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Tell them No telly
Debate Score:20
Arguments:16
Total Votes:23
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Would an atheist tell a dying child there is no God?

Tell them

Side Score: 7
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No telly

Side Score: 13

I would if they asked, fuck it. I don't give a fuck. They're gunna find out soon anyway. Bitch ass fool.

Side: Tell them
1 point

"Don't worry Timmy, there is nothing to be concerned with. The truth is that there is no truth, there is no ultimate reality. You can be comforted to know that because there is no ultimate reality, the reality you are experiencing is not real. A lie isn't a lie, the truth isn't the truth, and you can now sleep peaceful in the emptiness of nonexistence. None of this is real. You aren't really dying, because there is no dying."

Oddly enough, if you were to believe this to be true, you would still be professing belief in ultimate reality.

If you say. "There is no God", you are sayin, "It is the ultimate reality that there is no ultimate reality."

Surely anyone who has even a basic amount of sense would find such a proclamation hard to believe, whether or not they assumed to understand what was meant or not.

Charity is the prescription here, and atheists have no appreciation for the amount of charity contemporary society gives them. There was a time when this sort of thing was a matter of survival. People who shouted out "There is no truth! The reality is that there is no reality!" were executed for screwing everything up. Of course, executing these people for screwing everything up was also screwing everything up, so the cycle goes on and on.

Charity is the prescription of Christ, if the atheists only knew.

"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity."

Side: Tell them
4 points

No. Because atheists are not automatically aholes.

Would a Christian tell a dieing non-Christian child they're going to hell because they're not Christian? Yes.

Side: No telly
1 point

Very nice turn of the tables.

Side: No telly
Amarel(5070) Clarified
1 point

I saw an abortion protest where they handed out the 10 Commandments and held Bible quote signs. I told them that they are missing most demographics by failing to reach out to atheist, Buddhist, Hindu etc, women who may be considering an abortion. The guy said that those with ears to hear will hear. I told him that the people they are trying to save don’t have ears yet. They will have to reach out to non-Christians if they are to save non-Christian unborn children. He literally said that the non-Christian unborn children are not a concern of his...

Side: Tell them

Since there was absolutely to way to prove this I wouldn’t go so far as to smash a 7 year olds last warm dream, and there is a chance that somehow metaphorically, some part of what religion says is philosophically true, would be true. But that was by far the stupidest question I’ve seen today.

Side: No telly
1 point

youd rather make the kids life miserable before they die? lmfao just let the shit go

Side: No telly
1 point

No. Just like I don't think a Christian would tell a dying child they are going to hell because they don't believe in God. I believe in the inherent good in people, regardless of our belief, and anyone who puffs their chest and puts their own belief and opinion over that of the child's struggles and the families sorrow is a crap person to begin with and no belief or non-belief of theirs will say otherwise.

Side: No telly
0 points

I personally wouldn't.

Just because I'm an atheist, doesn't mean I'm a heartless idiot. The child's feelings are more important to me than my position on God.

Side: No telly
LRyuuzaki(51) Disputed
1 point

@SeanB

So one kids feelings are more important than the truth about the entire universe? I get what you are saying, but you could have worded that better. It's not that the kids feelings are more important than the truth, it's that it's not worth telling them the truth just so they can die miserable.

Side: Tell them
seanB(959) Disputed
1 point

one kids feelings are more important than the truth about the entire universe?

This is an incorrect interpretation of what I said. What I did NOT say was that I have an objective conclusion about the relative importance of "one child's feelings" as opposed to the truth about the entire universe.

What I DID say is that I personally wouldn't tell a dying child there was no God, because TO ME that child's happiness and security in death are far more important than my personal position on God.

Nuance and context.

Side: No telly