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Debate Score:20
Arguments:19
Total Votes:20
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Wishing You Were Aborted as a Child Is That the Same Thing as Suicide?

Yep

Side Score: 13
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Nope

Side Score: 7

(assuming the wish came true) You are wishing that you no longer existed. i.e death

Side: Yep
1 point

It is a form of suicidal ideation. People making this claim should receive mental healthcare asap.

Side: Yep
1 point

Pretty much both mean that you wish you where dead. .

Side: Yep

This is stupid, how can some hypothetical retrospective action relate to some real tragic event?

Side: Nope
Sitara(11080) Disputed
1 point

Thoughts lead to actions. .

Side: Yep

If the person knew the wish was going to come true then yes, it's suicide. This person is just wishing to die. It's not suicide if you're wanting to die because you haven't physically killed yourself yet. you just have thoughts of suicide and that's it.

Side: Nope

No, suicide is to die by your own hand, abortion is by a doctor's hand.

Side: Nope
westbfieldLa(22) Disputed
1 point

Actually suicide is intentionally causing ones own death. so if you made a wish that you were aborted and you knew that wish was going to come true, then you're intentionally causing your own death. Just because it's being done by a doctors hands that doesn't mean anything, cause previously you made a wish saying that you wanted to die and without that statement, a doctors hands wouldn't be involved. Even if he wished that and DIDNT know the wish was going to come true and it did, it's still suicide. If you wish for something, you hope and desire for something so you're obviously wanting the wish to come true. If you're wanting it to come true, you're wanting to die, hence intentionally causing your own death.

Side: Yep
Quocalimar(6470) Disputed
1 point

If you pay a gunman to shoot you, and you knew he would do it, that's not the same as shooting yourself. If it's not by your own hand, so to speak, it's not suicide.

Side: Nope
1 point

Wishing that you were aborted and committing suicide is like saying I wish and I had a million dollars but I don't have a million dollars.

In other words, Suicide is an act of killing yourself. Wishing you were aborted is desiring to be aborted.

Suicide=Act

Wishing=Thought

Side: Nope
westbfieldLa(22) Disputed
1 point

If you knew the wish was coming true then that's the same thing as an act cause you know it's going to happen. The act is going to follow right after the thought and you KNOW that. By doing that, without wishing, then you wouldnt of died(intentionally causing your own death). This is only if you knew for sure the wish is going to come true though. Now if you wished for something but you didnt know if it was going to come true or not, it's the same. you're wishing(desiring and wanting something to happen) the wish is coming true, like you wanted, and now you're dead. This only applies to a situation though where your wish played a role in your death. Obviously if you wished to die and 3 months later you died by a deer killing you, then it isn't suicide. But if you wished to die, and that very moment, lets say, god granted that wish. That's your fault for saying that wish so you caused your own death. It's intentionally too cause you wished it. I'm not saying god would kill someone or anything like that, it's just an example. Like if you were being robbed by someone and you said to the guy, please man, just kill me, I wish I was dead, and he killed you ! Then that's suicide. Without saying to the robber, I wish was dead, then you had a chance to survive.

Side: Yep