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homosexuality is an abomination

homosexuality is an abomination. The majority of them are sexual preditors.They have no contience they don't care about age (the younger the better) and I can't even enjoy a rainbow anymore because they've ruined that for us as well. WTF.

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The vagina is the only part of mankind that is designed to receive the components of an ejaculation safely. The anus is not and is subject to an extraordinarily high infection rate.

The end result is that the fragility of the anus and rectum, along with the immunosuppressive effect of ejaculate, make anal-genital intercourse a most efficient manner of transmitting HIV and other infections."

The only epidemiological studies to date on the life spans of gay men have concluded that homosexual and bisexual men lose up to 20 years of life expectancy.( The Health Risk of Gay Sex by Dr. John Diggs Esecutive summary (i)

Side: yes
ChuckHades(3197) Clarified
1 point

Yea... but fags have more fun doing it. I mean, have you ever seen an unhappy gay man? They always look fabuloth!

Side: yes
1 point

We need to understand the nature for reproduction, that we need a male and female to create a family simple as this, we Know that homosexual cant build a family. But they can adopt a child, which is even worse, and that child what's his chance to become homosexual.

We know that male and female are the perfect couple, with these intimal body parts everything is made for the other to please them.

If a man can give birth to a child in a nature way, I will accept all the gay people. And I will find it normal, but it is not the case!

What if the hole humanity was gay! how could we have children??I dont understand it!

I have meet some gay people, but I never told them its wrong what they do, because they will take it as a offence. It may harm him psychological, to isolation etc. but I will find a sweet harmless way to explain them

Side: yes
Gokumohan(334) Disputed
3 points

We need to understand the nature for reproduction, that we need a male and female to create a family simple as this, we Know that homosexual can't build a family. But they can adopt a child, which is even worse, and that child what's his chance to become homosexual.

YOU need to understand that sexuality is something the womb decides and is set in stone!

We know that male and female are the perfect couple, with these intimal body parts everything is made for the other to please them.

But breasts and vaginas DO NOT please homosexual people! That is part of homosexuality!

If a man can give birth to a child in a nature way, I will accept all the gay people. And I will find it normal, but it is not the case!

What if the hole humanity was gay! how could we have children??I dont understand it!

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SO YOU THINK THAT ACCEPTING HOMOSEXUALITY WILL MAKE EVERYONE HOMOSEXUAL!

Do you believe the theory of evolution? if not then don't bother with the next one.

Evolution affects reproduction, and what it is basically stating is that people being straight will always be the norm, otherwise there would not be two genders in the first place!

Side: no
kountakine(88) Disputed
1 point

YOU need to understand that sexuality is something the womb decides and is set in stone!

Well I heard about that study that If you are male, having more older brothers makes it more likely you will be gay. If you refer to that, I complety deny it, because you can have sexual anal desire and not become gay.

But breasts and vaginas DO NOT please homosexual people! That is part of homosexuality!

I'm sure there was a moment where it pleased to them, but after they might have some new sexual desires which they aroused through imagination and sexual fantasies.

If that's not the case in what is pleasing them? plz tell me

SO YOU THINK THAT ACCEPTING HOMOSEXUALITY WILL MAKE EVERYONE HOMOSEXUAL!

Do you believe the theory of evolution? if not then don't bother with the next one.

Evolution affects reproduction, and what it is basically stating is that people being straight will always be the norm, otherwise there would not be two genders in the first place!

No I dont believe in that non-sense, but rationale thinking we can understand that the reproduction will decrease, which is maybe good for some state because we are overwhelming.

Well there could be more homosexual people in the world, with mass-media, and propaganda they are able to influence alot of peoples mind. But this was to make a point that the reproduction would stop,no kids,no parents, for what do we live then?

All what we want is a better future for our kids therefore we work,go in war,we are happy,we cry, they are our future, so we cant wait for the end of their reproduction!

Side: yes
1 point

If they choose that lifestyle then they should also accept everything that goes with it the titles fag, queer, lesbo, dike, etc. Don't you agree?

Side: yes
1 point

It's gross. I don't understand it and I never will, but from my point of view there is obviously something seriously wrong with a homosexual. I'm not religious, so don't think that I say this because the Bible says it is wrong. It just is.

Side: yes
1 point

I think cherry pie is gross, but that doesn't mean i have the right to stop people from eating it.

