Why does religion still have a place in the 21st Century?
I can not comprehend why such nonsense is still being preached in todays society. It is simply not good enough to say you believe in such nonsense because it gives you hope for an afterlife etc.
I am not by any means a ground breaking scientist but even with knowledge of small bits of scientific education it seems as though all religious believers are absolutely deluded and brain washed!
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A combination of indoctrination and fear of death. Sure, if you told an adult of even average intelligence who had never been introduced to even the idea of a god or an afterlife that one god or another exists, they'd dismiss you as crazy. If they are raised in a society where nearly everyone believes in these fairytales though, and they themselves were told from a young age to believe or else, it makes a lot of sense that most people would take the easy route and go with it. Understanding just a little of human behavior, I don't think it's surprising at all that religion has survived. As if I had control to being born into this life, I did not have control, nor can I be blamed, of my human ancestors being curious about the notion of "how and why we're here" and the existence of a higher being. Indoctrination is obvious in that mankind, our species, is a curious being. Withthatsaid, of course it's like a huge game of telephone and it's the longest, most significant, and complex game of telephone ever created. So yes, mankinds curiosity and ambitious ideals resulted in mankind believing in higher beings. It is the 21st century and religion and believers will never seize to exist because mankind will always, always be curious of what is beyond the stars above and/or what is in front of me to be fed with a spoon. 0
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i dont want to sound rude, i would like to just point out that thre is soo much evidence for a deitys existence. of course you have your beliefs and i have mine but i feel it is wrong to talk about something this important with so much confidence when you have done no research... i dont want to sound rude, i would like to just point out that thre is soo much evidence for a deitys existence. False. There is no evidence for the existence of a god/s, nor is there any evidence against the existence of a god/s (hence the enormous debate between atheism and theism). i feel it is wrong to talk about something this important with so much confidence when you have done no research... Why? Because you fear a world/universe without a god/s? And yes, I have conducted research. Both sides in fact. Why do you think I became an atheist? I wasn't raised that way. I was originally a Christian. However, after thorough examination of both theist and atheists' arguments and evidence (although, theism has no evidence), it's obvious to conclude the atheism position is stronger. 3
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The truth? I guess. O.o An ignorance of other beliefs, one most identifiable as Atheism (which above all is more reasonable, seeing as it doesn't contain talking snakes and donkeys). Also an ignorance of their own mistakes/flaws in their beliefs. It is this shield of protection that draws them into these beliefs and can be applied to what Atypican posted into my knowledge "A sect or party is an elegant incognito devised to save a man from the vexation of thinking." ~ Emerson 1
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Because religion adapts and evolves. Here....read some material that will help you stop having so many stupid ideas about religion. . 1
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To take this debate on a little bit of a tangent, a recent worldwide poll has shown that atheism, and a lack of belief in a deity, is increasing worldwide, by quite a significant percentage. While religion still has a bit of a stranglehold over much of the world, it is clear that its days are numbered - something we should all be happy about. 1
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People believe in the collective and materialism. They believe in the greater good and the family unit. They believe that they are the center of the universe. They believe that they're not going to die any time soon. They believe that government is looking out for them. They believe that they won't get addicted. They believe that love lasts forever. People like to believe in made up things that make them feel better. The herd is too stupid to accept that all of it is just bullshit. I can not comprehend why such nonsense is still being preached in todays society. Nonsense? On what grounds? It is simply not good enough to say you believe in such nonsense because it gives you hope for an afterlife etc. Good enough for what? To satisfy you? How selfish. I am not by any means a ground breaking scientist I should hope not. That could endanger society. even with knowledge of small bits of scientific education it seems as though all religious believers are absolutely deluded and brain washed! What a horrible conclusion to make. Evidence that all those in religion are deluded and brain-washed? I didn't think so. This debate is pretty stupid. Nonsense? On what grounds? Generally when supporting a position with no evidence the burden of proof lies on that individual to prove it is not nonsense. To assume a position with no proof automatically is not nonsense off-hand is... nonsense. Good enough for what? To satisfy you? How selfish. Why is that selfish? He is saying that those defenses are not enough for him to justify belief in a god. You've not answered how those defenses would be enough to justify belief. You just called him a name and left it at that. I should hope not. That could endanger society. Come now, he was being modest. Did Jesus take cheap shots at people for being modest? What a horrible conclusion to make. Evidence that all those in religion are deluded and brain-washed? I didn't think so. Yet you've not shown how the conclusion is innacurate. You've based your argument on nothing but "I don't think so," which is far less compelling than the arguments put forth by the one you are debating. This debate is pretty stupid. Because it does not have a legitimate point? Or because it hurt your feelings? Because your argument sounds defensive and lacks any substance at all. Generally when supporting a position with no evidence the burden of proof lies on that individual to prove it is not nonsense. To assume a position with no proof automatically is not nonsense off-hand is... nonsense. I'm not making a claim. He is making a claim that all religion is nonsense, I want him to support it. Why is that selfish? He is saying that those defenses are not enough for him to justify belief in a god. You've not answered how those defenses would be enough to justify belief. You just called him a name and left it at that. Why do people have to "justify" their beliefs to other people? I called him selfish because I thought that's what the nature of his claim was. Sorry if I misunderstood. Come now, he was being modest. Did Jesus take cheap shots at people for being modest? He was being rather demeaning actually. He's implying that those with less than incredible intelligence "know" that all religious people are brainwashed. Yet you've not shown how the conclusion is innacurate. I want him to show how it is accurate. After all, he is the one who made the claim in the debate. Because it does not have a legitimate point? Or because it hurt your feelings? Because your argument sounds defensive and lacks any substance at all. It is not defensive, rather skeptical. I'm trying to understand his points, they also have no substance. Is there something wrong with that? 1
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If you have been closely paying attention to the news, you'd also see that it does not only have a place, it is back, as a purpose, as a foundation for human identity, as a tool to justify violence and so on. Religion isn't only about God, or believing in God. The three monotheist religions clearly dictate a way of living, it's not only an empty belief. And just to clarify, I'm talking about the three monotheist religions because I know nothing of the other religions, not because I'm some kind of fanatic. So after all, perhaps people want codes to define what their everyday life should be like, and just something to believe in. It must be part of our human nature to be feeling constantly alone in this world, establishing some kind of treaty with a much stronger, invisible, intangible creature would be a way to feel a bit protected by it, if we pray enough. And that feeling is intensified by the fact that we do not know where we come from, we do not know who we are, and we do not know who we are supposed to be. So some turn to holy books to tell them the right thing to do. But this is a really hard question to answer, and I should have probably taken more time to do so. Religion has retained a focal place in many societies because it is a biological phenomenon as much as it is a social one. There is considerable research indicating that religion and spirituality are either evolutionary byproducts or evolutionary adaptations (see, for instance: http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/ Quite likely religion will retain a position in society for the foreseeable future. This is not because it rational or reasonable, but because the majority of the human species continues to need a sense of cosmic purpose. This need trumps reason and is supported by various features of human development (e.g. animacy detection). 1
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