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Will you take the ObamaCare RFID chips?
People of faith, tell me if this doesn't sound familiar. Non-believers, think of this in terms of our current civilization - societal collapse, Communism, catastrophe, perhaps? You decide.
Why do you guys do things like this? Make up lies and BS to smear the policies of this president and the president himself. If you are going to argue against Obama and Obamacare, do so on its merits, not lies and BS like this. "Obama's a muslim! Obama was born in Kenya! -releases birth certificate- It's a fake! Obama hates America! Obamacare is like the Nazis! Obama wants to put tracking chips in you..LIKE STALIN! Obama is Hitler! Blah blah blah..."
I have given you the facts to back up my argument, plain as day. Do you mean to tell me that when you hear indefinite detainment in military prisons (which translates to you will NEVER get out of Guantanamo Bay) without a trial (which means they can snatch you up off the street and immediately detain you without following due process), that doesn't sound frightening to you? Gee, indefinite detainment. Military prisons. No right to trial. Sounds VERY similar to how the Jewish holocaust began.
As for the RFID chips, I don't know how many times I have to quote the direct verbage from the bill, but if you still don't believe even after seeing the proof, then I'd only be wasting my time going over it, yet again.
I have proven the facts, over and over. Obama said he would remove the offensive provisions from the bill, and you took him at his word without reading the bill again. Good job, he screwed us and you over, but it's okay, apparently.
He said the provisions wouldn't apply to American citizens. Big deal. The law itself still states that he has the power to detain citizens but he won't. Furthermore, his promise doesn't hold any weight to begin with, since he is seriously contemplating signing the Enemy Expatriation Act, which would strip Americans of their citizenship basically using the same provisions as the NDAA - what do you think will happen then? Americans are conveniently stripped of their citizenship, then they become prime targets for indefinite detainment. Do you honestly think he won't find any loophole he can and use it? His signing statement was a lullaby to calm the masses so he could get his ass back into office. Once he gets that chance, we're screwed.
Go here to see the full PDF of the bill (H.R. 3200), pages 1001, Subtitle C, Section 2521. The device described in this bill is also defined on the FDA's website. And again, page 1003, Line 21 reads,
21 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection, the Secretary shall promul23
gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (1)."
Keep in mind that the term promulgate literally means "put (a law or decree) into effect by official proclamation." This is the second time I've done this, laid out the proof to someone who apparently wasn't listening. I won't repeat myself again, so pay attention.
Oh, and sort of off-topic, but if the down-vote is just used for "spam or blatantly erroneous arguments," then what's the up-vote button for? Just curious. It seems to me that if people like your comments/argument, they would naturally vote them up, and if they don't like one's arguments/comments, they vote them down. Maybe that's just me, though.
The specific section you are quoting was not included in HR 3590. This was pointed out in Apollo's Snopes article that you apparently never bothered to read.
Additionally, the Snopes article goes on to explain what the text you are quoting means; it doesn't mean we will have chips implanted, it means that congress will establish a registry of devices that have been (consentually) implanted into patients to track performance of the devices, etc. An example of this would be pacemakers. This text would have (if it had been enacted, which it wasn't) established a registry of pacemakers. Oh no!
The device is used to track patients, and for transmitting other information. As I just stated earlier, the FDA defined the device specified, and they are not just used to track patients and medical devices. They're also used in passports, to pay for public transportation and/or collect tolls, and to track schoolchildren (in some countries, specifically Japan).
As the article about these chips on Wikipedia states, "Since 2006, RFID tags included in new US passports will store the same information that is printed within the passport and also include a digital picture of the owner." And as many of you are aware, I would hope, the information needed to obtain a passport is very sensitive, not something you want random strangers having easy access to.
You still have no idea what you're talking about. "So we have in play 3 bills... HR 3200 (the general one known to the public), HR 3962 (the one that should have gone forward) and the Senate HR 3590 (which passed the House 416-0 but had nothing to do with healthcare)." - REFERENCE
The original HR 3590 was the "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009." Go ahead. Type that into Google and see where it takes you.
"AND HERE IS HR 3200....THE BILL THE PUBLIC FOUND OUT ABOUT AND STARTED TO DECIPHER....WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON FOR ALL THE SMOKE AND MIRROR SHELL GAME...