Side: no
1 point

The potential for injury is exacerbated by the fact that the intestine has only a single layer of cells separating it from highly vascular tissue that is blood. Therefore any organisms that are introduced into the rectum have a much easier time establishing a foothold for infection than would in a vagina. The single layer tissue cannot withstand the friction associated with penile penetration, resulting in traumas that expose both participants to blood, organisms in feces, and a mixing of bodily fluids. Sounds like homosexuality is wrong, not only morally but health wise as well.

Side: yes
Akulakhan(2985) Disputed
2 points

Studies have shown that heterosexual couples have anal sex more often than homosexual couples. Anal sex isn;t a homosexual act unless it involves homosexuals, by the way. thereby there is homosexual vaginal sex, oral sex, and all the likes. So BOOYAH!

Side: no
BenWalters(1513) Disputed
1 point

First of all, homosexuality is not anal sex. They are two very different things, and your entire argument rests on the basis that they are the same. Therefore, your argument is fundamentally flawed.

Secondly, on what basis do you say that it is morally wrong? It is bad for my health for me to pick a scab, but I would hardly say that this is morally wrong.

Side: no
Jawkins20(140) Disputed
1 point

Homosexuals are attracted to the same sex, being in relationships having sex. The sex they have is anal, how are they not related.

America was founded on God, remember ''In God we trust''. If homosexuality is wrong in God's eyes that makes it morally wrong.

Side: yes
mb66(26) Clarified
0 points

Homosexual in fact doesn't mean just anal sex. Man or woman-faggot or lesbian. There's more to it than man on man. You ever just set somewhere and observe ? Watching, seeing their shifty eyes, the way they scan little girls/boys bodies. Just wishing for a chance alone w/them. No! Well until then you need to shut the hell up.

Side: yes
1 point

Right is right even if everyone is against it and wrong is wrong even when everyone is for it.

Side: yes
1 point

Like I said before if every man became homosexual then you could say goodbye to humanity, now that sounds like an abomination to me as well as billions of others.

Side: yes
0 points

Well I wouldn't go as far to say it's an abomination, I would state that I believe it to be wrong.

However I also see sex for the sole purpose of pleasure wrong as well, which is primarily why I see homosexuality to be wrong. I don't think that gays love each other, I just think they lust after each other's bodies. I've yet to experience anything in life that suggests otherwise (though I haven't met any gay people) and so I can only come to this conclusion.

Side: yes
BenWalters(1513) Disputed
5 points

However I also see sex for the sole purpose of pleasure wrong as well

Homosexuality is not gay sex. Homosexuality is a description of someone who feels intimate towards members of the same gender. They are two completely different things. What could you possibly see wrong with a nervous 15 year old who has a crush with some guy he thinks is cute, with two old women who really enjoy each others company, with two men that have lived together all their lives, without wanting to do anything sexual?

And why do you see sex for pleasure as wrong? Sex is nothing special, nothing sacred, it's simply a natural action that's inbuilt into humans, which release certain chemicals in the brain to make people feel happy during & after it. While these chemicals are there to force us to reproduce (especially in a world where we need less reproduction, not more) I cannot imagine see any problem with sex for pleasure, not reproduction.

And, what about straight sex with a condom, or some other form of birth control? Is there any difference between the two, and does that mean that you think that most consensual relationships are 'wrong'? Have you ever had sex with a condom? Your basis for seeing homosexuality as 'wrong' seems ridiculous to me.

I don't think that gays love each other, I just think they lust after each other's bodies.

I have a gay friend that has crushes on boys just as everyone has crushes on girls. I have gay uncles that have lived together happily for over ten years, who I can see make each other happy just by being together. I have seen gay couples bring amazing happiness into each others lives. Your position is fucking discriminatory and baseless, and flat out homophobic.

But, I shall give your opinion the benefit of the doubt (barely). Why do you think so, what grounds do you have to claim this, how could you possibly think that the millions and millions of gay couples are really only in it for sex?

I've yet to experience anything in life that suggests otherwise (though I haven't met any gay people) and so I can only come to this conclusion.

This just shows how absolutely baseless your beliefs are. Everyone else is good until proven otherwise, but gay people are wrong and immoral until proven good. Your prejudice is appalling.

Side: no
Axmeister(4322) Disputed
1 point

"Homosexuality is not gay sex. Homosexuality is a description of someone who feels intimate towards members of the same gender."

