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The people in Target, black and white, were looking for TVs and Legos. This staged little speech comes from a person who is perfectly safe from rioters. The only people who are for rioters are rioters and those that are safe from them. There are important, actual relevant factors related to most poverty and crime in America. Racism isn't actually one of them. BLM never addresses them. That's how you know they don't believe their own title. 1
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Capitalism's record speaks for itself, your bluster and bullshit notwithstanding. No, I was talking about able people seeking employment, education, and taking responsibility for their children and their children's behavior. Fatherlessness hits hard on a child's prospects, regardless of race. 1
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Capitalism's record speaks for itself Indeed it does. You are correct:- The list includes certain death tolls from the two World Wars, colonial wars, anticommunist campaigns and repressions, ethnic conflicts, and victims of famines or malnutrition; bringing the incomplete total to a 100 million deaths attributed to capitalism in the 20th century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeLivrenoirducapitalisme your bluster and bullshit notwithstanding. Excuse me for criticising capitalism. Should I keep my mouth shut in future while you continue to drive our species into extinction with your own stupidity? No, I was talking about able people seeking employment, education So, in other words, you don't want to talk about the factors which are actually relevant to poverty and crime. You just want to, well, bluster and bullshit, which is a bit ironic. Let me just remind you what you wrote buddy:- There are important, actual relevant factors related to most poverty and crime in America You did not mention "people seeking employment" or anything else on your list, so perhaps you could do us all a favour and stop trying to change what you wrote. You said there are actual relevant factors related to poverty and crime in America. Capitalism is objectively, demonstrably one of those factors, yet you are visibly irritated that I even mentioned it. I think that gives us an accurate picture of what a disingenuous little arse you happen to be, wouldn't you agree? I'm irritated pretty much every time you post. You so rarely say anything that isn't irritating. Yes, I said there are relevant factors, and then I stated some of them. Capitalism is not one of them as its principles have been the single greatest contributor to poverty reduction in the history of the world. This is where you focus on my first sentence as if it's substantial, pretend I'm lying about the rest, counter it with irrelevant or false statements, and of course call me a fascist because ad hominem is your strongest position yet. It is highly, highly unlikely that you will post anything actually worth responding to, so enjoy the last word. But if you did choose to keep your mouth shut indefinitely, it would be a great service to the users of this website. 1
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I'm irritated pretty much every time you post. Then perhaps you should learn to stop getting angry every time somebody criticises your disingenuous rhetoric. Right now your anger is directed at the wrong place. I didn't force you to illustrate those spectacular double standards of yours. You chose to do that on your own. Yes, I said there are relevant factors, and then I stated some of them. Capitalism is not one of them A completely ridiculous, objectively false claim which directly contradicts the relevant academic literature. See:- Capitalism encourages criminality of the lower class by the misery and inequality inflicted upon them, and criminal attitudes are encouraged among the upper class by the avarice fostered when capitalism thrives. Bonger traced much crime to the poverty generated by capitalism. https://books.google.co.uk/ https://study.sagepub.com/system/files/ If you are going to brazenly ignore decades of criminological research because of your own ideological bias then you have no place posting in a forum reserved for debate. Equally, I have no interest in reading any of the stupid crap that you post. 1
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its principles have been the single greatest contributor to poverty reduction You are contradicting yourself. If capitalism has been the single greatest contributor to poverty reduction then why are you complaining about the high levels of crime? Conversation with you inevitably comes down to you trying to falsely present technology and capitalism as one and the same, when they quite obviously are two very different things. The Soviets were able to use the same false argument about Communism, since technology also improved in Russia following the revolution in 1917. Indeed, since technology inevitably marches forward with the passage of time, this is a generic fallacy which may be applied to any system of governance at any point in history, including Nazism, state capitalism, and the various South American military dictatorships. The fact that you believe a current crime and relative poverty issue undermines the fact that we are far better off than we once were as a direct result of functional market economics demonstrates only your incapacity for logical thought. It is no wonder your very next argument is that time invents shit for us. You're a fucking cretin. 1
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The fact that you believe a current crime and relative poverty issue undermines the fact that we are far better off than we once were I don't think you understood what I just wrote, did you? Let me simplify it for you. Nobody disputes that we are better off than we once were. What I am disputing is your malignantly false effort to attribute that to capitalism, because even a twenty second glance at the historical record illustrates that we are better off than we ever were at any point in history that we choose to look at. Hence, you are crediting capitalism for something it has absolutely nothing to do with and can be demonstrated to have absolutely nothing to do with. It is difficult to have a reasonable conversation with someone who is not being reasonable. 1