THIS RELATED LEGISLATION LINK TO HR 3962 WAS NOT PUT IN UNTIL AFTER 8NOV09 WHEN IT PASSED....WE STILL THOUGHT HR3200 WAS THE HEALTHCARE BILL...NOT KNOWING THERE WERE OTHERS..." - REFERENCE
Then they included this handy little HR 3200 Synopsis, figuring many wouldn't bother reading the entire bill.
My request is very simple. Copy and paste the textual evidence from PPACA that states that RFID's will be placed in all Americans. Show me the evidence. You have thusfar failed to do so.
No, absolutely not. I gave you a link the last time and even told you what pages to look on. My God, are you dense? I'm not your maid - quit being lazy and look it up yourself. Hey, maybe you could use that handy link I posted earlier that you ignored.
Not everyone likes to download massive PDF's. Though it is good to have the link handy to double-check the context of whatever you would post, it would save a lot of time for both parties if you just show us exactly what you consider to be proof.
I didn't have to download a thing. But you wouldn't know that because you didn't try, right? I'm not hand-feeding you people. I've included the text AND the link - take some initiative.
1.7 mb pdf...further, one that my computer doesn't want to read without downloading another program. I don't think I'd know that if I didn't try.
The text you printed was out of context. It didn't say word one about RFIDs. It simply said details about...something...that was never identified.
Meanwhile your other link simply gave some information about what an RFID is, but not its relevance to this topic.
Also, you are the one making a claim. If you actually give enough of a shit about this to try to warn people, you shouldn't be trying to rely on them to do the footwork to convince themselves. A cut-and-paste would save both parties a lot of time, and help focus the debate further.
So I am supposed to read a thousand page because some moronic internet user who thinks Obama and Hitler are identical says that RFID tracking chips will be forcibly placed into all people despite the fact that I have shown that to be false...
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If it's in there, why can;t you post the direct text of the bill that says so? Just face it. You have no evidence. This is just yet another pathetic, sickening attempt to smear our president...you guys really won't stop at anything...
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By the way, I legally have the right to murder and rape your children and family. My evidence? Why it's right here in HR 3962:
It's only 2000 pages. Look for yourself. If you don't you are just "ignorant." "I'm not your maid - quit being lazy and look it up yourself." "Hey, maybe you could use that handy link I posted."
Moronic internet user? Excuse me, but who's the one debating on something they obviously know nothing about, even though the information is easily accessible via... wait for it... THE INTERNET! Once more, if you would have paid attention, I told you which page the information was on, so you wouldn't have to skim through it. Seriously, keep up, it's exhausting having to carry you through this entire conversation. And, once again, the information is hosted on the government website - It's really quite simply to click the link I so handily provided for you.
The direct text:
"20 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry
21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med22
ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and
24 outcomes data on each device that—
25 ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and
1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,
4 life-supporting, or life-sustaining.
5 ‘‘(2) In developing the registry, the Secretary shall,
6 in consultation with the Commissioner of Food and Drugs."
The FDA defines this "Class II device that is implantable" as an "implantable radiofrequency transponder system for patient identification and health information." Furthermore, the FDA says that these transponders are used as follows:
- "Ensuring that patients receive the correct medications and medical devices"
- "Preventing the distribution of counterfeit drugs and medical devices"
- "Facilitating device recalls"
- "Managing assets such as hospital equipment"
- "Tracking patients"
- "Providing data for electronic medical records systems"
For future reference, know the issue before you participate in a debate. You make yourself look bad.
Haha. This is exactly what I was talking about. Lies...lies...and more lies...anything to smear our president.
THIS is the actual Obamacare bill that was passed and signed into law. The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
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1. What you cited was from another bill, one that was not passed. HR 3200.
2. That passage, while already irrelevant, simply talks about creating a Medical Device Registry for devices in hospitals (including chips that patients have VOLUNTARILY placed in themselves) for effectiveness and recall notices.
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And all of this was in the link I gave you way up t the top of the page. Glad to see you bothered to clic on it. And, knowing this, you have the nerve to call ME lazy?
You still have no idea what you're talking about. "So we have in play 3 bills... HR 3200 (the general one known to the public), HR 3962 (the one that should have gone forward) and the Senate HR 3590 (which passed the House 416-0 but had nothing to do with healthcare)." - Reference
The original HR 3590 was the "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009." Go ahead. Type that into Google and see where it takes you.
"AND HERE IS HR 3200....THE BILL THE PUBLIC FOUND OUT ABOUT AND STARTED TO DECIPHER....WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON FOR ALL THE SMOKE AND MIRROR SHELL GAME...
