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one of my opponents says krishna has followed some unfair means let me tell my friend he wants to teach people unfair means is always unfair and it must be avoided at any cost..... he also makes the point whether one will be ready to taste failure after hardwork.......... what absurdity it is hard work will never take you to failure is he ready to follow unfair means in the exams to get good marks?????? Krishna's words are very clear if you work hard you need not look for the fruit it will come itself.... Side: yes
friend, i feel your speech is not in a correct manner Lord Krishna wanted to show that we must suppress the Evil no matter what ever the means be. well, consider your own situations- Do you work hard to get Knowledge or good marks or just because the hard work is the best way that can be used to achieve you end? means have no meaning without a perfect result You write the Exams and you will surely be very anxious about your marks. Then how can you say that you need not look for the fruit???? You debate only to win dont you? Side: yes
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the scope of education extends far beyond obtaining marks- its main aim is to acquire knowledge and use it in your day to fay life in a positive manner. if someone says you are fit for nothing in studies it does not mean the end of the world. we could be having any other talent and we use it to shine in our life life. so we ultimately aspire for success in life. (the End) Side: yes
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i think many of us know about emperor Asoka.he was behind the war of Kalinga. He wanted to achieve the end, i.e to extend his territory and conquer Kalinga and he did succeed. But what happened after the war? He realized that the end was not worth the means by which it was achieved. He repented for what he did and today, he is one of the most remembered kings in history of India. Even though he killed so many people during the war, he is remembered for his repentance after it as he learned that the "means" wasn't correct. Rashmi Side: No
do you know how the battles of the past were won successfully even before enterring the battlefield? it is the result of PLANNING planning leads to perfection so i believe that planning is none other than the means used i suppose? i conclude that means are more important. Side: No
princy, listen to me. if your plan in the battle flied fails, the planning is no longer regarded as a good one .but whether you win or not the end is constant it is always the best end. victory is always a good one your planning will come into the existence of the society only if it is able to get you to the end.so it is not important. moreover, you plan only to win. if you are planning for something, it shows that you are trying to achieve your end at any cost, because it is more important to win the battle and save your motherland rather than thinking that killing people is a sin. you should also think that if you don't kill them, they will kill you and your dependents. Side: yes
Situations. Situations. There are way too many variables left out of these little sayings. Like what IS the end and what ARE the means? If killing someone would save the whole world, does it justify the end-is the end more important? Maybe. But what if you killed someone to save your baseball card collection... Then is the end more important than the means? As far as these concept goes, it's impossible to tag one thing as more important than the other because the means may have more impact than the end or vice versa. Side: Too many variables
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actually, ankit joshi is wrong because though we need a starting but we work and use the means for a definite destination and that destination is the end. And I would like to remind one thing to you that it has been said that end is more important than the means but it has not been said that means is not important. Only the comparison has been made. Side: yes
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If we take values, morals, ethics into account and count it more towards the spiritual way then means definetly becomes the most important factor. Its natural for everyone to look back at where they come from and want to show their struggles. This justifies the importance of means. "True good is never achieved by the doing of evil"- Adolf Hitler is an EXAMPLE !! Side: No
dear vaish; i had liked to say that your speech was correct; but i felt that you stepped into wrong perceptions and conclusions : the last of your speech is , of course not the correct saying- to prove my rebuttal, i will Base myself on your own example so that it will be easy for anyone to understand: You have mentioned about Adolf Hitler: An autocrat and the main person behind the mass killing of Jews ; but do you agree that his death is the True good for Jews? in that case, just think what means have been used by England, France and other countries to Force him to commit suicide? Do you think that war is a better mean? NO!!!!!!!!! Then how can u say that good is extractable only from good means???????????? Sorry to hurt u r feelings Bye Side: yes
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No, results are not the only thing that matters. If we followed this maxim, then cheating your way through school, but graduating as valedictorian would be fine. The end is justified. The way you achieve something is as important as the end result. I think this saying was created in order to justify unjustifiable actions, as a way of ignoring ethical obligations and getting away with it. Unfortunately, it simply doesn't work. Side: No
i cant understand how my worthy opponent fails to see the difference between the justification of the mean on the basis of the end obtained and the importance to the end. for eg. america used nuclear weapons to win the war. THE END IS ALWAYS GIVEN IMPORTANCE IN THE WAR LIKE THAT> NOT THE MEAN USED. BUT IT IS FAR FROM JUSTICICATION OF THE MISUSE OF NUCLEAR ENERGY. Side: yes
