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Atheist Have Faith Still going to Lie
Debate Score:24
Arguments:19
Total Votes:24
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You can fool some of the people part of the time, but not all.

Evidence that atheists have faith  (FAITH: Antonyms: disbelief, distrust, doubt, misgiving, skepticism, suspicion)

http://thesaurus.com/browse/faith

If an atheist didn't have faith then they would be skeptical/suspicious of their own disbelief in God. An atheist however isn't skeptical of this view, thus having faith in their own views.

Synonyms: acceptance, allegiance, assent, assurance, belief, certainty, certitude, confidence, constancy, conviction, credence, credit, credulity, dependence, faithfulness, fealty, fidelity, hope, loyalty, reliance, stock, store, sureness, surety, troth, truth, truthfulness

Definition of FAITH

1a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty
 b (1): fidelity to one's promises (2): sincerity of intentions
 
2a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
 
 b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof(2): complete trust
 
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially: a system of religious beliefs
 

 

Definition of FAITH #2  believe, trust

Atheist Have Faith

Side Score: 16
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Still going to Lie

Side Score: 8
4 points

I've been saying this for years. But faith is the five-letter-word when it comes to atheism, I've found. They don't seem to get I'm not implying they have faith in a god or deity of any kind, but simply that they believe that their own views are correct and not a fabrication.

Side: Atheist Have Faith
1 point

"New atheism" is what ruined the notion that atheists can have faith.

Side: Atheist Have Faith
lupusFati(790) Clarified
2 points

Well then it's wrong, plain and simple. For people who prize knowledge and such, that seems like a pretty stupid move to rely on one definition.

Side: Atheist Have Faith

I've always believed they believe something. They keep saying they have no belief at all, but don't most of them believe in the big bang theory? Which is an unproved theory, so in order to think it being true and consider it a fact you have to believe it first.

Side: Atheist Have Faith

Well I would assume an Atheist has faith. It doesn't always have to be religious faith but simple things like starting you car or flipping the light switch.

Side: Atheist Have Faith
1 point

What does faith mean? There are multiple different definitions of it.

Side: Atheist Have Faith
lupusFati(790) Clarified
3 points

How about the most common definition that you simply trust something to be true? The religious definition isn't really applicable here since we're talking about atheism.

Side: Atheist Have Faith
2 points

Added the definitions of FAITH to the debate description. Thanks for pointing out the need to do so.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faith

Side: Atheist Have Faith
2 points

I'm a nihilist.

We believe in nothing, Lebowski. Nothing. And tomorrow we come back and we cut off your chonson.

Side: Still going to Lie
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

You have faith in nothing, other-wise you'd be skeptical of this belief.

Side: Atheist Have Faith
1 point

How dare you dispute a Big Lebowski reference. Have you no shame?!

Side: Still going to Lie

Depends how you define faith. Faith could be defined as something that includes wanting the belief to be true. You could be atheist and not have comfort in there being no god.

Side: Still going to Lie

If you define faith to the extent that it merely means acceptance of a view, then whatever. But the meaning of faith in a religious discussion seems clear most of the time to me and those participating in the debate with me. Only on here do I really witness such focus on trying to define faith into the athiest position.

Side: Still going to Lie
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

My point is that every word used by a atheists is supposed to be religious and every word in the English language is to be ignored if the meaning doesn't fit an atheists views.

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Atheists WhichBilldoyouuse3

Side: Atheist Have Faith
1 point

I'm not sure why you would degrade the significance of "faith" by lowering its common meaning in the context of a religious discussion by equating it with trust or simple acceptance. And definition fishing is kind of like quote mining when the offending party pretends any progress is achieved by it.

Side: Still going to Lie