THIS RELATED LEGISLATION LINK TO HR 3962 WAS NOT PUT IN UNTIL AFTER 8NOV09 WHEN IT PASSED....WE STILL THOUGHT HR3200 WAS THE HEALTHCARE BILL...NOT KNOWING THERE WERE OTHERS..." - REFERENCE
Then they included this handy little HR 3200 Synopsis, figuring many wouldn't bother reading the entire bill.
Click on the Reference link, read it. That's all I can say. I don't know how else to prove it to you. HR 3590 passed but it's not the healthcare bill - the title is totally deceiving. The summary text of the bill is, "To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first-time homebuyers credit in the case of members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes."
HR 3200 is an obsolete bill now, yes. But it served for the framework of HR 3962, which is already law. The same text is in the bill that passed. It says that the Secretary (of Health and Human Services) will determine which devices are appropriate - she will also consult with "Commissioner of Food and Drugs, the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the Administrator of the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, the head of the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, and the Secretary of Veterans Affairs" to "determine the best methods for:"
- "(A) including in the registry,in a manner consistent with subsection (f), appropriate information to identify each covered device by type, model and serial number or other unique identifier,
- (B) validating methods for analyzing patient safety and outcomes data from multiple sources and for linking such data with the information included in the registry, including, to the extent feasible, use of -
- (i) data provided to the Secretary under other provisions of this chapter; and
- (ii) information from public and private sources identified under paragraph (3)."
What kind of data will be collected? The bill is actually quite vague, as it states:
"The term 'data' refers to information respecting a covered device, including claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."
This can be seen in the actual text of the bill, pages 1501-1505. The video below is also a good reference. Was this thorough enough, or would you like a novel next time?
The link to your loony conspiracy website...no thanks.
HR 3590 passed but it's not the healthcare bill
You have got to be kidding. A monkey could understand this. The bill that is passed and signed into law...is the law. A bill that isn't passed into law...isn't law. Jesus christ you're stupid...
HR 3200 is an obsolete bill now, yes.
Then why the hell are you calling it law, quoting it, and spreading lies about it intended to smear our president?
The same text is in the bill that passed.
Then why can't you post that text and a link to that bill so I can verify it?
1.) It's not a loony conspiracy website, it actually proves your BS wrong, which is what you,re afraid of.
2.) Maybe you don't have the mental capacity to understand what ai'm saying. Let me spell it out for you - HR 3950 passed but it wasn't about healthcare. It was to (now listen carefully) "amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first time homebuyers credit in the case of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes." I thought that was clear the first time I said it. Didn't you say "a monkey could understand this?" Evolution left you way behind, moron.
You know what, why are you even here? You're probably one of THE dumbest people I've ever spoken with. I wouldn't normally stoop to your level, but seriously, there's no working with you. The information's all there, you're purposely trying to be difficult which, in turn, make you look incredibly half-witted.
It was to (now listen carefully) "amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first time homebuyers credit in the case of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes." I thought that was clear the first time I said it.
And your point...it does many things.
Didn't you say "a monkey could understand this?" Evolution left you way behind, moron.
Once again, you are insulting me but only making yourself look stupid. We didn't evolve from modern monkeys. We had a common ancestor.
You're probably one of THE dumbest people I've ever spoken with.
Finally! This insult was grammatically correct and (mostly) congruous with scientific fact.
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Let's review your argument:
1. You claimed that Obamacare forced all people to have RFID's implanted in them. No evidence was given.
2. Then you cited text from THE WRONG BILL.
3. You cited text that didn't even mandate what you claimed. So even if it was law, that wouldn't be mandated.
4. I requested one simple thing: Cite the text from HR 3590 (PPACA) that stated your claim. You failed to do so.
5. Your argument, now shown for the ignorant piece of unintelligent, slanderous trash it is, having failed, you have resorted to insults.
The text you quoted does not mandate anyone buying/having these transponders. It just says that if the patient consents to have a class II device or a class III device, then they will be entered into a registry of the like.
And, again, this bill isn't law. It was rejected. The bill that was passed does not include this language.
Sorry, but you are indeed spreading a lie. It's impossible for me to prove that something does not exist in a bill (except for posting the entire bill and having you read it to see that it's not there).
The reality is that there were some more specific RFID provisions in an older version of the health care bill that DID NOT MAKE IT into the final bill that was passed.