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The end, unlike the cheese, does not stand alone. It was the result of some previous action(s) taken. So the importance of the end cannot be considered alone. It is equally important to be moral in the means by which you achieve something as the end which you sought. If it were true that the end were more important than the means, then terrorism ought to be perfectly acceptable. Afterall, the end is what matters. The reason I brought up the justification argument is that the original quote by Machiavelli is "The end justifies the means", so I was really only bringing it up in order to dispute the saying itself. Side: No
But we will not talk about the means till we do not even think about the end. Suppose, you are climbing over the Mt. Everest but you would only talk about the used means in that, when you would make it definite that what your actual aim is and what do you actually want to achieve Side: yes
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This is a very surprising point and I have a strong point against that: No movie finishes without an end and about the special effects by the means, actually, we cannot use them till we are moving towards the end. So, end has already made a pathway for the others to came and means are just the sources to follow that path and nothing else Side: yes
In every war, every act of oppression, every instigation of genocide, every institution of slavery . . . have we not always argued that the ends would justify the atrocities of the means? And did they? ..... Ends: Promoting democracy Means: Vietnam War ..... Ends: Increasing material resource trade to Europe Means: Apartheid ..... Ends: Preparing a young person to be married Means: Genital mutlilation ..... Ends: Exploration of New World Means: Genocide and forced relocations of Native peoples ..... Ends: Healthy economy of southern states Means: Slavery ..... I agree with Spooner - the saying "the ends justify the means" is all-too-often an excuse to disregard ethics, and to attempt to justify the unjustifiable by slapping a platitude on it. Side: No
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The means is much much more important than the end. suppose you want to be the person with the top marks in class or college, what you need to do is study really hard... but instead the common practice is copying or peeking. if found out, this can lead to your failure in not only the exam, but also in life. you will become known as a rowdy. why not avoid all that and just rectify your means for reaching a desirable end? after all, you know the old saying... "prevention is much better than cure" Side: No
If your means undermine your end, then you haven't won at all. For instance, "fighting terror" to make the world a better place only made the world hate the United States, and it's not doing anyone any favors. If you achieve an end by tainted means, the end will be much more difficult to achieve in the long run. Side: No
I am shocked that the question of whether the end is more important than the means even came up? How can it be? it was discussed before about what Krishna said, but what is the point of defeating evil if we become evil in the process. Example: You are fighting a war for freedom but if you use the labour of slaves to win the war. You win your freedom at the cost of the freedom of others. Side: No
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But the whole peeps in the world is about the "Zameer" and what wuold you say to god when you go to him which you have to do anyways but if you become Bush and destroy a whole nation just for the sake of your family enemiship with mr. saddam hussein and for the lots of Oil which he owned Is that justified End Result IRAQ is in complete Chaos okk you ppl might don't think this way but just to end the world war II bombing Hiroshima / Nagasaki was right ? end Result war ended But Side Effects Human s in japan Completely are destroyed Does anyone has a counter argue ment for this Side: No
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I read many of d arguements written by u all n saw that maximum number of people considering end as d more important thing.........would juz lyk to put an arguement in reference to D movie three idietz which became really popular..........d only thing Mr.Amir khan wanted to tell b a able person dont frget ur real identity reaching that peak point just carrying on the way just seeing the goal never make u a real person rather reaching there when u again think that.....iz that wz imp to give up my moral values to reach this point.......aapka zameer aapko kabhi ijazat nahin dega.....think twice Side: No
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In the short term, No. A 'good' end attained by 'bad' means almost always boils down to the means being favorable towards the desired end (and maybe a subsection of those involved) but being unfavorable towards the majority. The ill will this generates can (and often does) overturn any good that may have been accomplished by the 'good' end. Only in the long run can the end be seen as more important than the means. Side: no
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I posted on both sides of this debate; in the long term I believe the ends are more important. That said, I should note that I do not favor the long term over the short term or vice versa. When I say long term, I'm talking multiple generations, so when a need is immediate long term planning is not particularly useful. Similarly, some short term sacrifices are acceptable, even necessary, for long term prosperity. Side: no
the road of life never twists and turns... it is ur actions that make you and ur path turn and coil. So your life is decided by your actions which is nothing but a result of a many kind of mental decisions . so ultimately, ur life is directly dependent on how u perceive ur end Side: yes
