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Debate Score:15
Arguments:19
Total Votes:15
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Will Derek Chauvin get an unbiased Jury?

Does it matter?

Yes

Side Score: 6
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No

Side Score: 9
1 point

I feel that due to the way the left wing media has reported this unfortunate incident it is doubtful that a purely objective and impartial jury could be formed.

However, when the full facts of this case are presented and are considered dispassionately I'm certain that the murder charge against ex police Officer Chauvin will be reduced to manslaughter.

If he is found guilty of the lesser of the two charges and the recorded circumstances which led to the suspect's death are also examined impartially Derek Chauvin's sentence will be, justifiably significantly reduced.

Side: Yes
Rusticus(1861) Disputed
3 points

Let's face it, the only safe place for Chauvin inside this country is in solitary confinement.

Side: No
Dermot(5688) Disputed
1 point

How do you feel about the victims of Floyd’s 2007 aggravated robbery?

Side: Yes
Amarel(5137) Clarified
1 point

Does it matter ?

Side: Yes
1 point

Will Derek Chauvin get an unbiased Jury?

Hello A:

I dunno.. In my view, cops charged with killing unarmed black people are SELDOM found guilty.. Do I think the Chauvin case will be different??? NOOO, I don't..

excon

Side: No
NigerInnis(60) Disputed
1 point

I dunno.. In my view, cops charged with killing unarmed black people are SELDOM found guilty.. Do I think the Chauvin case will be different??? NOOO, I don't..

And you believe this while knowing fully well these judges in these Democrat run cities are liberals. Yet you still shine the left's shoes and pick their crops. If I had a shirt that said cotton picker on it, I'd send it to you.

Side: Yes
excon(14555) Disputed
1 point

And you believe this while knowing fully well these judges in these Democrat run cities are liberals

Hello N:

Couple things. I don't know that.. I don't believe that. For the most part, I BELIEVE that judges follow the law - BOTH liberal judges and conservative judges..

But, the question was about jury's, not judges.. Having said that, I absolutely BELIEVE that juries are BIASED FOR cops - not against them..

excon

Side: No
FredJones(15) Disputed
1 point

I dunno.. In my view, cops charged with killing unarmed black people are SELDOM found guilty.

Brailsford's trial for second-degree murder (of a white man) was originally scheduled for February 2017. A defense motion challenging the state's probable cause to send the case to trial; appeals to the Arizona Supreme Court over the release of controversially redacted footage from Brailsford's body camera made a February trial unrealistic. On February 10, 2017, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge George Foster rescheduled the trial for October 23, 2017. Brailsford faced up to 25 years in prison if found guilty of second-degree murder.

On December 7, 2017, after a six week trial, a jury acquitted Brailsford of all charges.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting ofDaniel_Shaver

Side: Yes
excon(14555) Disputed
1 point

Brailsford faced up to 25 years in prison if found guilty of second-degree murder.

Hello F:

One cop?? ONE COP???? DUDE!!

Justice isn't ONE COP being convicted.. Justice is when ALL the cops who murder are convicted.

Dude!

excon

Side: No
1 point

No one can ensure a jury is 100% unbiased, the courts can only come as close as possible , this is all anyone can expect.

Floyd was a low life criminal no matter what way you dress it up anyone with a rap sheet like his fills the criteria to merit such a label ....

Between 1997 and 2005, he was convicted of eight crimes; in 2009, he accepted a plea bargain for a 2007 aggravated robbery, serving four years in prison. I

The original 911 call said Floyd was high as a kite and foaming at the mouth Floyd was intoxicated on fentanyl and had methamphetamine in his system, and the body-cam transcript reveals that Floyd was literally foaming at the mouth

Of course in these times it’s apparently racist to mention such facts people fail to remember Floyd was a criminal and not the heroic saint he’s now being portrayed as

Side: No
Amarel(5137) Clarified
1 point

The fact that Floyd deserved to be arrested can't be an argument for killing him slowly in the street. Similarly, the fact that Chauvin deserved to be charged for Floyd's death cannot be an argument against him having a reasonably fair trial.

I know the jury can't be truly and fully unbiased. But after what has transpired, can we believe they will be even somewhat unbiased?

Side: Yes
Dermot(5688) Clarified
1 point

The fact that Floyd deserved to be arrested can't be an argument for killing him slowly in the street.

Yes , I agree. The rationale for the actions of the officers actions has to be examined and consideration of these factors taken into account ......

Washington Post

In the final moments of George Floyd’s life, as he laid face down and Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin knelt on his neck, another officer asked Chauvin if they should roll Floyd onto his side. “I am worried about excited delirium or whatever,” the officer told Chauvin, according to authorities. Chauvin refused to turn over Floyd, who was pronounced dead shortly after. This article was published in partnership with Slate.The officer, Thomas Lane, was talking about a controversial diagnosis often cited when people die in police custody. People with excited delirium are said to be aggressive and incoherent, and to have “superhuman strength,” often after taking stimulant drugs such as cocaine or methamphetamine. Police groups and some experts say it’s a real condition, requiring immediate action and medical treatment.

Similarly, the fact that Chauvin deserved to be charged for Floyd's death cannot be an argument against him having a reasonably fair trial.

Yes again I agree , I don’t think he will get a fair trial though .

I know the jury can't be truly and fully unbiased. But after what has transpired, can we believe they will be even somewhat unbiased?

I think every commentator on this case has firmly nailed their colours firmly to the mast .The whole case has become international with people all over the world taking to the streets , over here mindless idiots talk about BLM and if one states “surely all lives matter “ one is deemed a racist , you’re either a fan of Floyd’s or your a racist who favours police brutality.

In this particular case I cannot even imagine even one member of a jury even considering anything but the harshest penalty for Chauvin , the whole world will watch this case and the baying mob will demand blood.

Imagine if Chauvin was found not guilty of all charges? It’s incredible to think what the outcome will be?

The media internationally talks about police corruption and police brutality in the US especially against blacks and the commentary on such is designed to add fuel to the fire and whip emotions up to fever pitch.

The Elephant in the room is the fact that black criminality and the figures for such are staggering in the US , if this is even sugggested again it’s blamed on “The man “ and the Historical mistreatment of blacks which is a cop out and a collective failure to actually do something about it

Side: Yes
1 point

Floyd was a low life criminal

He was a person just like every other person, with hopes, aspirations, relationships and individual characteristics. Stop trying to dehumanise him you obnoxious little prick.

Side: Yes
Dermot(5688) Disputed
1 point

He was a person just like every other person, with hopes, aspirations, relationships and individual characteristics.

He was a person indeed well done Sherlock , he was not like any other person I don’t know anyone who is.

You say some very silly things don’t you?

His ‘hopes ‘ at one stage included aggravated robbery and his aspirations on the day he lost his life were to pass a dud 20 note off in a shop to fuel his addictions , I’m pleased you didn’t call his aspirations noble.

Stop trying to dehumanise him you obnoxious little prick.

I’m not attempting that as I include low life criminals like him in the whole mix we call humanity ......hey I even include you ......happy now?

Side: No