Don't get me wrong, I think there are a lot of people in our government (and outside of it as well) that would love to have the entire nation/world chipped, and I do fear this reality.
But when people spread false information, it makes anti-microchipping activists look like fools and hurts your case, because people are less likely to believe you when the REAL times comes - and they may not take the issue seriously enough to realize all the evils that could come with it. It's really no different than the boy who cried wolf.
But no, this just isn't happening in May 2013. I guess I'll come back then to post and see what your argument is then.
Again, I do fear "big brother" may try to pull something like this a bit more down the road - but not that soon!
None of this is a lie. The Obamacare law is HR 3962 and the text is still there. I'm done telling people how to look it up and even providing the text for them, so see for yourself.
Make sure you pick the right Congress (2009-2010 was the 111th Congress - there is a link to find which Congress covers which years).
Then you can search by a word or phrase in a bill or by bill number.
That's all there is to it!
Then you will find that HR 3590 in the 111th Congress was indeed the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" which "Became Public Law No: 111-148"
You will be able to see Congressional actions on the bill (including how individual members voted, etc), and see the text of the legislation.
Since you have obviously been misled by whatever websites you are using for information, you should now disount information you get from them in the future and when people reference bills you will be able to see for yourself.
If you read about the RFID chip the bill that didn't passed was H.R 3200. The new bill was rewritten under H.R 3590 and it clearly states the chip will be implanted in your arm or hand. Both bills are worded the exact same way. Except, H.R 3200 mentions death panels for our elderly. That is wht the bill H.R. 3200 did not get passed by Congress. Obama turned around and used the Commerse Clause to uphold bill H.R 3590. Now it will be up to the supreme court judges to overturn Obamacare.
Here is some videos on youtube that explains what the RFID chip is and how dangerous the RFID chip is to the American people.
watch? v=139XsMcyvgA
watch? v=8_o9077yRJoS or google RFID chip on youtube.
I read the bill, it clearly says the chip will be implanted in your hand or arm. It is way to keep track of all of us sheep. It is obviously you can't read!
You need to re-read the bill! The wording is different from the last bill but the message is the same. How are they going to make it mandatory? That is were the registry part comes in. Think about it please!
Wow - you get an A for tenacity even though you still get an F for reading comprehension.
People have repeatedly told you that you are wrong. We have linked you to the actual bill text from the Library of Congress website and others (like opencongress.org, senate.gov, gpo.gov, etc.) and to places like snopes that specifically debunk you.
You have consistently posted links to bills that never passed and misread the bills that you link to.
The wording is different from the last bill
You still haven't posted any wording that would require RFID implants.
How are they going to make it mandatory
Through the IRS - by having people include information on their taxes and assessing a penalty if they did not have coverage.
Go to www.rfidnews.com! It talks about all the the new medical devices that have the rfid chip in them. They even invented a chip for diabetics called the gluco chip. The government plans on putting on implanting the chip in us for complete control.
It is just not only used for medical purposes but used in childrens' schools as well. In Texas they are forcing parents to have their child to carry a school id that has the rfid chip built in it. You can find this in the www.rfidnews.com website. They use the rfid id school cards to track attendance of all their students. The school is also using the rfid chip to help locate or track expensive equipment.
The company that makes the rfid chip named Applied Digital and sister company Digital Angel have been in business way before Obama was ever elected into office. This has nothing to do with Obama! It has to do with our civil rights. It is huge violatio against our privacy. The company been around since George Sr. Bush was the president. They are even marketing it to nightclubs so they can track their clients. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgmraktx7xI
What is next? Casinoes.
The company created it because of 911. Applied Digital says that the idea for using these chips to identify humans came after the horrifying event. They forsaw that they could identified people in a event of a natural disaster.
That articles from snoopes was written way before The Afforable Healthcare Act passed in 2010. The website mention a bill named H.R 3200 the new bill is H.R 3590 that was passed in 2010. Both bills are almost exactly alike! The H.R 3200 bill didn't pass because it mention about death panels for our elderly. This RFID chip is no hoax! Look up RFID chip on youtube or google RFID chip and it will explain how dangerous this microchip is to the American people. Google H.R 3590 to read the bill.
It is against my rights to support Obamacare because of my 10th and 14th ammendement. It disrupts the free maket! You can't force someone to buy your products or services. Obamacare will lead us into another 1930's depression. Read the bill from the Thomas law website. Your website clearly saids it will implanted as well. Read the gov bill before posting anymarks to me. It is classified as a surevelience implantable device and it is in the bill.