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i strongly feel that end is far more important than the means used to obtain the result. the point is clearly evident from the fact that when you join a new school,or make a new friend, one of the questions that they will pose is What u want to become in the future? and not how u want to become like that. As stated by my friend in this competitive world, the destination of your journey is important not the path taken. Side: yes
dear , there are a number of means to reach ur destination. the end can be reached through any one of these... even if your path is not right, your determination towards goal will take u there.. means r neither good nor bad. it is the way we perceive it.. the same mean is good for someone and bad for others. because all fingers are not same in height. Side: yes
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i think my frnd u r a little bit confused abt d topic.The topic asks dat ''what matters?'' The goal which u want to accomplish or the methods or means dat u use to achieve it.now u tell me,whatever u want to become in future, whether u can become without using good means? Now i m giving u a very solid instance dat will remove your all doubts........ Consider d case of a sportsman.what do u think his aim is? to become a worldclass famous player.Suppose,he has achieved his aim but wat happens with him if he is found to be indulge in taking drugs????????????? his whole career is spoiled,his whole fame is lost.jst by using a wrong mean he looses everything what he has achieved till nw.. So,what becomes important????MEANS or END???? Ofcourse MEANS..... Side: No
yes, end is more important than means because we do all the things for the end or we can say good results but not for watching what essential and important things have been used. e.g. our parents do many things for us but they use several things without caring that what they have used. Instead, they know that what they have used will surely give a good end. Side: yes
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And if your parents beat you into submission, is that a good means to an end of doing well in school or other places? No, it's not. You're going on the assumption that everyone's journey is a good one, a fair one and not an unjust one. That's just wrong because some people will step all over others to get what they want. All they care about is the end result and not the means it took to get there. Side: No
Yes, the end is the whole point. Without an end, the means don't matter. Look at the great winners of the world. Do they care what it took to get there? Did they let anything get in their way or slow them down? No. Arnold Schwarzenegger is a winner, and he did what it took to get there. It was very difficult, and he put in a lot of work, but in the end it all paid off. And he didn't have to kill anyone to get there either. He made personal sacrifices in order to get there. But in the end he was a winner because of it. Side: yes
 Philosophically, it may be right to say that means used is important but in practical life, it is highly impossible to give preference to the means alone! How many of you use the sincere means at every point of ur life?  In this contemporary world, if you keep giving preference to the means alone, without any estimation about your end then, even after a lot of hardships you will find yourself in the middle of no where! Then if you turn back to your past, you will find only blank spaces instead of success. Side: yes
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William Shakespeare said,"All's well that ends well".So,of all the cases in the world the end of everything decides whether it is good or bad.If we have to achieve success in life, we have to fix the goal and act accordingly.For example,many philosophers and scientists first decided their aim and went on discovering many valuable things............... If my competitors argue that,in gita Krishna said that we should keep on working hard not expecting any end,then i would like to say that the saying is totally impractical and can't be used in this fast moving 21st century. I would like to rebut that Lord Krishna himself at times used unfair means in the war because he was determined to win the war. In case of the exams you yourselves appear,would you like to fail after doing a lot of hard work..........no,so it proves that if end is good every thing is good. lets take this argument as an example,if you have given your comments then leave this site and let me alone enjoy the points provided.Ha ha ha! Side: yes
Let me take you to the ages of mahatma gandhi. he gave a lot of importance to the means. But let me remind you all that during the chauri chaura incident, India enjoyed the maximum advantage and to be precise, india would have driven out the britishers out of our land, if gandhi had not called off this movement. That was a tremendous mistake made by mahatma, or india would have been pest free long before 1947 and by now it might have made a lot of economical and biologial progess! Side: yes
I agree that cheating is not fair. But the fact is that if you always study hard , you might not get the results you expect. Some people study hard without consulting guide books, taking tutions and coaching classes.Those people are rarely sucessful.But some people do just the opposite.They study only the important and selected questions and consults guide books, takes tutions and coaching classes. In this way they reach their goal and get what they expected or sometimes more than that.Other people will not see how they achieved their goal but only their result. Side: yes
