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because Israelis are Jews Because Hamas is more evil
Debate Score:53
Arguments:46
Total Votes:59
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Why does Israel think it is entitled to the land of Israel?

because Israelis are Jews

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Because Hamas is more evil

Side Score: 26
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Why does Israel think it is entitled to the land of Israel?

Hello Pestilence,

Look. If you found a land called Pestilencia, wouldn’t you think it was your land??

Dude!!

excon

Side: because Israelis are Jews
Pestilence(128) Disputed
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Look. If you found a land called Pestilencia, wouldn’t you think it was your land??

Your reasoning is juvenile and overly-simplistic. Who decides what a land is called?

Side: Because Hamas is more evil
Chinaman(2379) Clarified
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Democrat are you 97 percent full blooded Jew. Did Obama who you voted for support you Jews.

Side: because Israelis are Jews
Saltal(196) Banned
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The Jewish people's claim to Israel is legally, morally and historically water tight.

1)God pledged this Land to Abraham and the Jewish people rightly consider Israel to be The Promised land.

2)The Jewish people settled and developed this country as a safe haven after WW2 which saw the murder of SIX MILLION JEWS OF MIXED NATIONALITIES.

3)The Jewish people were granted sovereignty in Palestine by the international community.

4)The additional territories they currently occupy were captured in defensive wars after they were attacked by the aggressive Muslim nations that surround them.

5) In their usual manner the Jewish people have turned what was a barren waste land into a prosperous, economically thriving nation.

Their character trait of self-reliance means they can take care of themselves.

Side: because Israelis are Jews
Pestilence(128) Disputed
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If you're going to make long, stupid posts and expect to get a reaction you should think about the way you ignore others' posts and expect the same.

Side: Because Hamas is more evil
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The Jewish people's claim to Israel is legally, morally and historically water tight.

Everything you just wrote is the complete opposite of true. The land was conquered by the British and then given away following a lengthy terrorist campaign by the Irgun, in which they bombed and murdered many people, including 93 at a hotel bombing in British Palestine.

God pledged this Land to Abraham

According to Jewish scripture. By that same logic, God pledged England to me and I have a self-written book which proves it.

Shut up mate. Honestly.

Side: Because Hamas is more evil

OK..., so, basically... it went down like this:

The Jews: "Where did you get the land from?"

The Palestinians: "From our forefathers."

The Jews: "Where did they get the land from?"

The Palestinians: "From their forefathers."

The Jews: "Where did the first Palestinian get the land from?"

The Palestinians: "They fought for it."

The Jews: "OK, we'll fight you for it."

And they've been fighting for it ever since ;)

Fighting for land is a time honored tradition that goes back thousands of years ;)

Side: because Israelis are Jews

Joe, that's not actually a million miles from the truth of it.

That being said, actually living on the land when a foreign power arbitrarily decides to give it away to someone else without consulting the inhabitants first will always give the true moral high ground to the Palestinians.

Side: because Israelis are Jews

That's a Moo Point. In other words, like a cow's opinion, it doesn't matter. How do you think America was created ;)

Side: because Israelis are Jews

The whole Palestine/Israel issue is like the longest running soccer game. There are 2 teams (Israel and Palestine) and there are fans cheering for their team. Every once in a while the fans get riled up and start to brawl. But the point is that the whole match should be entertaining. Are you not entertained yet ;)

Side: because Israelis are Jews
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The whole Palestine/Israel issue is like the longest running soccer game. There are 2 teams (Israel and Palestine)

Yeah. You forgot to mention one of those teams has a nuclear arsenal.

Side: Because Hamas is more evil

Every year, one soccer player is identified as the best in show (i.e., the nuclear weapon). Some teams have a lot of good players ;)

Side: Because Hamas is more evil
Pestilence(128) Disputed
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Here are the flaws in your logic.

1) If you argue from a natural selection standpoint, you are not considering the fact that natural selection doesn't exist in humanity anymore. Israel is being "selected" arbitrarily by society because it is backed by almost the entire UN.

2) if you argue that neither are truly right and wrong, then you are essentially foregoing any moral high ground in future debates because you are saying that things like stealing land and murdering children are fair game.

Side: Because Hamas is more evil
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Israel is being "selected" arbitrarily by society because it is backed by almost the entire UN.

That isn't true at all. The UN has been among the very first to call into question the practices conducted by Israel and in fact has served literally hundreds of resolutions against the country. The problem is more complex. The US holds a disproportionate amount of authority at the UN as a superpower and it is (and always has been) thoroughly in bed with the Israelis. The UN veto system is also deeply flawed, because the Americans (and the Israelis, to a lesser extent) can apply diplomatic pressure to influence other states to exercise their veto power.

Side: because Israelis are Jews

I am flattered that you used the word "logic" when referencing my arguments ;)

I do address the issue of unnatural selection in another argument on here.

Murdering children is fair game. What do you think abortion is all about ;)

Side: Because Hamas is more evil
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Why does Israel think it is entitled to the land of Israel?

Hello hater:

I dunno how you don't know this, but you clearly don't.. Since the dawn of man, man KEPT the land that he could HOLD.

Is it right??? Right plays no part...

excon

Side: because Israelis are Jews
Pestilence(128) Disputed
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I dunno how you don't know this, but you clearly don't.. Since the dawn of man, man KEPT the land that he could HOLD.

Is it right??? Right plays no part...

Okay, so I can go to your house and shoot you and basically just set up shop there right? Is that how life should work?

Side: Because Hamas is more evil
excon(13662) Disputed
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Okay, so I can go to your house and shoot you and basically just set up shop there right? Is that how life should work?

Hello again, hater:

I'm not sure WHY you're having difficulty understanding what I'm saying.. It's pretty simple, really... The KEY word is HOLD..

Truly, if you come to my house, shoot me, and TRY to set up shop there, you will be prevented from doing so.. I can't imagine that you think otherwise.. Of course, you HATE Jews so your logic (if you have any) is clouded by your antisemitism.

Now, if you COULD hold my house, it's yours. Is it right?? Like I said, right plays no part in this equation..

excon, Jewish scholar

Side: because Israelis are Jews

Because possession is 9/10th of the law. That's 90% vs 10%. 90% wins.

Side: because Israelis are Jews
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