In a free market if you don't pay for a service you don't get that service. In the U.S. we don't ask if you can pay for CPR while you are having a heart attack. You get services whether you can pay or not.
Did read the bill and several analyses of the bill and yes you are making it up. From the text of what passed using the link above, paste the text you think relates to RFID. Until then, we will assume now that you know you are lying as several people have told you the same thing.
■Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.
■23 Executive Orders on gun control - infringement of the 2nd Amendment
■2 Executive actions mandating private health information on patients be turned over to NICS - Violation of HIPPA law.
■Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; Article II Section 3
■Unilaterally issued new exemptions to immigration restrictions law that bars certain asylum-seekers and refugees who provided “limited material support” to t
errorists. – Article 1 Section 1
■Issued directive instructing ICE to NOT enforce immigration laws in certain cases. Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress; ”he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3
■Information memorandum telling states that they can waive the work requirement for welfare recipients, thereby altering the 1996 welfare reform law. - Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
■NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.
■Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything
■Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.
■Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
■Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st Amendment
■DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law. “ he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” Article II Section 3
■Dodd-Frank – Due process and separation of powers. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau writing and interpreting law. Article. I. Section. 1
■Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated
■Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade
■Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) – 1st Amendment
■Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)
■Appointing agency czars without the “advice and consent of the Senate.” Violation of Article II, Section 2
■Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council – Violation of Section 9.
■ACA (Obamacare) mandate – SCOTUS rewrote legislation and made it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority for Congress to force Americans to engage in commerce. SCOTUS has no authority to Legislate or lay taxes. Article I Section 1 & 8.
■Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate violation of First Ammendment
■Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers
■Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare
■Going after states (AZ lawsuit) for upholding Federal law (immigration) -10th Amendment.
■Chrysler Bailout -TARP - violated creditors rights and bankruptcy law, as well as Takings and Due Process Clauses – 5th Amendment (G.W. Bush also illegally used TARP funds for bailouts)
■The Independent Payment Advisory Board (appointees by the president). Any decisions by IPAB will instantly become law starting in 2014 – Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1.
■Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4; War Powers Act – Article II Section 3.
■Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.
■Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.
■With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. – Violation of 4th Amendment.
■Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.
■The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives
■Obama altered law – (A president has no authority to alter law) Delayed upholding the Employer Mandate Law (ACA) until 2015 – Individual Mandate will be enforced. A President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States; The president ”shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” -Article II, Section 3; Equal Protection Clause -14th Amendment.
■Obama altered law - ACA Medicare cuts delayed until 2015. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.
■Obama altered law – Enforcement of eligibility requirements for ACA delayed until 2015. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.
■Obama wavered ACA Income Verification Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.
■Obama altered law – Delayed ACA caps on out of pocket expenses until 2015. (when implemented premiums will skyrocket) Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3.
■Obama ignored judicial order to fulfill legal obligation regarding Yucca Mountain waste. Article II, Section 3
■Waived Federal provision that prevents U.S. From arming terrorist groups – Article I. Section 1; Impeachable under Article III, Section 3.
■Obama shelves part of the ACA Law for Insurers, extending the life of non-qualifying (according to ACA) plans until Jan. 1, 2015. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3. Violation of the Take Care Clause, Separation of Powers.
■Obama waved ACA individual mandate for those that lost their insurance. Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3. Violation of the Take Care Clause, Separation of Powers.
Look up the FDA website and key in search box rfid chip. You will see all the medical devices that have the rfid chip in them. One of 5hem being the gluco chip for diabetics. Yes, the bill does say implantable device in case if the product recalls! It means any medical device that is implanted in you will have a rfid chip.
Yes. Gimme an RFID chip that contains my health history. In fact make it so it tracks my every movement and action. Additionally, I want it to shock me when I make a bad decision and whisper loving words to me when I feel sad, scared, or lonely. Let's just get it over with already. While we're at it let's ban all drugs, including alcohol and tobacco. Ban religion because too many people fight about it. Let's ban anything that is harmful or dangerous such as guns, sharp scissors, cars that go over 50mph(31kph) or create pollution, processed foods, processed sugars, trans-fats, and books that are controversial. Let's get rid of poisonous snakes and spiders. Ban UV rays because it causes skin cancer. BAN IT ALL! THIS WORLD NEEDS to be BABY-PROOFED! //sarcasm
Mr.B is, in essence, describing the Garden of Eden. Except the whole bit about no religion - instead, lets ban all of that except we shall all be force fed 1 single religion for the remainder of time. Sounds like fun - sign me up.