I'd like to ask a question from all my opponents that why are all of them answering and taking part in this debate? This is because they want to prove themselves right which is itself an end but then also they are not knowing about it. they are using several means like the Internet, the informations from here and there but their ultimate end is to achieve the end that is to prove themselves right and they cannot argue about this even they even want to because this is the truth which is bitter for them Side: yes
You're wrong. At least, if you were correct in your assumption, that would be all that I could say, but even you accept that the opposition is working to prove (i.e. focusing on the means, rather than simply stating whether or not this view is right or wrong) their side. An argument without warrant is meaningless, so if you pinned this one someone who simply answered with a 'nay', you'd be absolutely right. Simply pointing out the people value the end, doesn't imply that it's more important than the means. Side: No
dear damon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well your opposition is itself an example to quote that anoop is 200% right!How? Well your opening statement- u r wrong- is your end point or your aim- a kind of destiny to be full filled. Knowingly y or unknowingly, you have given a lot of importance to your aim- by placing it at top of your rebuttal. you oppose someone not because you can, bt because you want to oppose and prove that you are right. you do all these things only to prove that you right.if you shoot the arrow it wont continuously keeping flying. But the point where it landed is important. the arrow may land on your enemy, or you friend , or even yourself. so for everything, an end is required. So judge yourself if your arrow hit you or anoop!! Well sorry if i hurt you. all the best next time Side: yes
As my allies have said it is no point in saying that means justify the ends in 21st century. Henry Wadsworth has said "we judge ourselves by what we feel we could do, while others judge us by what we have already done no matter how we did it". To support his view let us take the example of China. China's child policy, Olympics forced recruitment you all will say are big infringements of individual rights. indeed they are but they have given china a strategic position in the world. Whatever expressions of China we form today will all be faded soon when China will become the next SUPERPOWER of the world. Side: yes
If one doesnt even knows that what is the end of a work or the used means, then what is the importance of the used means. We use the resources but we identify them when we use them. Till they do not come in our use, we are not able to know them and thus they have no identity of their own. Side: yes
i would like to rebut my all opponents favouring means that a poor person can't afford for means, so is it mean this that if he had talent he can't success without means? no my dear lotus grows in mud, talent brings them out which isn't any means success stands on 4 pillars: talent, confidence, hope and positive approach..........so where is the place vacant for the importance of means Side: yes
It is important what you achieve and not how u achieve. After setting a goal, we think in what way we can proceed on. it's good But if we keep thinking on that whether this way is right or wrong and don't start working, we can never progress. We must start working and overcome all the barriers that come against our goal. Today's life is a big competitive world, it's like a war. And there's nothing unfair in war and love. Just our goal must be a good one. So to achieve that goal is the most important thing not the means which might be sometime wrong and sometime right. Side: yes
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The end is more important than the means. This does not mean that the end justifies the means. But it is more important. Thus, beating your child around until he's perfectly obedient, in order to make him into a stronger and more prepared person is wrong. Granted, being a stronger and more prepared person is more important than not being smacked around, but that doesn't mean that it justifies smacking your child around. The childhood pain of your kid is, irrefutably, less important than his adulthood success. Just because something is important doesn't mean that it justifies us doing immoral things to attain it. Side: yes
Yes i favour the motion. As far as terrorism is concerned it is a sheer case of religious fanatism.They can go to any extent to prove themselves they are right.Even they are not accepted by people of same religion. If we look into examples of our history nobody can forget "LORD BUDDHA" who sacrificed everything for acheiving "NIRWANA". Side: yes
"At the beginning of an action I might not be able to determine whether that action is morally right or wrong, but when the morally right goal is successfully achieved, then the steps which led to it must be morally right too." "Remember, people will judge you by your actions, not your intentions. You may have a heart of gold -- but so does a hard-boiled egg." Side: yes
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my dear frend!! if ur frend vl cheat n will get gud marks compare to u than your own society wil ask u to learn from that student without knowing the real reason.... and the society wil not appreciate the cheatr i agree but it is also one fact that society only notic the winers not the losers... btw nyc point by u!! ........Himali...... Side: yes
deepy, i remember a very interesting quote that can help you understand that you are wrong "He who wills his end, wills his means" its meaning is apt to the situation:the person who recognizes his end (aim, scope) will use the best means that suits him and the situation. so, the one who thinks that the scope of the education is just to pass the exams will use his own means, while the students who feel that the education means far more than exams (which is just a drop of it) will surely work hard and use his own best means. so the end will help you decide your mean the scope of education is to .... cannot be explained by an negligent boy like me...but i feel its goal is to give you some knowledge, not all the knowledge(knowledge is an ocean!!) Side: yes