Then where do you draw the line between love and friendship?

"They are two completely different things."

You think I don't know that?

"What could you possibly see wrong with a nervous 15 year old who has a crush with some guy he thinks is cute,"

Considering how these a thoughts, there is nothing wrong with it. There is nothing wrong with anyone thinking anything, unless you one of those who believe thought crimes should be brought in.

"...with two old women who really enjoy each others company, with two men that have lived together all their lives, without wanting to do anything sexual?"

There's nothing wrong, I just assume that they are friends.

"And why do you see sex for pleasure as wrong? Sex is nothing special, nothing sacred, it's simply a natural action that's inbuilt into humans, which release certain chemicals in the brain to make people feel happy during & after it."

It is something between a couple, I believe it is something sacred as it is a process which produces life. Using your logic you could say nothing is special, because we are all biological constructs whose thoughts and feelings are only chemicals.

"While these chemicals are there to force us to reproduce (especially in a world where we need less reproduction, not more) I cannot imagine see any problem with sex for pleasure, not reproduction."

Then why not just stop promoting sex, if the population growth is such an issue?

"And, what about straight sex with a condom, or some other form of birth control? Is there any difference between the two, and does that mean that you think that most consensual relationships are 'wrong'? "

As I said, I believe that sex for the sole purpose of pleasure is wrong. Because then it stops being an intimate form of bonding between a husband and wife and starts becoming a commodity that can be used to promote some people over others. Do you think there would be so much illegal prostitution if sex wasn't done for pleasure?

"Have you ever had sex with a condom?"

How is this relevant?

"Your basis for seeing homosexuality as 'wrong' seems ridiculous to me."

That's because I've yet to highlight why I see homosexuality as wrong. I just said I see it as wrong and I paralleled it to another aspect which I see as wrong as well.

"I have a gay friend that has crushes on boys just as everyone has crushes on girls. I have gay uncles that have lived together happily for over ten years, who I can see make each other happy just by being together. I have seen gay couples bring amazing happiness into each others lives. Your position is fucking discriminatory and baseless, and flat out homophobic."

There is no need to get passionate on such a matter. I just wished to highlight that in the media homosexuality is seen as something fueled by lust instead of love. How do you know that you friend doesn't lust after the bodies of other boys, just as many boys lust after the bodies of girls?

"But, I shall give your opinion the benefit of the doubt (barely). Why do you think so, what grounds do you have to claim this, how could you possibly think that the millions and millions of gay couples are really only in it for sex?"

Because I believe that love is an emotion we a socialised to do, proof of this could be the many cases of feral children who seem to be unable to experience love through the way they were brought up. Therefore, since society for many years has raised every generation to love those of the other sex, I don't understand how two people from the same sex can love each other. However, I will acknowledge that two people from the same sex can 'love' each other as friends do.

"This just shows how absolutely baseless your beliefs are. Everyone else is good until proven otherwise, but gay people are wrong and immoral until proven good. Your prejudice is appalling."

What prejudice?

Side: yes
4 points

Ben did a fine job disputing this, so I'm going to leave most of this post alone. However I will say I think if you ever had met any gay people, the prejudice and ignorance of the statement, "I don't think that gays love each other, I just think they lust after each other's bodies." would be immediately apparent to you.

Speaking as someone who has met and befriended loads of homosexuals (my proximity to SF might have something to do with it... ha ha ha...) I can assure you they are in every regard just like you and I (they love, they lust, they care, they get jealous, they empathize, the whole bit) except they are attracted to members of the same sex and you and I are attracted to members of the opposite sex. That is literally the only difference. The only emotion a heterosexual can feel that a homosexual cant is, presumably, an attraction towards the opposite sex, but that sword cuts both ways.

I'm surprised at you. You've been closed-minded in religious debates before, but this is a social issue, one with very real consequences felt in the world today. For you to callously generalize an entire sub-sect of humanity (admittedly on zero evidence, personal or otherwise) seems not only in bad form but in bad taste.

Side: no
10 points

The majority of them are sexual preditors.

False.

They have no contience they don't care about age (the younger the better)

False.

You are mistaking pedophilia for homosexuality.

The two terms are not synonymous.

And if you think they are synonymous, you are a fool.

