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 atheists here is a logical proof of GOD (95)

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atheists here is a logical proof of GOD

DO NOT DISPUTE ANYTHING OTHER THEN WHAT IS SPOKEN IN THE VIDEO TO KEEP THE BOARD FROM DUMB JOKES

BECAUSE ATHEISTS ARE SO GOOD AT DEVIATING FROM THE SUBJECT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBfG2vJ4X18

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4 points

The existence of the earth is not even evidence of God let alone proof.

Saying that it is is like saying that Fairy rings are proof of the existence of Fairys, which it obviously is not.

The fact of evolution does not explain anything about non-biological systems, it is a biological fact that all life evolved from humble beginnings, it shows the lack of knowledge on the subject of Natural Selection that someone would use it as an example to explain abiotic systems, and cosmological theory.

The speaker in the video compares mans technological achievements to the biological workings of the Human body as if they were some form of perfection to be admired. if the Human eye (the evolution of which is well documented) is so perfect then why is an owls eye better? It shows the deluded mind when a man compares mans achievements to biological ones as evidence of the existence of a creator.

The truth is the more science answers questions the further back the religious push the involvement of God, there is no proof of God and I doubt there ever will be.

My favorite one is we can not deny that we exist, well if this is not pointing out the obvious I don't know what is.

He then proceeds to explain that if we are existing and sustaining ourselves on a host of environmental phenomena that we are not the authors of then surely some higher power is

This is always going to be the position of the the Theist, to explain something then leads to another fall back position that is then as I said above the point of involvement of God.

God created, legislation, morality and the systems in which to live

Where is the proof of this, there is evidence that morality evolved from mutual altruism which would explain legislation. As for as for the systems in which we live, they are explained in detail in a great many books and studies, pick one and google it.

After this this already ridiculous rant falls into Islamic Babble, it does not prove anything it is the same old questions of morality in your children and Blah, Blah, Blah.

What did interest me was his explanation of Islam stating that submission is freedom and that Islam is a system of integration and social balance. Social balance? Integration? tell that to the Burka wearing women in the sweltering heat, or the Homosexuals in Islamic countries that by fear of death have to stay in the closet. Why are Muslim women only allowed to marry Muslim men? Why is there no freedom of speech?

Tell me, What is the penalty for apostasy?

There was too much wrong with that video to account for them all here.

3 points

can i not replace everything that the speaker said with the flying spaghetti monster?

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2 points

Easily, just copy paste it onto a new debate and start your substitution.

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abubakar31(176) Disputed
1 point

How can you copy paste and substitute when it is a video. that's exhibition of rice's stupidity.

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2 points

Correction as pointed out to me, we will have to get a camera and some Muslim attire. If you write down everything the dude says then we can film it.

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2 points

EXCELLENT! wont we have to get the spaghetti monsters chosen clothing? aka pirate suite? and wont we need to have it on a pirate ship? this should be fun

Side: God doesn't exist
2 points

You not only can, but should. The flying spaghetti monster is much more fun than the speaker's boring higher power. :)

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abubakar31(176) Disputed
1 point

this world was created to be only a temporary delight those who enjoy now like just having fun kick in it who don't want to have anything with siriussness will not have a portion of the enjoyment of the parmanent life.

This world had been created to only be one way and that way is disposable

the human is usable once and then once it dies it is disposable

the world itself will die one day

the life life you have will come out of you and you will be worthless

in order to use this disposable life well you need read the users manual and that users manual is called the quran which questions the infidel it says:

how can you deny Allâh(GOD)? When you were without life He gave you life, then He will cause you to die and again raise you to life and you shall be made to return to Him TO BE JUDGED BY YOUR GOD. (2:28)

MAY BE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE JUDGED BUT WATCH THIS VIDEO IN THAT CASE

MAY BE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE JUDGED BUT WATCH THIS IN THAT CASE
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abubakar31(176) Disputed
1 point

the rule is to walk the talk before just talking the talk without walkiing the walk. those who use flying spaghetti monter are feeble minded who can't understand anything any one says and even if they do understand it then they can't respond thus the best smartest move they can make is to copy paste and replace somewords. get your ignorance out of here and get a brain cwmdulais i think they sell it on ebay.

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cwmdulais(188) Disputed
2 points

as a follower of his noodly guidance i will not resort to petty anger and hate, he hopes that you will one day open your eyes to his tasty meatballs, and will be accepted into his heaven, that has a stripper factory and beer volcano, I'm am very saddened at your small attempt at wit, as it is clouded by the lasagne's hate, spaghetti be with you RA-men

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2 points

A youtube video won't convert the staunch atheist.

