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For aganist
Debate Score:84
Arguments:53
Total Votes:101
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Zoophilia

This is my last stand for this on this site so please be reasonable and have nice arguments.

Also I will not be coming here anymore after this because it's getting boring talking to the same people.

Please leave God out of this and stay on topic.

For

Side Score: 46
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aganist

Side Score: 38
4 points

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY FUCK DOGS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Side: For

I don't see anything wrong with it. As long as the animal wants it. if the animal doesn't want it and it is struggling, leave it alone.

Side: For
0 points
Side: For
2 points

I want to be happy as much as anybody else and has most of all I want my partner to be happy.

My partner loves everything I do for him and I love to make him happy and full all is needs and feeling. I have been low on cash lately but and have been trying to find a better job but I still take anytime I have left out of my day and give it to him. I still keep buying him things and showing him that I love him and I hope you guys understand I really would at least like to know given if you are against that you respected that I do have strong feeling for him.

Side: For
AngryGenX(463) Disputed
4 points

What you are doing is wrong. You are simply taking a mindless but trainable animal and taking advantage of it. The self-centeredness of it would be little different if you had a kid in your house you submitted into a routine of molestation. How much you feed it, provide for it doesn't matter... no living creature should be in a position of providing sex for survival. Apparent willfulness of the subject does not excuse your behavior. Your dog doesn't know any better, YOU SHOULD.

Side: aganist
goodmale(1459) Disputed
1 point

If it's mindless then it doesn't matter and I don't make sex for survival I just simply give him the choice if he wants it or not and he still gets all the things I providing him.

Side: For
1 point

People have been haveing sex with animals ever since we were born. We all came from animals are people forgetting that.

Zoophilia are not killers or rapist. There people that loves and cares about animals more then anybody else.

Pedophiles are different then Zoophilia. Pedophilia is the act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. A zoophilia is a person that loves and cares and respects animals but also has sexual feelings with adult animals.

Whats the difference between adult dogs and kids. You can also then ask your self what is the difference between kids and adults.

The difference is that adults are fully grown and there brain have developed completely and kids are still growing and learning.

Side: For
5 points

People have been haveing sex with animals ever since we were born. We all came from animals are people forgetting that.

This doesn't really make sense. Humans have been murdering forever, should it be ok?

Zoophilia are not killers or rapist. There people that loves and cares about animals more then anybody else.

You may or not represent the common Zoophile. There is no reason why someone who has sex with animals has to be in love with animals.

Whats the difference between adult dogs and kids. You can also then ask your self what is the difference between kids and adults.

If there isn't much difference between kids and adult dogs, doesn't that hurt your case?

It is weird to have sex with animals. It just is. Most people have sex with humans. So, animal sex is weird. There is no reason for you to try to convince a bunch of internet strangers that they shouldn't think you are weird. Be good to your dog and stop trying to tell everyone you are normal. You already have 1 of those down, now on to the second one.

Side: For
1 point

There is nothing inherently wrong with the human animal having sex with other animals. Zoophilia is an orientation.

The topic of bestiality has been a taboo in our society for a long time but the stigma behind it isn't justified. All the latest science suggest that the majority of mammals are intelligent individuals and can enjoy sex just as much as we do. Studies on zoophiles and zoosexuals have only shown that they are misunderstood, understudied, and are a diverse group that functions well in society without a problem.

There are several common misunderstandings and bad perceptions about the subject of bestiality. Sex with animals CAN be abusive and cruel, but the same can be said for all other forms of sex. Often, the only time it is reported on is in the rare instance of an animal abuser that is caught molesting and harming an animal. So the publics perception is that the act only happens in an abusive and criminal context, when on the contrary, their are many more zoophiles in the world (that the public doesn't know about) that love their animal partners deeply and put their animal companions needs first.

First off animals are not robots. Behaviorism is an outdated way of explaining animal behavior that is not used anymore. Explaining away animal behavior as "just fallowing instincts" is oversimplifying the reality that these are complex and intelligent individuals each with their own unique personality.

Often they are compared to children because of their position in our society, and from hence we hear the argument that they can't consent and that sex with animals is akin to child abuse. The flaw in this argument is that while there are some similarities, the differences are much greater. Namely that adult animals can hunt for their own food, care for themselves, raise their own young and most importantly are sexually mature.