Side: no
mb66(26) Disputed
1 point

Ok ok you're right, you're right. They're not synonymous. But I know women who call themselves middle age lesbians who would much prefer a teenage girl rather than someone their own age. Or a man in his 20's who is queer wh!o molested an 8 year old, because they're too weak to control their emotions. There is more than just those two. Besides... two whole cities were once destroyed because they were overrun with queers

Side: yes
chatturgha(1631) Disputed
3 points

And, there aren't straight people who behave the same way? Why are you not upset over those people? If the crime is the lust for people younger then themselves, then you're talking about pedophilia, which is not exclusive to homosexuality. In fact, it's probably much more prevalent among heterosexuals.

Besides... two whole cities were once destroyed because they were overrun with queers

Sodom and Gamorrah wasn't about homosexuality, it was about hospitality.

The cities were not destroyed because God was angry specifically with the sodomy, they were destroyed because God was angry with the apathy and hostility from the denizens of the cities against the visitors to the cities.

You can literally ask Catholic Cardinals and countless Biblical scholars, and they will confirm this interpretation as being correct.

Side: no
1 point

""But I know women who call themselves middle age lesbians who would much prefer a teenage girl rather than someone their own age. ""

A lot of straight guys look for younger women too.

"Or a man in his 20's who is queer wh!o molested an 8 year old, because they're too weak to control their emotions"

Pediphilifia and homosexuality are not the same thing. It is an unfortunate fact of life girls are just as at risk as boys for being targeted by a pediphile.

Side: no
5 points

This whole debate is bullshit not all homosexuals are sexual predators and neither are they abominations only an idiot would believe such nonsense.

Side: no
4 points

OMG!!! Just how many accounts do you have? Unbelievable!

As for homosexuality... here's a tip, if you aren't into it, don't do it.

Side: no
mb66(26) Disputed
1 point

Why is it any of your business how many accounts I have and how in hell did you find them?

Side: yes
Hellno(17753) Disputed
2 points

I make it a point to make everything my business.

Side: no
3 points

Some people are gay – deal with it. Whenever I come across homophobia a little of the small amount of faith I have left in humanity dies. Why should you care what two consenting adults get up to in the privacy of their own bedroom?

With regards to the common homophobic argument:

“The purpose of sex is to reproduce”

Does this mean you do not accept the use of contraception? That you believe that those who are infertile must remain virginal and that you must only have sex with the prospective mother/father of your child? Of course reproduction is one possible purpose of sex, but it is by no means the only possible purpose. Sexual oppression (deprivation of sexual pleasure) is a cause of later sexual deviancy and mental instability – just ask Freud.

Furthermore, who has decided that the purpose of sex is reproduction? You cannot argue that it is nature’s purpose, because nature has also made sex pleasurable – there is no reason to assume that nature does not also promote sex on the basis that it is psychologically beneficiary. As for God’s purpose – why should we accept God if he is willing to damn perfectly good people to Hell on the basis of their sexual orientation? This isn’t a God I am remotely interested in worshipping, and quite frankly I will actively disobey and despise him. Finally – we have no reason as human beings to impose a purpose on sex; why should we limit sex to an act of simple reproduction? No one is forcing you to have sex for pleasure, but let other people have sex without troubling them - whether heterosexual or homosexual.

Side: no
Blah123(43) Disputed
0 points

I don't care what homosexuals do in private. It's when they openly display their affection in public, that is what bothers me.

Side: yes
zephyr20x6(2387) Disputed
1 point

I don't care what homosexuals do in private. It's when they openly display their affection in public, that is what bothers me.

I personally don't have a problem with PDA, but PDA isn't strictly a homosexual issue if an issue at all. By this statement you are either foolish enough to think that heterosexuals never display affection which would make you an idiot, OR you have a double standard on homosexuality believing that they have to hide their affection while homosexuals don't which only makes you a tool to irrational prejudices in society. So which are you? A tool or an idiot? irrational or foolish?

Side: no
1 point

Homosexuality is proven to boost education and lower crime rates in areas. Why don't you go look at the statistics and facts before making wild accusations.

Side: no
Hellno(17753) Disputed
2 points

Talking to yourself again?

Side: yes
Blah123(43) Disputed
2 points

Are you saying that the world would be a better place if everyone was a homosexual?

Side: yes
BenWalters(1513) Disputed
1 point

No, he's saying that there is likely to be higher education rates and lower levels of crime. I didn't know that the 'quality' of the world solely relies on these two aspects of society.

