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 Ya, i do have mental issues (29)

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Ya, i do have mental issues

but this is due to being exposed to drugs my whole pregnancy and breaking my skull at 3 years old, but you guys have to admit, calling someone retarded is fucking ignorant and its pretty offensive, i dont take offense to it much, it just offends me that people have no empathy. Just because someone is extremely different, their opinion doesnt matter?

Get off your high horses and level the playing field, seriously. Its annoying, not offensive.  My arguments, although not based in reality, DO make sense, if you keep your mind open...

Society is sad these days, why do you think i want to change it so much? 

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Whenever people bring up some sort of mental issue when they are discussing something they believe or do, I tend to draw 2 comparisons, complete opposites, and try and see which end of this narrow spectrum they fall on. This is anecdotal, so you may struggle to understand, but oh well.

The first of these people suffers from a mild form of bipolarism, which is somewhat dehabilitating but not rampant. However, they still struggle to act "normally". As a result of this though, they tend to have more extreme and advanced thoughts. If you think of their thoughts as speakers; why have it at half power when you can have them at full blast? This process has seen them become healthily interested in art and philosophy, and they are a better person for their illness.

The second person also suffers from bipolarism, this one more rampant (type 2). They have the same thought process, but they can't control it, their mind wanders past the boundaries of the first person. They question the unquestionable, and may contemplate acting upon it. They're known to be unstable as a result, and are kept under lock and key, in case they harm anyone or themselves.

Back to my main point, when mental issues are raised in debate, I see which character the person aligns most with. And right now, I have to say you are leaning towards the latter, though you have improved since you first joined.

Your arguments are not based on reality, you're always looking for an explanation that satisfies your morbid need for conspiracy, you clearly don't trust modern day man. While you are not a danger to society, your words would concern the average person.

This isn't meant to offend, it's just my two cents on how prominent the issues you have are.

2 points

This is true. What you say is very strange and bizarre. Although you don't trust modern ideas, you DO trust insane ideas like atlantis or aliens.

It is fine to consider it as a thought, but you are making debates on it as if you thought it actually existed and knew better than everyone else.

It is insane, and a concern for people living in this society.

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garry77777(1794) Disputed
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"The first of these people suffers from a mild form of bipolarism"

How would you define "bipolar"?

" However, they still struggle to act "normally"

I would ask the same question but I assume your answers is: like everyone else, i.e. being a productive member of society

"As a result of this though, they tend to have more extreme and advanced thoughts."

Not necessarily, or maybe they simply can't crystallise those thoughts into a comprehensible form and then convey them to others.

"If you think of their thoughts as speakers; why have it at half power when you can have them at full blast?"

Would you please elaborate on this?

"This process has seen them become healthily interested in art and philosophy, and they are a better person for their illness."

Would you mind if I asked what led you to hold this view?

My arguments, although not based in reality, DO make sense, if you keep your mind open...

How can they make sense if they are not based in reality?

Your arguments do not make sense, even with an open mind. Most people on this site have a filter, it's called skepticism, it's what prevents bull shit from getting in there.

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Ya and we are only in the baby ages of our society so what makes you so sure what i say wont be a reality in 100, 1000, or 10000 years?

Fine, not based in what the accepted consensus of reality is, is that better?

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You're only appealing to future evidence here....therefore invalid.

Your ideas are not grounded in any reasonable definition of reality. So yes, that is better. Your reality is vastly different than mine and virtually every other humans on this planet.

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Nearly everyone appears to have mental issues, and you trying to use your own form of logic to find what what is true is a LOT more impressive than most people who accept what is true because they were told that.

You have certainly found a path for yourself that most people do not care to look for. Although I think you are delusional, your path in life will do very little harm to the world, and will likely help it if anything.

Courage is rare enough, but the courage to question your own opinions and why you have them is much rarer.

Being skeptical is important, or you might end up believing a bunch of stuff that just isn't true- however, keeping an open mind is a valuable tool. Just don't let your brain fall out.

garry77777(1794) Disputed
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"You have certainly found a path for yourself that most people do not care to look for."

People like him do not need to be encouraged, always remember that, just look at how fast he's churning out nonsense debates, like a child, if you ignore that particular fire, it will go out.

"your path in life will do very little harm to the world, and will likely help it if anything."

I'd like to know, if you do not mind that is, what makes you so certain of this?

"keeping an open mind is a valuable tool. Just don't let your brain fall out."

One of Bertrand Russell's most widely quoted yet rarely correctly attributed epigrams, one I have always hated and loved simultaneously.

Emperor(1348) Disputed
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If what he says is truly foolish, then I expect people to make fun of him for it constantly throughout his life.

This appears to be what happens. Yes, he is wrong, but what am I supposed to do? Just insult him until he gives up his false beliefs? That is just being cruel. He is too close minded/impressionable to understand why what he believes is wrong, or accept criticism of his ideas, so I will not just insult him pointlessly. You can, if you so desire.

