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Debate Score:193
Arguments:106
Total Votes:267
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Is homosexuality wrong?

yes

Side Score: 62
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no

Side Score: 131
2 points

no problems with gays, just dont want to become one.. no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

Side: yes
salmani(30) Disputed
0 points

stop lying mr dont want to become one no problem ahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

Side: no
1 point

yes its filthy what from bum to mouth stink breath ahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Side: yes
1 point

Yes, it is wrong. Homosexuality is basically a disease or a disorder.

Humans gain NOTHING from it. It is utterly useless.

Toward the survival of the species it gives nothing, in fact it promotes extinction through not having children. As should be very well known two of the same sex cannot have children. And don't bring adoption into the equation, that is not the same as having your own, by blood, children.

If with animals it were like it is with humans then animal gays would die out because they would not have their own, by blood, offspring. And don't come here saying there are gay animals, because they would hump even a chair, or a pillow, even other species of animals if they were in the mood, I mean it literally. You don't believe me? Go check out youtube, I'm sure there are some examples, unless it is against "rules" to upload something like that.

We, as being capable or we should at least, MUST control and guide ourselves the right direction and being gay is NOT right.

You can argue as much as you want, I'll always be right in this.

Side: yes
BenWalters(1513) Disputed
3 points

Yes, it is wrong. Homosexuality is basically a disease or a disorder.

Do you know what a disease is? A disease is an abnormal condition affecting the body of an organism. 10% of the human population is gay, and homosexuality is found in abundance in nature: that seems quite normal to me.

Humans gain NOTHING from it. It is utterly useless.

Humans do not live in a state of existential threat. We have moved past the stage where we need to worry about the survival of our species, and onto a time where we can consider the bettering of our standard of living. I mean, the simple fact that we are both on computers, debating the finer points of existence, is proof of that. Or do you only ever do things that are essential to your survival?

Toward the survival of the species it gives nothing, in fact it promotes extinction through not having children. As should be very well known two of the same sex cannot have children.

So all those who are infertile should be culled? The elderly? Those who don't have kids should be killed, those that don't want to have sex, those that don't want children? Nuns? Your double standard is extraordinarily terrible.

If with animals it were like it is with humans then animal gays would die out because they would not have their own, by blood, offspring.

This is called a strawman argument: you misrepresent the argument you're attacking, in order to make it easier to attack. Homosexuality not being wrong does not mean that everyone in the world will be homosexual, it simply means that it will not be wrong. And animal gays die out just in the same way that animal 'straights' die out: we all die, yet the species lives on.

And don't come here saying there are gay animals, because they would hump even a chair, or a pillow, even other species of animals if they were in the mood, I mean it literally.

There are gay animals. There are also animals that hump chairs or pillows. There are also straight animals.

There are gay humans. There are also humans that hump chairs or pillows. There are also straight humans.

Your comparison proves nothing but your own ignorance.

We, as being capable or we should at least, MUST control and guide ourselves the right direction and being gay is NOT right.

Do you mean we need a government who can rule over us with an iron first and misguided morals? Yeah, that's always worked great in the past.

You can argue as much as you want, I'll always be right in this.

The true hallmark of ignorance: a flat out denial of any viewpoint other than your own. Congratulations, only took you three arguments!

Side: no
nummi(1432) Disputed
1 point

Do you know what a disease is?

You know, there was another word also...

We have moved past the stage where we need to worry about the survival of our species.

No, we haven't. Examples: a massive meteor, a massive solar storm scorching the earth, a massive volcanic eruption, a very aggressive and lethal virus that cannot be fought fast enough. I'll leave the possible alien-related threats out this time. Those threats are and always will be. If you deny those possibilities then you are in denial and downright ignorant.

Onto a time where we can consider the bettering of our standard of living.

Aren't scientists right this very moment working toward avoiding extinctive disasters? And at the same time there is the bettering of our standard of living. Allowing gayness is not bettering the standard, it is lowering it.

What you essentially are saying is that we should not worry about our own survival. Can you even see what is wrong with that statement?

So all those who are infertile should be culled?

You do understand that this "debate" is about homosexuality only? Stick to the topic at hand and do not sway! It seems all you see are either killing them or leaving them alive. I'll educate you a bit - there are more options.

There are also humans that hump chairs or pillows.

