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Former Atheists say their parents taught them to not believe. (Indoctrination)







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2 points

Another, going nowhere, juvenile attempt to rationalize the madness of believing in such eye-watering ridiculous stories as Adam & Eve, talking snakes, a 4000 year old world which was built in six days by God who then had to have a rest on the seventh.

As earth is a mere one trillionth of one grain of grain of sand in relationship to the rest of the cosmos one's mind boggles wondering how this 'fallible God' was ever able to build the universe in a mere 4000 years.

Noah's Ark had two of every animal on earth, from the north pole to the south pole and sufficient food to sustain them for their lengthy life on the ocean wave.

Please, please and triple please tell me that no one really believes this.

3 points

If you don't know that those stories are allegories, that's a knock on your own personal intellect. Jesus never once told a literal story. You're welcome to show us when He did.

3 points

"As earth is a mere one trillionth of one grain of grain of sand in relationship to the rest of the cosmos one's mind boggles wondering how this 'fallible God' was ever able to build the universe in a mere 4000 years."

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You've created a strawman argument to knock down based on some tortured version of Christianity that no single Christian I've ever met adheres to or believes.

3 points

"Noah's Ark had two of every animal on earth, from the north pole to the south pole and sufficient food to sustain them for their lengthy life on the ocean wave."

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This is an allegorical story that is used to represent the end of the world, and Jesus referenced it as such. Matthew 24:7

3 points

"Please, please and triple please tell me that no one really believes this."

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Oh I'm sure if we sifted through all people on the planet, we might find one...

3 points

"Another, going nowhere, juvenile attempt to rationalize the madness of believing in such eye-watering ridiculous stories as Adam & Eve, talking snakes, a 4000 year old world which was built in six days by God who then had to have a rest on the seventh."

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Adam is a word in Hebrew that simply means "mankind". Google it.

the Bible is clear that the serpent of Genesis is Satan. He's also referred to as an angel, a serpent, and a dragon in the book of Revelation. Revelation even plainly says that all of these things are "figurative speech" of one thing representing another. In many cases it even tells you what the abstract thing represents.

Example: Dragon = Satan

Tree of life = Christ

Nakedness = Shame

Lamb = Christ

Beasts with multiple heads = empires

The woman = Israel in some parts and the church in other parts

Many waters = multitudes of peoples

3 points

"wondering how this 'fallible God' was ever able to build the universe in a mere 4000 years."

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The Bible gives no distinction that "God created the universe in 4,000 years". You've made up a concept that isn't actually anywhere in the Bible. The Fermi paradox and the Drake equation might interest you though.

LOL!

You don't teach someone not to believe (in God), you raging nincompoop. It's the base condition. I don't have to teach you not to believe in James the flying teapot samurai, do I?

Oh dear bronto. Every day you get just a little bit more insane.

1 point

I don't have to teach you not to believe in James the flying teapot samurai, do I?

Nope. He's not a part of history, nor did he change the entire scope of the world for 2,000 years. False equivalencies are not our friend Quantum.

1 point

You don't teach someone not to believe (in God)

You don't teach someone to not believe the Earth is flat. See how stupid that is?

1 point

Is all teaching indoctrination?

Is all indoctrination bad?

Is teaching not to believe any better or worse than teaching to believe?

Some people are able to derive enlightenment and social validation from an understanding of nature and consiousness, and some people find it cold, harsh and ambivalent.

I would argue that it is very likely that human tribal development was essential in constructing the social consiousness that we now contend with as a modernistic society. Our minds are constructs of past evolutionary events, and so as tribal gatherings decrease as modern life advances, some humans will invariably crave the past relationships. Relationships that may even have been with existential forces they did not understand.

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Hello bront:

Nothing is dogma??? Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

excon

3 points

Sure it is. Each person in the videos said they were taught to be atheists by their parents.