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Debate Score:170
Arguments:47
Total Votes:232
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a ninja would beat a pirate in a fight

yes

Side Score: 80
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Side Score: 90
6 points

shurikens,calm martial arts... vrs a poor one shoot powdered gun and a rash vicious sword swinging.

Side: yes
TheHallow1(78) Disputed
8 points

"vrs a poor one shoot powdered gun and a rash vicious sword swinging."

Many pirates had a highly skilled aim and made great use of a gun and just as well had superior swordsmanship.

Side: No
protazoa(427) Disputed
4 points

yes, some pirates were skilled because they survived long enough to learn something. Most pirates, who were a raggedy band of poor ruffians, had no training, no skill, and only a gold lust and urge for survival to fuel them onwards.

Ninjas, on the other hand, were an elite group of assassins that were raised to be killers. Statistical analysis shows that the odds of a talented pirate may be 10% (guestimate). A ninja, on the other hand, borders at around 100% chance of tactical skill. If you were to have a randomly selected pirate fight a randomly selected ninja, who would you bet on beforehand?

Side: yes
drawots(84) Disputed
1 point

lies....pirates are lame ...............................................................................................................................................................................

Side: yes
6 points

Ninja's... think about it. They are never seen when they attack. Sure Pirates have the muscles of a body builder on steroids. But how can you kill something you can't see.

Blackbeard was as tanky as a tank and took s many wounds to kill him, but remember ninja's and fight in different ways. Through gases, liquids, the sort.

Plus ninja stars are pointy and hurt. 'Specially when they enter a pirates eye. Can't shot someone if you can't see.

Side: yes
5 points

And if you include the list of supernatural abilities that ninjas are famed for having, such as flight, invisibility, shapeshifting, the ability to "split" into multiple bodies, the summoning of animals, and control over the five classical elements, pirates would not stand a chance!

Side: yes
6 points

ninjas will win for sure pirates suck like old women on bikes..................

Side: yes
5 points

i depends because the both a have skill but a pirate is most likely to win cause of the sword but remember ninja carry weapon to so its a hard battle and they are often more flexible than pirate cause ninja have more agility and pirate has strength but most like ninja

Side: yes
5 points

ninjas were simple assassins back then, just a cooler name. now if the ninja could attempt a assassination before the fight then there is good chance the ninja would win. but if it was a one on one fight the pirate would probably win. but since the rues aren't laid out clearly I'm going with the ninja because as i mentioned he would most likely succeed in assassinating the pirate beforehand.

o and i think deadliest warrior did a episode on this, and we all know how accurate that show is ;)

Side: yes
TheHallow1(78) Disputed
10 points

You'd be surprised at what a pirate could take before he goes down. Ever heard the story of Blackbeard's final battle?

Side: No
TheHallow1(78) Disputed
9 points

"o and i think deadliest warrior did a episode on this, and we all know how accurate that show is ;)"

I love that show. And although Deadliest Warrior has featured pirates and ninjas in their match-ups, they have never been matched-up in an episode, but here's how I assume it would go:

Pirate vs. Ninja

The stealthy assassins of Japan's feudal era, Ninjas were legendary warriors who inspired fear, awe, and respect. Using the shadows to launch their sneak attacks against whomever they were paid to kill, their mastery of the art of assassination made them valuable to the samurai for espionage and political assassinations. Their wide array of weapons allowed them to kill in many ways.

Pirates were feared fighters who pillaged sea lanes from one end of the world to the other. They used cunning, stealth and deception to create weakness and confusion before they went in for the kill.