You're putting words in his mouth, and seem to be unable to understand the difference between blind and total support for something, and support for something. I'm pretty sure that you're intelligent enough to see the difference.

Side: no
1 point

no, but it would be if people had the right to choose who they marry without intervention from the goverment based on their gender.

Side: no
Jawkins20(140) Disputed
1 point

In addition to a domestic violence rate that is 20 times higher than among heterosexuals, these are some of the negative effects homosexuality has on society:

Higher rates of child molestation*

(Nearly 1/3 of the child abuse cases are homosexual in nature, and homosexuals are only 3% of the population.)

Daughters of lesbian "parents" are more likely to engage in risky sexual behavior and experience the consequences of that behavior.

In areas in which homosexual marriage has become accepted (The Netherlands and areas of Scandinavia, for example), the fundamental building block of society--the family--has fallen apart. In some of these areas as many as 80% of the children are born outside of a family.

Children of homosexual "parents" do the worst in 9 of 13 acedemic categories when compared with both married heterosexual couples and cohabitating couples.

Homosexual behavior is linked with higher rates of promiscuity, physical disease, mental illness, substance abuse, child sexual abuse and domestic violence--all things that impact society negatively. Don't try to say homosexual behavior doesn't hurt society--it is a major force that tears down society and harms children.

Side: yes
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
1 point

Where did you get your facts from re Child Molestation as I did a quick srarch and could'nt find any hard facts but one article did point out that if an adult male molests a male child this is classed as Homosexual Molestation which is not always accurate and does not always point to the sexuality of the offender. A few things I have read have said that Child Molesters quite often will assault either sex and are not sexually mature enough to be either Homosexual or Heterosexual and the more recent cases I have read have been about adult Males molesting underage females eg: Gary Glitter, Jimi Savile and Ted Nugent. Whilst Ted Nugent has'nt been convicted of anything his involvement with Romney has bought some rather distateful things to light about him and underage girls.

I'd also like some links about the physical health og Homosexuals being worse.

I have read that self harm, suicide and substance abuse is worse in homosexuals than heterosexuals but have you ever considered that thats because homosexuals are bullied more, a bit more understanding and acceptance could go a long way to fixing that problem.

Side: no
1 point

I am totally disagree with the statement,as i think when you are not feel comfortable with the partner of the opposite sex,why should you go against yourself and be with someone you do not life and feel only disgust??Why that people should tournment themselves and their partners by pretending and hiding all the time what they really feel,thinking only about society's opinion.I think think it's ther choice,and we have no right to somehow accuse them,as it is their nature that we are not able to change!

Side: no
1 point

If homosexuality is sin resulting from corrupt Human nature according to religion, explain the observance of homosexuality in the behaviors of animals in the wild.

Evolutionary wise, it is understandable why it is "disgusting" because as a specie as a whole, it is genetically wired into us to dislike anything that prevents potential offspring such as homosexuality. Does it make it wrong? If homosexuality is an abomination, would you find people that are unable to reproduce "abominable"?

It is completely natural, it happens in the wild, and no, it is not abominable, it is only logical that mutation in the genes will eventually result in birth of homosexuals.

Side: no

they can be whoever they want to be. you dont have the right to tell them not to be something they r not! thats like the holocaust all over again. have you people really come to that again. racism over someone cuz u dont like that?! then ignore them. but just shut the hell up about it.

Side: no
mb66(26) Disputed
0 points

Hey, gleek pay attention. I don't recall ever saying "they can't be whoever they want " . I said IT is an abomination. That is my opinion. But if you want to be a faggot or lesbo that would be your choice. You can be anything you want to be, except me. Then you too would be an abomination. More power to you . Moron

Side: yes
jlrswimgleek(11) Clarified
1 point

im not any of those things. morons are retards. i happen to have a 4.0 average. im 13 and in 10th grade (skipped a grade) and its not an abomination. they love who they love so GET OVER IT! and ps im not gay, im not bi, im not homo. im straight but people have their own choices and if they choose this path, well thats their choice. dont tell them not to be somebody they r not. ps, a faggot is a bundle of sticks. whos the moron now?!

Side: yes
1 point

It is there choice and it does keep population down but I do not support it, just creepy.

Side: no
1 point

Can you prove your claims? o.O

Side: no

Homosexuals are the same as everyone else. Also, the world is a much better place with homosexuals in it.

Side: no