Affrica, Egypt, South America, Middle East. etc etc.

How they manage to organise and maintain this conspiracy must take up most of their time.

LOL

Side: Its a fact because......
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We don't know if they are right or if they are wrong. A theory is a fact until materially proven wrong. All theories are thought as true by the scientist until proven wrong, not proven right.

Side: Its just a theory.

It is still a theory. Why? May i ask who among here have seen the evolution? None of course.There are no witness accounts of evolution. Based on the fundamental laws of science. Observable data are presumed to be true if one may utilize human senses upon it. Thus if any one in this forum has seen, smelled, tasted, felt, or heard the evolution, speak, for him have i offended. Thus none will do so since the event was not seen upon contact and thus still assumed as a theory until a caveman time travels to tell the tale.

Side: Its just a theory.
Cuaroc(8827) Disputed
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You another theists that doesn't know what scientific theory means?

May i ask who among here have seen the evolution? None of course.There are no witness accounts of evolution.

Same things can be said with god.

It is still a theory. Why? May i ask who among here have seen the evolution? None of course.There are no witness accounts of evolution. Based on the fundamental laws of science. Observable data are presumed to be true if one may utilize human senses upon it. Thus if any one in this forum has seen, smelled, tasted, felt, or heard the evolution, speak, for him have i offended. Thus none will do so since the event was not seen upon contact and thus still assumed as a theory until a caveman time travels to tell the tale

So you don't think gravity is real either? Oh and evolution has been observed.

Side: Its a fact because......
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Yes it is true that none have seen God in his true form. But his being manifests through his creations and teachings in the art of faith. Obviously gravity is real for it can be felt and observed.

I am not saying that there are no possibilities that evolution is possible. Science can explain many things but there still things that Science has not fully explained. Science is also a way to understand God through his creations.

The first and more manifest way is the argument from motion. It is certain, and evident to our senses, that in the world some things are in motion. Now whatever is in motion is put in motion by another, for nothing can be in motion except it is in potentiality to that towards which it is in motion; whereas a thing moves inasmuch as it is in act. For motion is nothing else than the reduction of something from potentiality to actuality. But nothing can be reduced from potentiality to actuality, except by something in a state of actuality. Thus that which is actually hot, as fire, makes wood, which is potentially hot, to be actually hot, and thereby moves and changes it. Now it is not possible that the same thing should be at once in actuality and potentiality in the same respect, but only in different respects. For what is actually hot cannot simultaneously be potentially hot; but it is simultaneously potentially cold. It is therefore impossible that in the same respect and in the same way a thing should be both mover and moved, i.e. that it should move itself. Therefore, whatever is in motion must be put in motion by another. If that by which it is put in motion be itself put in motion, then this also must needs be put in motion by another, and that by another again. But this cannot go on to infinity, because then there would be no first mover, and, consequently, no other mover; seeing that subsequent movers move only inasmuch as they are put in motion by the first mover; as the staff moves only because it is put in motion by the hand. Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.

-St. Thomas Aquinas

Side: Its just a theory.
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Though evolution is a theory, scientists claim it a fact. Because it is not permanent. Scientists do something for a temporary period only.

Side: Its just a theory.
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No, this doesn't make sense. Evolution is both a theory and a fact. We know that evolution happens, we've observed it. It doesn't "graduate" the word theory and become the "Law of Evolution". Evolution has already been confirmed thousands if not millions of times.

Scientists do not just do things for a temporary period of time, they're always trying to learn things.

Side: Its a fact because......