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Son of Eloheem Son of the accursed
Debate Score:15
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Why the black race is cursed

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

28 And so too shall all the descendants of Ham be subjugated, and they shall be servants amongst men for all time.

The black race is descended from Cush, a son of Ham and a grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:16). After the languages were confused and the people were dispersed at the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), the descendants of Cush moved into Africa and grew into the black African nations.

Ham is from a Hebrew word meaning hot as in “freshly baked”. We might say he had a dark tan from the Sun. Cush means “black” in Hebrew and is sometimes used in referring to the ancient Ethiopians.

Son of Eloheem

Side Score: 10

Son of the accursed

Side Score: 5

The black race isn't cursed. The liberals welcome them and Hispanics to come and pick their cotton....

Side: Son of Eloheem
1 point

"for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted."

Side: Son of Eloheem
1 point

I dispute what you say about "The black race" coming from Ham. The "Black race" is a created thing, it is made up. Besides that, even assuming these descendants of Ham roam the Earth, they would likely have every skin color you could think of.

Side: Son of Eloheem
EloheemSon(24) Disputed
1 point

The black race was created by the inferiority of the accursed ones. The verse you posted above is not meant to be taken literally when it comes to the word servant. It is more metaphorical, it basically means "help each other out and don't think you're better than your brethren because arrogant douche bags think they're great but they're not." The black race is a real thing, they are distinctly different. It says in the bible that they are inferior to the pure white race who are Eloheem.

Side: Son of the accursed
TzarPepe(792) Disputed
1 point

So what about a white person who is descended from Ham, do you think they are cursed too?

Why does skin color have to do with anything?

Side: Son of Eloheem
1 point

So basically, the man who got sh!t faced drunk and committed public indecency remains God's chosen man, and the ones who caught him doing it and told about it are cursed for being bad people? Think about that now. What would Fox News says? Wouldn't Fox News blame the drunken fool, and smear the people who helped cover it up, and praise the ones who just walked away saying something isn't right with Noah?

The problem with religion is you get used to hearing the same bull so many times that you never really really stop to think about it.

Side: Son of the accursed
1 point

The black race isn't cursed in the accepted sense of the word.

It's just that mother nature has redundanized ' The Bongo' but, through some form of misguided 'black guilt', whites are keeping them artificially alive with aid and handouts.

Side: Son of the accursed
EloheemSon(24) Clarified
1 point


God acts through the forces of nature. Just as all men live through God, a servant can only live through his master.

Side: Son of Eloheem
Antrim(1297) Clarified
1 point

Hallelujah brother, hallelujah.

If you believe that you'd believe horse balls were lemons.

Don't take any chances and make sure your mummy buys the fruit for your house.

Side: Son of Eloheem
1 point

Gotta be tough being a Mormon now days. No amount of Magic underwear is going to save your withering cult. Now that Mormon’s can get on a computer and get to the the truth they’re fleeing the cult faster every day.

If only “Bring-em Young” could see it unravel.

Anyone who want’s read the truth about Mormonism should go to

Side: Son of the accursed