Your entire basis for believing so however is pure fantasy. You've obviously been brain washed to a horrid extent and it is a shame. I don't know if it is because you are particularly impressionable, have low intelligence, or have been bombarded by these insane ideas until you simply broke, likely some combination, but I actually feel bad for you.
At some point you are going to see these things not come to be, just don't drink the Kool-Aid first.
Spare me your pity, and don't insult my intelligence. So you're superior because you're shallow and haven't the ability to believe in things beyond what you can see? Laughable. You, sir, are the pitiful one.
Do you imagine most atheists have never believed in a god? And by the same token, have you ever not believed in a god?
You've made statements with no historical precedence and no current signs of fruition, yet without basis you claim yours is the more intelligent position.
Do you imagine you are the first to make such dire predictions? These are made by the religious every year, since the beginning of human intelligence. Not once has your ilk been correct about these predictions in all of history.
I feel bad for any mind trapped in a world where more than half of humanity is damned to eternal torture and where destruction of life is forever immanent. It's a small and sad world for you. I won't save my pity.
I didn't create this debate from a religious, end-times perspective. I created this debate based on the evident corruption of American government. Just because the video is titled the way it is, doesn't mean it was a religious argument - the video was posted to save me the time of typing out, again, the RFID chip issue regarding ObamaCare.
Pity whoever else you want. I don't need it. Thanks anyway. :)
This is a nation with a large Christian population in the bible belt. These people own lots of guns. They "know" about "the mark of the beast." Do you really think Obama is going to succeed in tagging them ;)
I completely agree, and I definitely hope not. However, I have been worried lately at the amount of support he's getting from otherwise good people of the Christian faith. He's already blinded so many of them, and I'm afraid they're so enamored with whatever perceived good he's doing that they might not give the mark of the beast another thought until it's too late.
Oh, please. Get off your self-righteous pedestal. Attacking a religion doesn't make this issue any less true. Maybe if you researched it a bit, you'd find you're obviously blind.
The video looks like religious propaganda (666? Seriously!), so I didn't bother to watch it.
However, I would never allow the government control over my body to such an extent. Such a tracker is sure to destroy what little freedom remains, and nothing - nothing - is hacker-proof. Not only does one need to worry about the government, but also regular cyber-criminals.
I completely agree. And I know the title of the video kind of skewed my purpose in asking the question, but I wasn't asking from a religious perspective - I'm just a concerned citizen. :)
I am concern citizen as well. Thanks for poiting that out! Most people think its the Christians that only oppose this bill. I think this is invasion of my privacy. The bill H.R. 3590 saids it will be connected to my bank account. This gives the government a right to deduct any unpaid parking tickets, unpaid taxes such as property taxes from my payroll check or yearly tax refund. You own a business and refused to pay your employees their health insurance ,guess what, the government can step in and take that from you using your microchip without your consent. In addition, the doctors can look up your fiancial records on your chip and deny you care if you have any max out credit cards. Obama chooses who gets national healthcare. That is the problem with Obamacare! It sounds like it will cause more problems in the future. Why can they just use those keychain tags that hook up to your car/house key that have your library card info or your recent points to Super America gas station. Why does it have to be a device that has to be implanted in your skin? That sounds like a horror Sci Fi movie more than the a regular device that suppose to make my life more easy.
The mark of the beast is described as a visual marking showing your allegiance to the anti-christ. If you're going to bring religion into this please for the love of your God. Learn your bible before spewing your "end of the world" crap. Also the anti-christ who I assume you're assuming Obama is. Has Control over entire world promising peace for all. Barack doesn't fit that agenda currently since he supports war.
Would you like to read up on your bible? Kinda makes a bad Christian when they don't know their bible and then they spew stupid stuff about it.
If people look up the company that makes the rfid chip they would see what the real purpose of making this microchip. Please google Digital Angel and Applied Digital. The main purpose is to locate people incase of a natural disaster. The owner got the ideal from the fire fighters who put employee id's numbers on their arms incase they couldn't be identified in 911 disater. Check out my arguments on rfid chip and click on the link to learn more. One of my arguments they would not display.