Match-ups

Defenses

Surprise vs. Stealth

The main defense of a Pirate was the shock and awe they created from surprise attacks. Ninja used surprise attacks from the darkness to catch their enemies unaware. Edge: Even

Close Combat

Cutlass vs. Ninjato

These weapons are about the same length, with the Cutlass possessing a bit more chopping power because if its heavier blade. However, the Ninjato is a faster and more precise weapon and therefore gets a slight edge. Edge: Ninja

Short-Range

Boarding Axe vs. Kusarigama

The Boarding Axe is a wicked little weapon that can chop and pierce enemies, but the Kusarigama is much more versatile and has a ranged component. Edge: Ninja

Mid-Range

Blunderbuss vs. Shuriken

The Shuriken is a razor sharp little weapon that can be very deadly if it strikes the right place, but the Blunderbuss is devastating and can kill anything that gets within range. Edge: Pirate

Long Range

Flintlock Pistol vs. Blowgun

Blowgun darts can be laced with poison and delivered with greater speed and accuracy, but the Flintlock has better range and immediate killing power. Both are deadly. Edge: Even

Special

Grenado vs. Black Eggs

The Black Eggs have overwhelming ability to incapacitate, but they lack killing power. The Grenado can blast and stun several opponents over wide area. Edge: Pirate

Prediction:

This is a tough fight to call because it will come down to whoever gets the jump on the other warrior. Neither of these killers like to fight fair, but the simulation tries to make things as even as possible. Because of that, I'm going to assume this will be a fairly stand-up fight, maybe in the streets of Yokohama or a seedy tavern near the wharf. In any event, I'm giving the edge to the Pirate in this fight because the Ninja does most of his killing up close and in the range of the Pirate's guns, which is a very bad place to be.

(Kill Estimates)

Kills Pirate Ninja

Close 100 120

Short 70 130

Mid 120 60

Long 140 140

Special 80 40

Total 510 490

Side: No
4 points

Assuming the ninja decided to play fair (well, ninja fair) they would still probably win in a duel/fight to the death/final countdown. I mean, all he would have to do is booby-trap the pirate's rifle, plug his cannons, rot his peg leg... the list goes on. The match would be over before it even began. Maybe the pirate would have time to adjust his eye-patch, activate night vision, and see his imminent doom before it hits him.

Side: yes
4 points

Of course a ninja would be a pirate in a fight. Ninjas are all like now you see me,now you don't and pirates are all like arg,give me your booty!

Side: yes
3 points

Well, it's hard to say really. It all depends on training and some physical characteristics.

If it's a well trained ninja, probably the ninja because he would never go head to head, but would assassinate like a thief in the night. That is their training, after all.

However, if he wasn't as well practiced in his skill, or the pirate was well practiced in his skill, the ninja may be found out and be forced in head to head fighting. However, pirates are a group so likely the ninja would die because he would not be able to take on a whole group of veteran fighters.

Of course, if that ninja were Bruce Lee, well, Bruce Lee would probably never go after the pirate because Bruce Lee didn't like to take on opponents unless there was a prudent reason to do so. I mean he declined martial arts matches for this reason against people he probably could have beaten just due to his sheer speed and agility if nothing else.

My final answer, if trained well enough and the pirates weren't prepared enough, then yes, because he'd assassinate with stealth. If either of the two conditions were opposite, then probably not because the ninja would have to be able to fight better than the pirate and be fast enough to fight more than one at a time.

Side: yes
2 points

sure a pirate has a gun but back then there guns would have been terrible. also a ninja has skill with a variety of different weapons that could kill a pirate before he had time to grab his pistol .

Side: yes
PirateLord(90) Disputed
8 points

A ninja isn't as swift as you might believe. You may want to actually research the extent of a ninja's skill before you make such a misguided claim.

Side: No
2 points

a ninja wou;d just like backflip and throwing knive the pirates in the head and then teabag him its an unfair debate a nnja would be ninja and stealthy and slit his throat

Side: yes
1 point

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Side: yes
1 point

a ninja would beat a pirate in a fight because ninjas have some mad skilsssss so there

Side: yes
1 point

ninjas are sneaky and fast and smart and tricky never underestimate the intelligence of a ninja!