If you think humping a table, wall, or whatever else is so normal then go ahead and do it. The fact that some animals and some humans do it does not make it right or normal. Same goes about being gay.

Do you mean we need a government who can rule over us with an iron first and misguided morals?

You mean iron fist, right?

Governments? Who said anything about governments?? Most governments are led by greedy bastard who only care about money and power.

I was talking about people themselves being smart enough. Which unfortunately is not reality.

The true hallmark of ignorance: a flat out denial of any viewpoint other than your own.

I can see that clearly. You have denied everything I said and you won't even try to consider my points and whether they are right.

I do consider viewpoints of others, if they are logical, reasonable, and if they make sense - something yours are and do not.

Congratulations, you're still an idiot!

Side: yes
Cuaroc(8823) Disputed
2 points

Humans gain NOTHING from it. It is utterly useless.

humans also gain nothing from rings, bracelets etc.

Side: no
nummi(1432) Disputed
2 points

humans also gain nothing from t.v, computer etc.

Did you even think before writing it?

From tv we get news, then there are movies and series, for entertainment, for lowering stress somewhat, after a workday. But of course, sitting in front of it all day long is bad. Although computers and tv are slowly becoming one.

Computer? Um, are you stupid? Considering you said we gain nothing from computer, you are, if not refer to my first sentence. Computers are used for the advancement of science, for one. Then there is news, all kinds of entertainment. Also used for work. Forecasting weather. The list goes on and on.

Name one positive thing humanity gains from homosexuality.

Side: yes
1 point

Humans gain NOTHING from it. It is utterly useless.

Right, because we legislate against things based on their usefulness to humanity, which is why baseball has been recently banned.

Toward the survival of the species it gives nothing, in fact it promotes extinction through not having children. As should be very well known two of the same sex cannot have children. And don't bring adoption into the equation, that is not the same as having your own, by blood, children.

Yes, because our orphanages are practically empty and the way to solve our problems of famine, overpopulation, and low natural resources is with more children.

If with animals it were like it is with humans then animal gays would die out because they would not have their own, by blood, offspring.

Of course, because straight parents only have straight children, and gay parents only raise gay kids.

And don't come here saying there are gay animals, because they would hump even a chair, or a pillow, even other species of animals if they were in the mood, I mean it literally.

Naturally, because human beings never interact in a sexual manner with inanimate objects or fantasize about/pursue sexual relations outside our species. And it's not like being "in the mood" for something excuses going and doing it; human beings never act on their whims, preferences, and urges.

We, as being capable or we should at least, MUST control and guide ourselves the right direction and being gay is NOT right.

Absolutely, because it is not only our passion but our duty to impose our narrow and closed minded opinions on others. That is, unless we don't have a closed mind...

You can argue as much as you want, I'll always be right in this.

Oh, wait, never mind, we definitely do.

Side: no
nummi(1432) Disputed
1 point

Everything you said was utterly pointless. You wrote it just to argue or just to say something because what you read made you a little angry? Human beings never act on their whims? Really? What about rage murders? Child-abusers? A guy getting angry and beating up his best friend because that one slept with his girl?

Impose our narrow minded and closed minded opinions on others? You absolutely know nothing what you are talking about. My mind is VERY open. I have considered gay being useful, but honestly, what is there to consider? Nothing. Either way, came up with nothing. Want to know why? because it is POINTLESS.

So you want to fill our orphanages? How will you do that? By killing the children's parents? Are you crazy?

You solve overpopulation with more children? How is that supposed to work?

I ask you, in what way is being gay good for humanity? Is cancer good for humanity? Or any genetic disease?

Side: yes
1 point

The bible states all homos will not enter heaven. I really don't see why homos choose to be homos. its disgusting

Side: yes
1 point

Yes it is so wrong! I don’t accept gays.

People are people: they breathe, they cry, they go through emotions. They make choices. It’s not like me to tell people how to live.

However, there’s always a bad side on something. Homosexuality has a lot of bad sides. There is no good side.

It’s not only religion why I don’t accept gay or trans, but it’s also non-Christian reasons. There are mental disorders and chronic and even deadly diseases!

Therefore, I don’t accept gays.

