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yes, i agree no, i don't agree
Debate Score:31
Arguments:24
Total Votes:34
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guns should not be able to be sold over the counter in america.

please debate on either side to support our debate.

it would be interesting to see what people think about this matter. with everyones thoughts we will use this for a future debate not on this site.

if you do debate, please state why and if you think some arangment should be met inbetween!

 

thanks and i hope that lots of you debate! 

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yes, i agree

Side Score: 13
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no, i don't agree

Side Score: 18

If the guns have a useful purpose, then yes. Otherwise, why would you have the government support a culture of violence? Ideally, there is no reason to carry firearms, and there is no demand in the black market. If this can't be achieved then selling legally is a good temporary fix.

Side: yes, i agree

Yea, i agree, they should only be sold in dark alleys on the black market to all sorts of criminals who would still be able to buy them, and then the people who abide by the law will have no guns to protect themselves from criminals because theyre not familiar with this type of purchasing.

Now see, me, i like to have a little fun on the "dark side" so id buy myself a gun for self protection, i bet i could get a great deal on the streets

Side: yes, i agree
1 point

yes, this is a good point, although i think they should not be sold in dark alleys for criminals, just for the military forces and police

Side: yes, i agree
1 point

Well see thats the point: theres always going to be an illegal market for things that are illegal.

Only allowing armed forces to have guns would be terrible and if that happened there would be a massive power split and civilization would fall to pieces

Side: no, i don't agree
SovietSpy(709) Disputed
1 point

Even if we ban them, how can we make sure that people will not buy it from an arms dealer. Guns can easily transferred from the Mexican Border like drugs and people. These firearms are much more deadly.

Side: no, i don't agree
1 point

in the U.K. there are no guns sold over the counter. this means are crime rate is slightly lower then the U.S. i'm sure if you came and lived in the U.K. you would see what i mean. now imagine if no criminals could get hold of a gun, you wouldn't need a protection, as no criminals have guns. if no citizen had guns, just the forces who know how to properly use it, then we would need to guns for protection, just for war. if no guns can be sold over the counter, less are going to be sold, less are going to be made, and we will be saving millions. not to also be saving materials for what we really need. special modified guns could be given to animal hunters and fishermen, maybe so they only work on certain animals, so they wouldn't be able to kill anything other then that animal. but imagine, if not so many animals were killed with guns, those animals have a right to live. selling guns over the counter means that ANYONE can have guns to just display, kill animals or 'protect themselves'. think like the U.K. snd you will soon see what i mean..... and if you are not a women, or more, still in school, change how you think for this debate, and think how i think, and debate. NO GUSN SHOUDL BE SOLD OVER THE COUNTER IN AMERICA. SEE THE U.K.'S CRIME RATE GO DOWN!

Side: yes, i agree
SovietSpy(709) Clarified
1 point

Can you explain how then will the American people will the firearms and may I ask would this be considered unconstitutional by the 2nd amendment.

Side: yes, i agree
debator2001(16) Disputed
1 point

still, i don't get what you mean by 2nd amendment. THE POINT IS THEY DO NOT GET GUNS. ANYOEN CAUGHT WITH GUNS WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SHOW VALID PROOF THAT THEY CAN BE ARMED WITH A GUN WOUDL BE SENT TO PRISON, OR WORSE, FOR LIFE/KILLED. YOU GET IT NOW???? YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT ME, I WILL BE DEBATING FOR YES I AGREE IN MY DEBATE. WOUDL YOU PLEASE HELP ME OUT A BIT MORE THEN THIS!!!!!!

as a brit you understand.

Side: yes, i agree
1 point

ha. we won the debate. (not here) i will be closing this off now.. i don't need it anymore.. i will still leave it open but nothign more from me.. by then!

Side: yes, i agree
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
0 points

It's tied what makes you think you won?

Side: no, i don't agree

Selling guns over the counter is dumb! There is too much gun violence in America.

Side: yes, i agree

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a startling revelation for 2015. It is projected that deaths from guns will surpass deaths from car fatalities in 2015. An estimated 33,000 Americans will lose their lives from guns as opposed to an estimated 32,000 Americans who will die in car accidents.

The gun violence in America is an American Shame!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-12-19/american-gun-deaths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015

Side: yes, i agree
3 points

First of all i believe it is the right of the state not the federal government to decide how to administer the firearms. If the guns cause crime to go up the state should decide what to do. Secondly i believe they can be given over the counter but not be given that same day, to check their background

Side: no, i don't agree
debator2001(16) Disputed
1 point

imagine you had to make the decision, what would you chose? i don't get what you mean in your second point, could you clarify? here in the U.K. we think very differently. here nobody would say they could be sold over the counter. i think if you thought from this perspective you would agree.

Side: yes, i agree
SovietSpy(709) Clarified
1 point

My second thought says that i think they can not buy a gun that same day. Like they come in and so the owner will have time to look for a criminal background. In like 3 days, they can come in and buy that firearm over the counter.

Side: yes, i agree
2 points

The level of gun control is up to the States so long as they do not ban guns.

If a state wishes to make it that guns can be sold over the counter without even a license or permit, it is their Constitutional right.

Side: no, i don't agree
debator2001(16) Disputed
1 point

well, imagine you were the person making the decision, what would you chose?

Side: yes, i agree
ThePyg(6738) Disputed
2 points

Personally I am for elimination of most government powers, so the ability to regulate gun trade would be little to none. Sold over the counter? Absolutely.

Side: no, i don't agree
2 points

the right to own a gun is one of our most basic freedoms here in the U.S. Criminals are not the only people that own guns. it isnt the gun that kills people, its the person that makes the stupid decision to pull the trigger. owning guns also allows us to protect ourselves. even if we did outlaw guns. criminals would still get a hold of guns illegally. the only difference would be that citizens would not be able to protect themselves

Side: no, i don't agree
1 point

How would people get guns to go duck hunting?

Side: no, i don't agree
debator2001(16) Disputed
1 point

well, first, they wouldn't. you are killling harmless creatures. and if you had to you coudl have a special shop selling animal guns.

Side: yes, i agree
0 points

then how would they be sold?

Side: no, i don't agree
debator2001(16) Disputed
1 point

they wouldn't. that is the point. you could not buy a gun unless you had like a special license. only navy/force or police woudl be able to get them.

Side: yes, i agree
igot1i(7) Disputed
3 points

Understand the 2nd ammendment. One of our basic rights as Americans is the Right to Bear Arms. This isn't just so we can own guns to hunt with and protect ourselves, but to also protect from a tyrannical government. If the government and armed forces were only those with arms, who will protect citizens when the government is tyrannical? Don't think for a second it can't happen here in the US. It already is.

Side: no, i don't agree