I will keep that in mind. Next time there is a fire, I will ignore it and it will go away.

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Yes*

I have both friends and family who have issues and I think people should be empathetic, but you have to keep in mind that not everyone is going to know about your issues on this site (it is not even listed in your profile if anyone looks).

People take their positions very seriously sometimes and have a tendency (I am no exception) to put down arguments that they find outlandish - you should not take it personally.

If I may ask - if you know you have some issues, why do you use createdebate?

Regardless, always remember, people on this site do not know you! If they make fun of your argument take it as a challenge to either make it a bit better or maybe learn something new and possibly even change your opinion.

Happy trails...

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Yes, also, if you know your view of reality is highly distorted, then claiming that what you say is truth, despite lack of evidence or logic or reason on a debate site is rather odd. If you cannot prove your point, that is fine in real life, you are entitled to what you believe, but on this sort of website, it is a different issue than simple intolerance.

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Okay, this almost sounds like a cry for help, as if some part of your brain realizes that you are missing something. In my experience there is no help for you but a doctor and prescription pad, but what can I say? I'm a sucker for hope. Let's dissect this debate:

Ya, i do have mental issues

but this is due to being exposed to drugs my whole pregnancy and breaking my skull at 3 years old,

Okay, you've established a premise for why you may or may not have "mental issues" in your own words. What did you really do here? 1. You admitted it, 2. You identified a potential source.

This is fantastic and where most who were able to pull out of your sort of fog would slowly pull themselves out, through effort and thought.

We run into a problem though:

but you guys have to admit, calling someone retarded is fucking ignorant and its pretty offensive, i don't take offense to it much, it just offends me that people have no empathy. Just because someone is extremely different, their opinion doesnt matter?

Okay, this entire statement has absolutely no relation to the first part of your statement, yet you treat it as if it does. Some part of you has made a connection which does not exist.

Whether someone calls you retarded is inconsequential (and I'd add none have called you retarded that I've seen) and you've veered hard off the subject here.

Why though? Why bring up whether someone insults you in this particular place? The subject is your mental state remember? It is not how you are treated.

I believe the answer is that it is a defense mechanism. Upon coming close to some sort of acceptance of your state of mind, via 1. and 2. listed above, you immediately retaliate by changing the subject. Because this is a self-preservation reaction it is necessary for you to believe that there is a connection between the first part and this second part.

That's not all though. Along with enabling you to change the subject, thus shielding yourself from seriously considering the true subject of your mental health, you've done so in a way that separates you from everyone else.

You've created a "me against the world" scenario which I believe falls in line with the typical defense mechanism one could expect from one who is bipolar, depressed, has paranoia; one or some combination of those things.

This then lets you re-assert the premise some part of your mind realizes is not realistic. You go full-circle after your brief moment of clarity, and re-assert the issues which caused you to question yourself in the first place, see below:

Get off your high horses and level the playing field, seriously. Its annoying, not offensive. My arguments, although not based in reality, DO make sense, if you keep your mind open...

Some arguments that are counter to popular thought do make sense. Some do not hold up to evidence though, and yours in large part simply do not.

Whether or not your arguments make sense is not the point though. The point is how quickly you've gone from questioning your perspective to re-asserting it as strong or stronger than before.

Typical behavior after questioning one's own basis for believing certain things, is indeed then to go back and try to prove their original thought right, but what is not normal is to do so this quickly, and to do so so consistently.

It is even worse here because you admit both it is not based in reality, and that it is worthy of consideration as if it were, in the same sentence.

Whatever your various arguments may be are not the most important issue of this "debate" though, what is important is how you get there and how you conflict with yourself within this particular argument.

Society is sad these days, why do you think i want to change it so much?

This sounds like depression which goes with all sorts of mental disorders. Is society sad? Or are you sad?

You may or may not be correct about this, but do you believe your perspective of something as large and complex as society is accurate?

I have no reason to question my mental state, and never have, yet as sane as I am I would not trust myself to make such a blanket judgment.

Are you able to see perspectives which would paint society in a less sorry light?

Give that a try... seriously try it.

Someone who is mentally stable will be able to look at two sides of this particular question. Even if they did indeed believe it to be sad, they could come up with some examples of how it is not sad.

I have a good counter argument I believe to "Society is sad these days."

I don't think it is sad, I think it is better than ever. I also can see how it can be seen as sad though. I'm interested to know if it is truly society you see as sad, or if you are projecting your own emotions.

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No its not a cry for help its just confirming what i have because people on here have asked if i have any mental diseases, which i do, so i was just answering the peoples questions, why would i be crying out for help? i dont need to cry out for help, i like who i am and i dont need help changing myself.