Hell No!!!, Jesus spoke of the great apostasy, falling away people not trusting and not reading their bibles in the last days this is indeed a unbelieving generation. Rev 13:13 talks about what is happening right now, this one world government, on one can buy or sell with out having the "Mark" of the beast. This is CONTROL!!! economic control. If you don't have this "mark", you will be cut off, you cannot buy or sell!!!. You will be put on economic sanction. Look at what is happening in our world, we are so close to WWW till it is scary!! war can break out in the Middle East killing a third of all mankind according to scripture. Iran wants to blow up Israel, and Israel wants to get them first Iran has a nuclear facility that they are telling everyone that they don't, but they do. I really don't matter what country does what first the US will fight to protect Israel, our allie. All of this ties together with the mark of the beast. "Just as it was in the days of Noah (unbelieving generation) so shall it be at the second coming of man (Jesus Christ) People please wake up before it is to late. Start reading your bibles, Jesus said "I'm telling you this ahead of time" so when we see all the signs we will know that the time is at hand and he is near. Please don't take the implant, you will damn your soul for all eternity. Do yourself a favor by yourself a Bible the (KJV) the King James Version, and read it for yourself. Start in Hebrews, then go to Matthews, then go to the Book of Revelations. If you don't understand something ask a Pastor or a Reverend to explain it to you, and ask God for wisdom and understanding. The next couple of years is going to be REALLY, REALLY BAD!!. Why do you think that Hitler put number on the Jews?.......TO CONTROL THEM!!! and he was the 2nd Antichrist!!!, look at how many people he killed because they were Jews, Jesus was a Jew, and his own mother was also, she was a teenage prostitute, May God bless you and give you wisdom. Peace.
I am a human being, I was given the freedom to choose who and what I do, I did not choose Obama, nor do I care for this devil in our midst!!! When I first heard of the mark of the beast as a child in Bible school, I took it as God telling that getting this chip is BAD. As an adult I understand that this is a violation of my God givin rights!
Hidden so deep in this Health Care Bill is a way to pay for Oxy Heroin...
Well I want a Debate also..
Romney vs. Obama, but does President Obama truly want a debate, so I will share what I posted at Yahoo News.
hello to all the Yahoo blogers,
I see you all are up to the same....so let share, Obama wants a debate. Now seeing how Paul Ryan and most of the Republican Party Officials is following, and a great many Democrats, you all are most welcome / I have all way felt the need to air the blanket in public, so come along all of you Government Officials maybe you can learn something from the people at Yahoo...
Now President Obama, do you truly wish a Debate...let get started...
remember when I posted the International Boycott Of The Arabic Drug Empire at the White House Blog..? No...well I smiled when it was deleted out, but at that time I did not know about Pharmaceutical Heroin in the USA...
I did not know under the President Bush and Obama that our United States Military was Order to Patrol and protect Poppy Fields.
I did not know that Medicare was ripped off in the last 4 years because of Oxy Heroin at a total around $2 Trillion Dollars..Hey, its Heroin what did you think would happen...the street players see you all as a joke, dumb Government Drug Dealers.
Now let not forget the latest cover up that 1.2 Million People Between Canada and The USA died from your dope. 27000 Americans Died in 2007, oh...no, it was not because of Alcohol, it was because of Opioids in Alcohol Drinks, does the term OD ring a bell.
I will make this Debate Short, I must be Talking to that Empty Chair.
But in all due course of action, by 2016 we are going to do our best to vote out all who have failed the American People. And Bring in new Democrats and Republicans, so a investigation will go forward of Where Is The Money..
and last but not least, we are bring on line the First Tea Party President For the United States Of America...and oh no my friends....Not by the hand of the Republican Officials. but just by a painter who cares...but its True and Palin see's into it also..
What was that Obama, you did not think that a painter could win the support of democrats and republicans....shoot my feelings are hurt...see ya in the debate...
Well im not a dog and i will not be track by anyone and at any cost i have the right to be free and i will be no matter what im gonna leave this country very soon anyways because its going the wrong direction for my beliefs........
Mr. Appolo, don't you read books? Have you not done your own investigation on Mr. Obama? "We the People" have. Mr. Obama wishes to create the most destruction he possibly can before he leaves.
Have you not heard of the book, "Rules for Radicals"? The author, Mr. Saul Alinsky, is Mr. Obama's "mentor", his this satanic book is Mr. Obama's "Bible".
