communism
communism
Side Score: 2
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capitalism
Side Score: 6
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Communism is clearly the better of the two forms ideology. This can be confirmed by people asking themselves the questions. Would I prefer to live in Russia or the United States of America? Or would I wish to live in China or the United Kingdom? Or, to go back to recent history, Eastern Germany or Western Germany? Or, what about the gaping sociological difference between 'go ahead' Cuba and primitive, ''stick in the mud' Belgium which has a similar sized population. If one compares the positive aspects of living in North Korea with the repressive regime of South Korea where the poverty stricken population starves so their megalomaniac dictator can fulfill his ambitions of military supremacy within his region one must logically conclude that communism with all it's emphasis of equality and prosperity for all is by far and away the better of the two systems. Side: communism
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Communism is a failed ideology as it is based on the premise that everyone is equal, which of course they're not. In Stalin's communist Russia some 20 to 45 million, ''equal'' people were slaughtered like pigs to try to make this fanciful notion work. Who were the 'equal' members of this communist society who decided that 10s of millions of their ''equal'' comrades should die? In all things, from politics to corporate management there will always be a hierarchy who will control the destiny of the lower orders. The argument that communism is a desirable form of political ideology is akin to arguing that the earth is flat. Of course there will always be those retards who will try. Side: capitalism
Strange that you don't know the facts about communism. There are currently 5 failing communist countries, and 15 previously failed communist countries. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/ Communism is an idealistic fantasy, that has NEVER succeeded. While capitalism has lifted the standard of living higher and for millions more people than ANY other system EVER. Those are the facts. Side: capitalism
It is immoral to steal from people even if you put it to a vote. You don't get to steal from people just because you want their stuff. Communism is an immoral idea both on paper and in practice. The basic premise on Communism is "I'm here, I'm breathing, give me free stuff". Capitalism is the opposite. Capitalism is the idea that if I do not give you a good or service that you want, I will starve. If I don't give you something you want I wont eat. There has to be a trade. You cant tell someone, for example, who spent the past 7 years working their ass off for a medical degree that they now have to take care of you because you are entitled to their care. There has to be a trade and some sort of consensus between the parties involved. You have to give me something that I want and I have to give you something that you want. Side: capitalism
It is immoral to steal from people even if you put it to a vote. If stealing is agreeably defined as "taking someone else's property", then stealing happens in capitalism, all the time. The difference between capitalist theft and communist theft is capitalist theft serves a concentrated, powerful few: communist theft serves a widely dispersed many. The way I see it, powerful institutions steal from me all the time. They steal my democratic right as a citizen to direct my nation, through lobbying for their own concerns with a financial stick that is much bigger than mine is: they steal my children's right to an education by funding partisan politics that enables the privatization of what I feel ought to be public concerns: they steal my leisure hours and downtime by maintaining through political lobby a form of wage slavery wherein I should work fifty hours a week to make them rich, while receiving only a miniscule fraction of the wealth I have directly helped to create, a system which fundamentally keeps the majority of the human race in a perpetual struggle to earn enough money to survive, but rarely ever to truly live. As far as I am concerned, what a communistic economy may steal from them in monetary terms is of far less value than what they steal from me in my time, my freedom and my opportunity in life. You don't get to steal from people just because you want their stuff. Tell that to the private bankers and financial big-wigs who have forced the countries of the world to bail out their failed businesses with obscene quantities of tax dollars four times in the last century alone. The basic premise on Communism is "I'm here, I'm breathing, give me free stuff". It's a lot more complex than that. I'm going to assume you haven't ever actually read Das Kapital. Capitalism is the idea that if I do not give you a good or service that you want, I will starve. If I don't give you something you want I wont eat. This is better than democratic, communal control of wealth and resources, how? You cant tell someone, for example, who spent the past 7 years working their ass off for a medical degree that they now have to take care of you because you are entitled to their care Most doctors and nurses I know pursue careers in medicine precisely because they feel as though human beings ought to be entitled to care. There has to be a trade and some sort of consensus between the parties involved. Has to be? I would dispute that as an assertion made without substantiation. As for consensus, if the consensus is that a country's wealth and resources be directed by the citizens and not by the centralized forces of power, would you still be as virtuously defensive of the concept of consensus? You have to give me something that I want and I have to give you something that you want. I want a democratic say as part of a consensus in issues of economic, cultural and legal importance. Don't you? Side: communism
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