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abubakar31(176) Disputed
1 point

no one shall judge a book by it's color!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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No one should judge a book by it's cover. However, many do.

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CubeGlider(132) Disputed
1 point

However, it may convince a couple of people who are not sure of what they believe. But then, so could a video stating the opposite.

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1 point

Wow his argument was weak. Planets form from nebula, gravity draws matter together to form spheres.

Primitive superstitions indeed.

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abubakar31(176) Disputed
1 point

# 1 your brain is fiction it bestows fiction it loves fiction it depends on hearing fiction but once truth is exposed to it. it transforms it your heart becomes emotional and your brain becomes disfunctional to be compatible to truth or something called god. your whole life is a dream once death shuts u down from this material world. thats when you'll wake up to find yourself in a house of fire. it's then you'll find out you was not that smart all along. dream dream dream and enjoy the dream for now.

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aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

I have no idea what you're talking about. Did you just write down a poem? Lyrics to a song? I can't follow what you wrote at all.

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abubakar31(176) Disputed
1 point

Wow you are asleep wake up & pay heed please it's then you will see.

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1 point

How do u smart ones explain the rainbow that god left after he flooded the earth? He left it to show HE, GOD, would never destroy the earth again.

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abubakar31(176) Disputed
1 point

Guess what the Quran didn't import any of bibles mistakes........ now note that prophet Muhammad (saws) didn't possess microscpic tools to do all this But he had access to God on his side. Quran has stood scientific and every other kind of tests that the Bible could not. The truth is right before your very eyes but you can't even vesualize as tupac said.

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CubeGlider(132) Disputed
1 point

The truth is not before our eyes. An answer is before our eyes, but there are plenty of other answers too, and I believe that quite a few of them are more likely theories than this one.

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How do u smart ones explain the rainbow that god left after he flooded the earth? He left it to show HE, GOD, would never destroy the earth again.

In answer to your question, this is how the smart ones explain rainbows:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow

You can find all kinds of information about other things primitive man didn't understand thousands of years ago when the Bible, Quran and other instruction manuals for the deluded were written there too!

You should check it out.

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Mjsrid(7) Disputed
1 point

Natural Selection - What does it select and how it decides? What is the Intelligence that allowed to come to a conclusion?

If we see few selections:

1. Week are Protected - Ex. Mammals overtook Dinosaurs

2. Wicked are destroyed - Ex. Evil civilizations always got destroyed

3. Planned Execution - Wonderful success rate (absolute no wast)

4. Beauty beyond description - Needs great skill set to achieve it!

If this is done by Intelligence, How do we describe it? God!!!!

Amazing you got it :)

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aveskde(1935) Disputed
2 points

Natural selection is the opposite of intelligence. It is a brute-force, blind method of achieving amazing results with inheritance and mutation.

God isn't necessary.

Side: God doesn't exist
1 point

The man in the video states that the earth is evidence that some higher power created it. I see no reason as to why the earth can't be evidence that the big bang caused it, or that some weird fluke of nature that made everything exist caused it. The man there was a great speaker, but his logic was a bit flawed.

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abubakar31(176) Disputed
1 point

what is the big bang you just have a vague understanding of it not only quran mentioned the big bang but also well explained it.

I dare you to watch this video the whole 10 mins as your direct answer to your question.

quran and big bang
Side: God doesn't exist
1 point

again, the quran provides AN explanation of the big bang but there are plenty of other explanations out there that seem way more likely to me. it just makes more sense to have been caused by a fluke of nature then to it have been created. for it to have been created, then it needs a creator, and then that begs the question of who created the creator? it's simpler and makes more sense for the universe to have just have come for some other reason.

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ricedaragh(2498) Disputed
1 point

I watched this video and it is bullshit. the Qu'ran verse in question is very vague.

Why did Allah in his infinite wisdom not give an accurate description of the Big Bang?

Why do you need to prove the existence of Allah?

If you are open to proving the existence of Allah then you must by Logic be open to his non existence. Surely faith is enough and all doubters will get their punishment.

Also if science tomorrow proves the big bang theory wrong where will that leave your explanation?

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aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

what is the big bang you just have a vague understanding of it not only quran mentioned the big bang but also well explained it.

I dare you to watch this video the whole 10 mins as your direct answer to your question.