The other argument commonly used is that animals can't communicate and thus can't consent to sex. Anyone with any level of experience and awareness of other species should know this is false. Most all the species in the animal kingdom have some forum of language, and some have even learned some of our own. Just in the day to day action of a pet owner interacting with a dog sees volumes of information communicated through body language, behaviors and vocalizations. It requires communication for a dog to let you know when its hungry, needs to go to the bathroom, or wants to play. Why would this apply to every other behavior and interaction with animals except for sex?

Occasionally people cite health concerns as a reason bestiality should not be legal. Maybe that is because some people associate "lower" animals as dirty. The only likely risk is ticks, otherwise most kept animals are vetted for and kept clean. Because animal companions are a different species, there isn't a chance of getting pregnant, viruses and colds are usually too species specific, and human germs are far more dangerous to us then a canines germs.

For those who are worried about the welfare and rights of animals, we should look to the billions of meat and dairy animals that suffer systematic animal abuse and cruel methods of slaughter. Hunting of hundreds of thousands is allowed of almost every wild animal in the food chain (if they aren't already nearly extinct) and abandoned and unwanted domesticated animals die by the millions in shelters. Our focus should be on solving those problems instead of attacking a minority with an unpopular orientation.

Animals may not know math on the level we do, or be able to build homes to the hight our society does, but when it comes to personality, feelings, companionship and love, they are definitely our equals. So no, sex with animals is not wrong when the two sides are consenting and enjoying their relationship together.

Side: For
1 point

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Side: For
0 points

This might be disgusting to the majority of readers here, but it is NOT wrong.

Yes, I understand that sex with animals is taboo and irks most people out, but that doesn't make it cruel, or should consider it a crime. A lot of people jump to the first problem that comes to mind as a rationalization why it's wrong. Here is where the arguments fall short and the facts.

The popular one is to compare animals to kids, probably because so many people see and treat their animal companions as kids. Huge problem with that, kids are not sexually mature, whereas all adults and grown animals ARE sexually mature. Likewise, animals hunt, have sex, reproduce, look after their young, and care for themselves in the wild, unlike children.

Intelligence and communication are also a popular argument to make, as if animals don't have any and therefor can not (willfully?) participate. Good luck going up against an increasingly growing wealth of knowledge about the sophistication of animal communication and intelligence. So far our understanding of animal intelligence seems to be limited more by our ability to accurately measure animal intelligence rather then the limit of their cognitive abilities. Regardless, having less or a different kind of knowledge doesn't stop two individuals from enjoying sex. In addition, anyone with a close relationship to a companion animal generally has a good knowledge of how they communicate. Even the densest of people can understand when an animal is excited, scared, or ahem horny.

The last one I'll cover is one that comes out of the disgust factor. The way people describe it, you are almost certain to catch a parasite, disease or germs as soon as you come into sexual contact with an animal. The reality is, a zoophile and his or her animal partner is less at risk then a typical person. Germs are very species specific, so kissing fido is probably safer then kissing your wife/husband. Parasites in animals are easily prevented (or treatable). Again, most diseases are species specific, or aren't passed solely by sex. Finally, no risk of babies. Different species can have sex but aren't able to reproduce.

Side: For
0 points

If you want to support zoophilia than sign this petition.

http://www.change.org/petitions/michigan-state-house-make-zoophilia-legal

Side: For
3 points

Nobody cares!

Side: aganist
goodmale(1459) Disputed
1 point

The topic of bestiality has been a taboo in our society for a long time but the stigma behind it isn't justified. All the latest science suggest that the majority of mammals are intelligent individuals and can enjoy sex just as much as we do. Studies on zoophiles and zoosexuals have only shown that they are misunderstood, understudied, and are a diverse group that functions well in society without a problem.

There are several common misunderstandings and bad perceptions about the subject of bestiality. Sex with animals CAN be abusive and cruel, but the same can be said for all other forms of sex. Often, the only time it is reported on is in the rare instance of an animal abuser that is caught molesting and harming an animal. So the publics perception is that the act only happens in an abusive and criminal context, when on the contrary, their are many more zoophiles in the world (that the public doesn't know about) that love their animal partners deeply and put their animal companions needs first.

