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 Why is Obama not patriotic? (19)

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Why is Obama not patriotic?

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Everyone shows their emotions in different ways and so some may not think he is patriotic but he can still be patriotic. It is better for some one to have an objective view and not be tied dow by excessive loyalties I my self do not pledge allegiance to any country. Also to the leading reason right now the U.S. political system is a communist plot to spread communism.

Side: who gives a dam
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you make so very very weary.....

you do know this kind of whinny shit storm is exactly why every other country is embarrassed to be seen in the same room as America for the last couple of decades?

and while were on the topic of him being a communist did you also know hes a Muslim? and went to a racist church? and is the anti Christ? also he part of the Illuminati, wants to eat baby's, is creating death panels, and oh, free mason's, just throwing it out there

Side: who gives a dam
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Isn't it important for the President of the United States of America to honor and respect those who serve and have served?

and while were on the topic of him being a communist did you also know hes a Muslim? and went to a racist church? and is the anti Christ? also he part of the Illuminati, wants to eat baby's, is creating death panels, and oh, free mason's, just throwing it out there

I guess this is what being a liberal is.

Side: communist
1 point

I would say, "So what?" However this is too short a reply.

How about:

"Why should we force a person to act in conformity in the name of patriotism? Aren't we big enough to allow demonstrations of protest or dissenting thoughts and behaviours? When did nationalism become your religion?"

Also:

"Anyone who thinks Obama is a communist doesn't know what communism is, and is an utter fool."

Side: Because PrayerFails is a Lunatic
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He ran for President, and is now elected.

You are suggesting that Obama doesn't have to show respect for those men and women killed while serving the United States.

You and him apparently don't give a fuck for those who died.

When did nationalism become your religion?"

Never was. I do one should respect the office of the President and he clearly doesn't.

"Anyone who thinks Obama is a communist doesn't know what communism is, and is an utter fool."

I know what communism is, and he may not be overtly communist, but he is socialist, and he admitted it here.

Side: communist
aveskde(1935) Disputed
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He ran for President, and is now elected.

You are suggesting that Obama doesn't have to show respect for those men and women killed while serving the United States.

You and him apparently don't give a fuck for those who died.

I'm surprised you "give a fuck" for those people. Where's the money in you caring? How does it advance your personal interests to care?

It's not like you're a bleeding heart who has feelings for others. You'd compost their dead bodies and sell it as manure if you could.

So basically I'm asking, what's your game?

Never was. I do one should respect the office of the President and he clearly doesn't.

He is articulate, well-considered, and very tactical. I think this enables him to perform his function as president very effectively, and I believe this to be much more significant than symbolism designed to distract people. I think it is much more respectful to the office that he is working to improve this nation, and not merely squandering time and power.

I know what communism is, and he may not be overtly communist, but he is socialist, and he admitted it here.

I don't really know what to say here that would be efficacious since you're really desperate to assassinate his character, so I'll just pretend that I'm addressing any readers other than you who see this.

Socialism is a plan to essentially ban private ownership of companies and replace them with state-owned institutions, along with a followup wage control (it's all more complicated than this, but brevity requires me to condense it). Sometimes this works, sometimes it fails miserably.

What Democrats and Obama have done is reform private health care by adding laws banning certain behaviours of private companies, requiring others to provide insurance, closing loopholes, and expanding the state-funded programs. It isn't socialist since the insurance is still privatised. What he said about taxes was a general statement about reforms, that redistributing wealth is designed to help everyone enjoy a higher standard of living. Socialist programs will do this, but generally on a much more sophisticated scale. Remember that we have a mixed economy. It isn't capitalist or socialist in the pure sense, it has elements of each.

Anarcho-capitalists and libertarians are strongly afflicted with a sense of greed and selfishness. It isn't enough that they can make millions or even billions of dollars in this economy, they believe that this money must be theirs, every penny of it, and that they should only be accountable to themselves. That is why it fills them with such anger at the thought of being forced to help others with their income. To the libertarian mind, poverty is the fault of the poor.

Oh, also, final point that goes without saying: socialism isn't communism. Just like a monarchy isn't a democracy.

Side: Because PrayerFails is a Lunatic

If he would just show a little respect for the dead. Even Hillary Clinton has her hand over her heart.

Side: Because PrayerFails is a Lunatic

President Obama is patriotic. He wears a flag lapel on his coat, he salutes the Marines, and he stands during The Star-Spangled Banner. He also visits Arlington National Cemetery to lay a wreath at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier on Memorial Day.

Side: Because PrayerFails is a Lunatic

Probably because Obama is a communist.-----------------------

Side: communist