Let us take the example of a weapon, a mean for a soldier. If it doesnt gets in the hand of a soldier, then it has no use but when it achieves its own end that is to be held in a soldier's hand then it becomes useful and achieves its own end making itself useful. So, means can be useful to achieve the end but before that, they have to achieve their own end Side: yes
Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, Mahatma Gandhi and Pt. Jawaharlal Nehru and all other freedom fighters, they kept in their minds the end and they were very much determined to the end that was to see an independent India and then, afterwards , they used the respective means. And at last, they really achieve their end, their target and the goal Side: yes
yes. i agree. if you are searching for your friend's house even without knowing where he is , then there is alot of probability that you may never find him before you correctly know where he lives! in this world, if you keep thinking if your means are proper or not , then you are nothing but a time killer. of course, in a journry, the path used may be important. but ever heard of a journey without any end??? Side: yes
Yes i think end is more important than means. Here we can use the saying of William Shakespeare - "All is well that ends well". We can say practically this is the most accurate or popular form of obtaining a goal. In this fast moving 21st century nobody sees the means, but look upon the end. So we can also put here that we can commit a minor evil to achieve a greater good. Side: yes
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Dear himali, Alexander was a great conquerer of course. But for your kind information, he never succeeded in making his dream a reality! He never conquered the whole world< though he tried and annexed many countries into his kingdom. at the same time , he never destroyed many houses, he fought many wars in which he killed many warriors thats all! Side: No
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well, well, well, we all try to improve our means in both quantity only to achieve a more and more useful and qualitative end. for eg. we all study to achieve knowledge, not only marks... the more we study and understand the concept of the given education,the more we learn. the knowledge is not limited to school. of course the nature is very best teacher. the one how participates in every kind osf wise activity will definitely shine in his life. he is after all able to do all this only he wants to do and achieve knowledge we add sugar in coffee to get a more nice coffee, not because it is a good means Side: yes
friends-How many of you remember Abinav Bindra the arch shooter?? He became famous only after he won the gold medal in Olympics for shooting. Before that , many of us , to be honest, have never heard of a person like that. He is recognized as the first Indian to win a gold medal in Olympics. He achieved his goal........ he became a recognized person- do u see the link? people recognize a person by what you have achieved; not how u have achieved. means play their role of course; but doesn't stand a chance against the Results we get. Only if you get school top marks, you will be known as a hard working student. Many can paint stars; but only a few can make the stars come out as an artists emotional impression . the famous quote "a tree is known by its fruit" is the best example to show that end is very very important in our life. Side: yes
actually we people are not bothered about what is happening with sports in india . the thing we are bothered is cricket . shooting n all who cares to know the name of people .. nobody cares to know who is world no. 1 in shooting . that is the separate case that their family member is a shooter . its not about getting famous or anything . people can get famous because of their means also . its all about achieving the goal matters . Side: No
All right saurabh, Lets go in your way, Since Tendulkar hits a century, You praise him If he goes for single digits for just a 10 matches, you drop him from the team and say that he is not in form! If he goes for ZERO< you say "wo tho bada beverkoof hai, Mai hota to kam se kam pachas runs martha tha" Side: yes
the world always sees the end and means. but the mind of the people tend to enjoy the end not means if your end is meaningful, the people tend to the follow your means. your means may taste sweet, but the end may taste sour. your means may taste sour, but the end may be sweet and enjoyable Side: yes
end is more important. the people's mind first tends to know the result than the means. the most recent example is the unfortunate crash of ap cm's chopper. when the press announced that the wreckage of the chooper has been found, the people asked: "what happened to ysr? is he safe?" these show that people are first concerned with the result of the chopper's crash. when he has been declared as dead, then only the publis started asking: what led to the crash? Side: yes
the example given by u is totally wrong ... man how come you know what people asked .. they didn't even knew that his plane crashed !!! the how can they ask that what led to the crash .. ..? after they came to know that his plane crashed and he died it was obvious media will question what led to the crash .. u have given a stupid example her e.. worth less Side: No
literally peacocks may be beatiful but philosophically.. i feel that crows are ore beautiful. crows are the ones that wake you up in the morning and also, they show that they always follow you and never give up. they stand up in unity. on the other hand, peacocks may give a lot af entairtainment , nut it is short lived only. they cannot be with u for long, neither can u be with them. similar is with means and end. even if you lose or win, means are always there for you and you can try again but the end is not like that. if you win only, it helps you. else, god knows the fate. Side: No