First off animals are not robots. Behaviorism is an outdated way of explaining animal behavior that is not used anymore. Explaining away animal behavior as "just fallowing instincts" is oversimplifying the reality that these are complex and intelligent individuals each with their own unique personality.

Often they are compared to children because of their position in our society, and from hence we hear the argument that they can't consent and that sex with animals is akin to child abuse. The flaw in this argument is that while there are some similarities, the differences are much greater. Namely that adult animals can hunt for their own food, care for themselves, raise their own young and most importantly are sexually mature.

The other argument commonly used is that animals can't communicate and thus can't consent to sex. Anyone with any level of experience and awareness of other species should know this is false. Most all the species in the animal kingdom have some forum of language, and some have even learned some of our own. Just in the day to day action of a pet owner interacting with a dog sees volumes of information communicated through body language, behaviors and vocalizations. It requires communication for a dog to let you know when its hungry, needs to go to the bathroom, or wants to play. Why would this apply to every other behavior and interaction with animals except for sex?

Occasionally people cite health concerns as a reason bestiality should not be legal. Maybe that is because some people associate "lower" animals as dirty. The only likely risk is ticks, otherwise most kept animals are vetted for and kept clean. Because animal companions are a different species, there isn't a chance of getting pregnant, viruses and colds are usually too species specific, and human germs are far more dangerous to us then a canines germs.

For those who are worried about the welfare and rights of animals, we should look to the billions of meat and dairy animals that suffer systematic animal abuse and cruel methods of slaughter. Hunting of hundreds of thousands is allowed of almost every wild animal in the food chain (if they aren't already nearly extinct) and abandoned and unwanted domesticated animals die by the millions in shelters. Our focus should be on solving those problems instead of attacking a minority with an unpopular orientation.

Animals may not know math on the level we do, or be able to build homes to the hight our society does, but when it comes to personality, feelings, companionship and love, they are definitely our equals. So no, sex with animals is not wrong when the two sides are consenting and enjoying their relationship together.

Side: For
pakicetus(1455) Disputed
1 point

Could you stop reposting this argument? It's an obvious copy-paste, and it's been disputed repeatedly before.

Side: aganist
goodmale(1459) Disputed
0 points

Haha that's a lie because if you didn't care you wouldn't have said anything.

Side: For
2 points

Also I will not be coming here anymore after this because it's getting boring talking to the same people.

It would be if all you do is talk about having sex with your dog.

Side: aganist
goodmale(1459) Disputed
0 points

I have talked about many of many other things but that and stay on the topic.

Side: For
Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

You can't even discuss God without bringing up dog sex.

Side: aganist
2 points

You mean it's time for the devil to create a new advocate, because this one has run it's course.

Make the next one betterer, mmkay?

Side: aganist
goodmale(1459) Disputed
1 point

What are you talking about...............................................................................

Side: For
Intangible(4934) Disputed Banned
2 points

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Side: aganist
1 point

You lose again progressives with your "slippery slope fallacy" comments!........................................................... No sex with animals... no matter how constitutional it will become in 10 or 15 years.

Side: aganist
goodmale(1459) Disputed
1 point

Stop making pointless comments or I will ban you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: For
AngryGenX(463) Disputed
1 point

You know I'm right!!!!!! zoophilia is an orientation lololl. THERE IS NO SUCH THING ANS AN ORIENTATION! There is normal an then there is mental illness. You fall in the latter.

Side: aganist
Hellno(17753) Banned
1 point

Also I will not be coming here anymore

I approve this message.

Side: aganist
goodmale(1459) Disputed
1 point

Stay on topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: For
Hellno(17753) Disputed Banned
2 points

Well, considering that was in the body of the "debate", I'd say my argument was on topic.

Side: aganist

Dont tell people what to do. Thats wrong. .

Side: aganist

Zoophiles are in need of mental treatment.

Animals are trying to live THEIR OWN LIFE. You shouldn’t be canoodling with an animal. The animal doesn’t have sex with you, so all zoophiles are animal rapists.

Side: aganist