Side: yes
0 points

ninjas are way sneakier than pirates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and better fighters!

Side: yes
0 points

ninjas would soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo win! pirates just blindly rush in ninjas think

Side: yes
0 points

ninjas are like asassins quick and smart and way better in a fight than stupid pirates!

Side: yes
0 points

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Side: yes
0 points

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Side: yes
2 points

I'm fairly certain your average Somali Pirate would win, having use of an assault rifle and an assortment of second-hand/black-market military equipment giving him a slight edge.

Side: No
1 point

Unlikely. A pirate possesses more powerful brutality and a Ninja wouldn't survive long in a face-to-face fight against a Pirate. A Ninja's only advantage is stealth and attacking from behind. One bullet is all it takes and they're done.

Side: No
1 point

I concur. In fact, did you know that Blackbeard (a.k.a: Edward Teach) was shot no fewer than five times and took about twenty sword stabbings during his final battle and still did not die. It was only after he was decapitated did he finally die.

Side: No
casper3912(1581) Disputed
-3 points
TheHallow1(78) Disputed
1 point

Yes and no. A ninja is indeed agile but not as fast as you probably believe. Their skills have been greatly exaggerated by pop culture. And neither rain nor a bucket of water would affect the powder if it was already inside the gun.

Side: No
1 point

no pirates have guns........pirates 1 up...............................................................................

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Side: No
drawots(84) Disputed
1 point

ninjas have throwing stars...........ninjas 1up ...............................................................

Side: yes
mudkipz2(358) Disputed
-2 points
1 point

Assuming it's a fair fight, the ninja would probably win. But we're talking about pirates here. Pirates cheat. Constantly. Because they're pirates. There is no such thing as a fair fight with a pirate, you see.

Side: No
2 points

Anyone notice how handsome I am? Because, gosh darnit, I'm pretty handsome.

Side: No
protazoa(427) Disputed
1 point

are you honestly suggesting that a pirate cheats more than a ninja? ninjas are ALL about traps, deception, and trickery. If properly executed, the ninja may have already set the pirate's rifle to backfire before the fight, so that when the pirate takes his shot he is instead greeted by a face full of metal shrapnel.

Also, ninja martial arts are a series of sophisticated combat techniques that take years of practice, training, and bad-assitude.

Pirates, however, were often impressed (not in the general sense), meaning that they picked up random people and forced them to become pirates. no training, no skills, just a means of survival.

Side: yes
Warlin(1212) Disputed
1 point

If properly executed, the ninja may have already set the pirate's rifle to backfire before the fight, so that when the pirate takes his shot he is instead greeted by a face full of metal shrapnel.

You're assuming too much of a common ninja.

Also, ninja martial arts are a series of sophisticated combat techniques that take years of practice, training, and bad-assitude.

Maybe a fictional ninja would have a level of badassitude. Maybe. And once again, you're assuming too much of the common ninja. I mean, if you want to say that, I can boast that all pirates are capable of being shot multiple times and being stabbed over two dozen. Doesn't make it true.(Except in like, one case. Then it's true.)

Pirates, however, were often impressed (not in the general sense), meaning that they picked up random people and forced them to become pirates. no training, no skills, just a means of survival.

You pick up the training pretty fast when every day is a struggle to survive. Especially when you're an outlaw like that.

You're also forgetting that pirates wouldn't be infamous if they weren't effective. There wouldn't be any romantic fixation with pirates if they sucked at doing what they did.

Side: No
1 point

I concur with The Hallow. The Ninja, as much as I like them, do not have the Brutality and Salt of a Pirate. Ninja's are honor-bound and respectful even to their most hated opponent, which will make them give a merciful death.

A Pirate, on the other hand, has almost no morals and has no problem stabbing you into the deck of his ship, his only regret will be damaging his ship. The Pirate will take any chance he has to kill his enemy, even if it's stabbing them in the back. Plus, he's got a gun.

Side: no