Side: yes
1 point

what adults do in their own bedrooms is their business. But nobody can tell me that it is a natural thing for a male to insert his penis up another males rectum. A rectum is not a vagina. it is a one way valve and is not designed for two way traffic. Men inserting penis's up other males rectums just causes a lot of damage that Proctologists have to fix. And if it is unnatural for males to engage in homosexual behaviour, the it must be unnatural for females to do it too. After all, we can't be sexist and judge two sexes by two different standards. My opinion is that homosexual behaviour is a genetic defect.

Side: yes
1 point

what adults do in their own bedrooms is their business. But nobody can tell me that it is a natural thing for a male to insert his penis up another males rectum. A rectum is not a vagina. it is a one way valve and is not designed for two way traffic. Men inserting penis's up other males rectums just causes a lot of damage that Proctologists have to fix. And if it is unnatural for males to engage in homosexual behaviour, the it must be unnatural for females to do it too. After all, we can't be sexist and judge two sexes by two different standards. My opinion is that homosexual behaviour is a genetic defect.

Side: yes
1 point

Although humans should not be treated badly, I believe that homosexuality is wrong.

I understand that they are humans, but they say they were BORN THAT WAY, when they weren’t.

Side: yes
0 points

Ah, I don't think we have any fundamentalist Christians on at the moment. Devil's advocate time?

GOD HATES FAGS! GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!

... Or something like that.

Side: yes
msr4604(2) Disputed
2 points

There is nothing wrong with being gay, bisexual, or transgendered. I can't sit and here judge you for something that I don't understand myself. If it makes you happy and that's how you feel your meant to be, who am I to stop you. I remember being around 9 years old, and I had a friend whose Mother is a lesiban. I asked him if he could do something, and he said he had to ask his "Moms". I corrected him by saying "Mom", but no he said I have two Moms. After getting to know his family, I learned his Moms had one of the strongest relationships I've ever seen, they truly loved eachother. Their marriage was more stable than my own Mothers who was married to a man. If God created us, wouldn't he want us to be happy and enjoy the life he gave us?

Side: no
ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
0 points

No. God hates fags.

GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!GOD HATES FAGS!

There's this wonderful thing called devil's advocate, you should look it up.

Side: yes
mikemikemike(3) Disputed
2 points

well i thought god loved all. hmm at least that's what the Bible tells me, and a true honest loving christian saying that god hates anyone that is shameful sir, i would ask you to grow up and get a handle on your temper. and you must not know what you are talking about if you must repeat you self over and over to convince your self that what your saying is true god hates no man woman or child he may wish that they would act differently but never does he hate.

Side: no
rmcgrath(131) Clarified
2 points

God does not hate the person but his hates the sin. thats why its an abomination.

Side: yes
1 point

Five bucks says that the dumb shit that made this debate is a Republican...

Side: yes
0 points

hey freewill it said in the bible that god lets use live free so he can find out who is his real disciples and if you lose your head like that youll never win a debate!!!!!!!!! reeree

Side: yes
0 points

Yes, homosexuality is wrong. It's an insult to the bible about creating the man and woman.

Side: yes
marcos(74) Disputed
1 point

The bible is just a make believe book. They expect you to do what you're told regardless of what's wrong or right. I believe in doing the right thing regardless of what I'm told. That is not true with religion. Homosexuals are people too, they share the same feelings, beliefs, dreams, and ideals. But religion is one of the causes of separation in the world that stops us from ever coming together.

Side: no
Thebluemoo(66) Disputed
0 points

Homosexuality is NOT wrong in any way. How is it wrong to like someone of the same gender, because your book says it's not right? Yeah, well the bible also says it's okay to sell your children and that it's okay to have slaves. Is that okay? So, in this case, it's okay to sell your children and own as many slaves as you want, but being gay is bad? What about the priests who have been caught molesting young boys, that sounds like a homosexual act to me. Stop being such a hypocritical bastard, let people be the way they want to be, not by what your book says.

Side: no
-1 points

any man (meaning both male and female) that lie with a with the same gender is an abomination.

Side: yes
Apollo(1608) Disputed
7 points

any man (meaning both male and female) that lie with a with the same gender is an abomination.

You're an abomination...

Side: no
ricedaragh(2494) Disputed
1 point

By what standard? In my humble opinion any man that tries to restrict a person's civil liberties is an abomination.

Side: no
BenWalters(1513) Disputed
1 point

Don't tell me what to do.