I'm sorry, but the Koran does NOT describe the big bang. It uses metaphorical language that only now with our knowledge of the big bang enables us to read science into metaphor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Overview

THIS is a description of the big bang. Notice how science, aka knowledge, is detailed and not vague.

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1 point

rice's answer

If you hate Western Culture so much why do you live in America?

the reasons i hate the western culture are as follows

you must be currupted to love giving birth to illigitimate children.

you must be sick to love the abortion of 2000 children every single day within the western world

if muslims hate freedom we don't but we do when the freedom bought by murdering little children.

you must be sick to love to be one of the moms who come trying to find the fathered of her child from among 10 or even more she slept with.

you must be a very sick person to go on jerry to admit you've slept with your own brother or sister.

telling woman muslims take the freedom of their woman away but on the other hand american exploits their woman then it is a common knowledge that woman are nothing but whores.

that's absolutely discusting to me.

this is not a culture it is instead a curroption. desease crisis

and the foregoing statements were not intended to connote hate towards people.

reason i live in america is because theres war, hunger, calamities, and every other kinds of catastrophes in my country.

so who is corrupting the world watch the video below you will know who.

some currupted sick devil people nourish themselves with the pain of others & I have to say that isn't fair.

and you must be sick to think that's just.

confession a witness
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ricedaragh(2498) Disputed
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you must be currupted to love giving birth to illigitimate children.

If a child has a loving parent then that parent loving giving birth to that child is not wrong.

you must be sick to love the abortion of 2000 children every single day within the western world

No body loves abortion, it is something that has to happen sometimes as it is for the best, I agree that it is too easy to get one though in countries where it is legal, where I live abortion is still illegal.

if muslims hate freedom we don't but we do when the freedom bought by murdering little children.

No freedom is bought by murdering children, where do you get this idea from.

you must be sick to love to be one of the moms who come trying to find the fathered of her child from among 10 or even more she slept with.

I am a man this does not affect me, I do however think that you are generalizing western women, my wife, my sister, my mother, my female friends that have children all live with and know the fathers of their children.

you must be a very sick person to go on jerry to admit you've slept with your own brother or sister.

The people on Jerry Springer are actors numbnuts.

telling woman muslims take the freedom of their woman away but on the other hand american exploits their woman then it is a common knowledge that woman are nothing but whores.

Islam does take away the freedoms of women to dispute this is blind, why do you think that America is the only country in the western world? To say that western women are nothing but whores is to try and insult all the women that I know, and they are not whores.

reason i live in america is because theres war, hunger, calamities, and every other kinds of catastrophes in my country.

So you think it is OK to bask in western freedom, if you hate it so much why don't you go back and fight the cause, you are a hypocrite.

so who is corrupting the world watch the video below you will know who.

some currupted sick devil people nourish themselves with the pain of others & I have to say that isn't fair.

There is no doubt in my mind that there is corruption and unfairness in the way some western establishments treat other more developing nations.

You are generalizing, you are labeling all people the same because they disagree with your views, you are truly the one blind to truth if you think that Islamic countries do not carry out atrocities of their own, what about suicide bomber training camps for children?

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this is the reason jews pharissees plotted to crusy jesus because he was exposing the truth of god to people but the pharissees didn't like that idea.

thus they have spread false rumors that jesus is calling himself the son of god.

but today they are spreading misleading rumors against khalid yasin to slander him on the internet why because he is exposing the truth of the westerners and islam. multiple are accepting after each and every one of his speach.

in this world there are good and devil people the devils will never like anything about GOD and they do anything to destroy the massage of GOD.

BUT GOD said

when truth comes to existance falsehood and fiction vanishes sincerely fallacies and deceits are bound to perish and vanish.

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this is the reason jews pharissees plotted to crusify jesus because he was exposing the truth of god to people but the pharissees didn't like that idea.

thus they have spread false rumors that jesus is calling himself the son of god.

but today they are spreading misleading rumors against khalid yasin to slander him on the internet why because he is exposing the truth of the westerners and islam. multiple are accepting islam after each and every one of his speach.

in this world there are good and devil people the devils will never like anything about GOD and they'll do anything to destroy the massage of GOD.

BUT GOD said

when truth comes to existance falsehood and fiction vanishes sincerely fallacies and deceits are bound to perish and vanish.

22 people accept islam
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0 points

F I S H

That's how you spell fish. Just keel over and I'm sure it'll all come rushing back to you.

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