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as a direct result of functional market economics As opposed to non-functional market economics? Amarel, you're just writing phrases which don't actually mean anything. If you are talking about trade, then trade is something which has happened since the dawn of time and it too is not the same thing as capitalism. This is frankly getting ridiculous. All you are doing is hand-picking out all of the improvements in society we have seen with the passage of time and, without any supporting evidence, simply expecting us to accept we have capitalism to thank for all of them, while at the same time (obviously) you steer clear of mentioning things like the slave trade and child trafficking. Because of capitalism we have more child trafficking than ever before in history, more of a market for child pornography, more wealth inequality, more assassins for hire and dozens of other things which you predictably neglect to mention. Hence, your own desperate defence of capitalism does absolutely nothing to obfuscate the fact that I am absolutely right to connect capitalism and crime. 1
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You're right when you point out that greater access to more effective means as a result of capitalism Obviously people who commit crime do so because they do not have access to the things that they want, so you are continuing to contradict yourself. Your language is absolutely loaded with incongruous claims about capitalism. applies to criminals as well as the rest of the population. If criminals had greater access to the things they want (because of capitalism) then obviously they would have no cause to commit crime you intellectually dishonest imbecile. 1
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You are no shit defending rape right now What are you talking about you laughably insane imbecile? The video in the OP is a black woman explaining that she doesn't own anything. It has nothing to do with rape. and misquoting me to do it. Show me where you think I have misquoted you. I copy and pasted the excerpts directly from your post. Having greater access to more effective means is not the same as having what you want. Having what you want is not a guarantee of capitalism. It isn't some bullshit utopian ideal, which I suppose is confusing for your dipshit commi brain. It's no surprise that your refusal to understand anything at all extends into criminal activity. Rape is a crime, pig. Would your society provide access to any woman that a party member wants? Nevermind. I'm done with you. 1
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Having greater access to more effective means is not the same as having what you want. "Having greater access to more efficient means" is farcical and meaningless language. You have not enlightened us as to what the means are, what they are more efficient at, or what the end is the means are supposed to help us achieve. As per usual, you are writing vague, meaningless phrases in place of an argument or chain of reasoning. Your shtick hasn't changed in years mate. You'll make a ridiculous statement or claim, and when asked to reason it out you'll digress to enigmas of language. 1
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Having what you want is not a guarantee of capitalism. It isn't some bullshit utopian ideal If capitalism doesn't give us what we want then it's a useless system isn't it, you laughably stupid idiot? On the one hand, you spent the last half hour arguing that capitalism has given us what we want, but the moment crime is brought up you argue the complete opposite. That is literally how much of a goddamned stupid idiot you are. 1
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It isn't some bullshit utopian ideal, which I suppose is confusing for your dipshit commi brain. I didn't claim that capitalism was a Utopian ideal. You did. You are literally attacking your own statements about capitalism from half an hour ago and blaming me. Lol. You're a total waste of my time. Everybody's time, truth be told. 1
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You know, one almost has to gawk in amazement at the stupidity of the ideological world you live in. One where everything good was caused by capitalism and everything bad by something else. That's literally the same thing as religion. Everything good in the world was caused by God and everything else by his arch nemesis, Communism. 1
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Let's talk about how capitalism indoctrinates society into materialism and the idea that oneself is the most important thing in the universe. Let's talk about how progressivism brainwashes you into group think and collectivism to use you as a useful idiot to get them power, then kills anyone who helped them because they know too much and are too dangerous to be allowed to live. 1
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Let's talk about how progressivism brainwashes you into group think Oh, I see. The neo-fascist wants to give out lectures about group think. How cute. and collectivism Putting the desires of the individual above the collective interests of humanity is how we make ourselves extinct. It's unfortunate that you are too stupid and insane to realise that. 2
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Putting the desires of the individual above the collective interests of humanity is how we make ourselves extinct. It's unfortunate that you are too stupid and insane to realise that. Communism isn't "putting collective interests first". Communism is a hammer to enslave the collective with. 1
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Oh, I see. The neo-fascist wants to give out lectures about group think. How cute. If there were right wing "Fascists" everywhere, they'd be in the streets fighting everywhere. Not one seen yet. Only thousands of left wing Fascists acting like Fascist without any right wingers in site. |