India is a developing country like all other developing countries and it is using several really very important, useful, even expensive and highly technological resources which are all said to be the means but can we say that to make the developing countries developed is less important than the used resources? Side: yes
dhiru bhai ambani adopted many wrong means to achieve his success .. he cheated many people for money. went to jail many times .. he did fraud to many people . he took all the money from the chit fund he had opened and ran away . no body cares about all this now ... more than half of india'a energy industries are run by him ..(his sons ) he inspires many youngsters today ... they also want to achieve like him .. so they should follow his paths . or work hard to achieve like that .. if ambani would have give more importance to the means than he would have landed nowhere . might b a waiter somewhere . but he gave importance to the end ..and u all no wat he has achieved Side: yes
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Well i feel that the end is more important than means because without a goal (end) there would be no true meaning for the means or the path which you take up. Mahatma Gandhiji's approach to achieving freedom was one that of ahimsa and that of other leaders like Bhagath Singh was violence...we cannot simply differentiate between them and neglect ones contribution because the paths taken or the means of achieving their goals was different....we appreciate the contribution of both the great leaders not because of the way they fought....we appreciate their contribution by seeing what they fought for....that is their final goal of achieving freedom is more important than the way in which it was tried to achieve it. Side: yes
yeah .... mahtma gandhi ... followed the path of non violence and peace ... actually india wud have got freedom in 1919 .. because gandhi ji stopped that movement ... though he send many indians to fight for the britishers in the world war .. many indians died there also .. it was not this that he stopped chauri chaura because indians were dieing . he just gave too much importance to the means non violence and peace rather than violence .... it was good for indians nathu ram godse shot him , gandhi ji at that time was leaving for pakistan .. he never wanted those riots so he was going to give punjab , himachal pradesh and jamu n kashmir to pakistan ... that would have worsen the present situation Side: yes
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In the long run, Yes. The 'bad' means used to achieve a 'good' end, in cases where the ill will and actions of those affected by the 'bad' means do not ultimately outweigh the 'good' end achieved, can often be downplayed or even overlooked from a historical perspective. Once those affected by the 'bad' means have passed on, each resulting generation is affected less and less by said means. Eventually, the 'bad' means can be all but forgotten, while the 'good' end is enjoyed by most. Case in point: The slave-based economy of early America. Definitely a bad means to achieve the economic status that allowed America to become relevant in the world government, among other things... but Americans to this day, regardless of race, enjoy a great many things that simply would not be without the huge economic boost that slavery gave us early on. When the means cannot be undone and the end is all thats left, the end is more important. Side: yes
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I posted on both sides of this debate; in the short term I believe the means are more important. That said, I should note that I do not favor the long term over the short term or vice versa. When I say long term, I'm talking multiple generations, so when a need is immediate long term planning is not particularly useful. Similarly, some short term sacrifices are acceptable, even necessary, for long term prosperity. Side: no
End is always important. But why are we all really taking "means" as a negative sense? Means can be positive also. But despite having lots of means one can not be said successful if the end is not achieved. From childhood we are getting acquainted with the thought, "focus harder on your means, don't think of end yet"&"as you sow, so shall you reap". But without clear vision of the future in our mind we may sow wrong seed and then lament in the future. I'm not encouraging to acquire wrong means. Right "means" are important but most important is the "end". Side: yes
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End is more important than means. A very well example to this can be given from the fact that when a teacher explains a topic to a student he always thinks of the topic being cleared to the student not of how it would be clear to the student and for this purpose he uses different materials and even languages ( mother tongue ) but his all in all sole purpose is that the topic should be clear to the student. Side: yes
means achieve their Recognition from the end. for eg. before the advent of gandhi, violence was famous and proper mean because it helped them achieve the end- win the war or drive out enemies etc. But when violence failed to achieve freedom to us ( which is nothing but end), it lost its recognition. Gandhi followed non violence and achieved the goal. It is only due the freedom achieved that non violence became famous. Just imagine , that if gandhi's non violence had failed in bringing freedom to us, would you still believe in it and popularize it? So be sure to take the most direct route to your goals. Never take your eyes off your goal, else you may lose your course. Never look back back in sorrow, else, you may trip. Nevr give up. If at first you dont achieve success keep trying until you achieve it. Be daring to accept the Truth that annop had pointed out. Side: yes
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