Side: yes
0 points

Your opinion is incredibly, extremely, immensely, gargantuanly, astutely, impeccably, immensely humble, good sir.

Side: no
0 points

(meaning both male and female)

I never really looked at it like that. If you take the verse literally, as people so often do with the Bible, does that mean that God thinks gay men but not gay women are an abomination? More evidence god is manmade.

Side: no
1 point

And there is also a verse almost next to it that says we should kill children if they swear to their parents.

If the world had taken it literally, dead bodies of children would clog up the streets...

Side: no
-1 points

well two guys goin at it makes me wanna puke. two girls is a different story...

Side: yes
salmani(30) Disputed
0 points

what if its your mum and nan thats two girls you westeners crack me up

Side: no
mj123 Disputed
1 point

are you cranking up, someone better put you in a mental hospital,.

Side: yes
-1 points

i am a christian...christians dont like homos because God didnt create you to love the same sex as you, if you READ the BIBLE and UNDERSTAND you will understand, because, God said to 'MULTIPLY' which means have kids, can a homo do it? NO. And yes its their life, they can choose what they want to be or who they are! But everything you do has a bad side, its not my fault people pick on you because your a homo, its your fault and stop crying your ass off because no one wants to see it and is it normal to love your own sex? NO. Your life your problems.

Side: yes
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
4 points

i am a christian

Really, you could have just stopped there ><

Side: no
1 point

well done , its great to hear someone speak there mind about the gay people of this world. im fed up with having it rammed down my throat that i have to accept the homosexuality as a normal way of life, its just not normal. they want you to believe its ok, so they feel safe,. adam and eve started people, vagina and penis people. baby making people,. go back into the closet, you should never have took the trouble of coming out. i will not accept it as normal, it goes against any beliefs. lot of gays men forced, parade their sexuality in our face.why do they feel so proud. of being gay. it makes you feel sick. there is more people out there fedup with this as well. no im not to be brainwashed into thinking your a bunch of normal folk. somethings gone wrong with you somewhere to want to do the dirty things you do to the same sex. yuk. years and years ago, there were not many around. whats happening with this world we live in ,were told to embrass them.

Side: yes
3 points

im fed up with having it rammed down my throat

I think i found the underlying cause of your homophobia. Haha

No but seriously homosexuals will ram their junk down your throat as much as they feel is necessary so long as you and people like you use your beliefs to condemn their persuasion. And to successfully repress it.

And your being grossed out by anal and oral sex (as opposed to "normal" sex) seems like a personal problem, and a problem not exclusive to gays. Do you refuse to accept the large number of heterosexuals that engage in one of the aforementioned activities because they are abnormal?

Personally and based on what I've seen and read, it seems like homosexuality is a choice sometimes and a predisposition other times. Arguably a creature that has a faulty mating instinct might be considered to have some sort of mental problem, but like many disorders it's victimless. Telling someone they're dysfunctional and sick makes them a victim, where you could just let them enjoy their life.

God to college and you'll see plenty of very vulgar hetero pride parades.

And 2000 years down the road can we curb the damn "be fruitful and multiply" mentality? Our planet is severely overpopulated and we're burning through our resources far too fast. Knowing that so many people (and more every day) are in relationships and lifestyles where they cant have kids and can only adopt kids who don't have parents is actually a great comfort to me. Like the gays are saying: 'not only are we not going to contribute to the problem, we're going to be part of the solution.'

Side: no
0 points

God did not make gay people, he made adam and eve, man and woman. the gay people decide to experiment with man and man, etc. god had no part in this one.

Side: yes
-1 points

It says clearly in the books of the bible that being gay is wrong, also if you are thinking in biology terms, animals are supposed to mate (male to female) in order to reproduce and support the continuation of the species. also its nasty (just saying). However, hating them endlessly for it, like for example, saying "God hates fags" is a bit extreme in my mind. This is obviously a mental problem (like any other) and needs to be dealt with in a calm civilized manner

Side: yes
mikemikemike(3) Disputed
1 point

i am just curious i do go to church and am a christian yet i have yet to see it in the bible that gay is wrong yes i can agree that biologically speaking it wont work but i have never seen gay is wrong in the bible. but you should check this link out an think a little bit. http://www.gaychristian101.com/does-the-bible-say-homosexuals-will-go-to-hell.html

Side: no
-1 points

I believe it is bad for our society. I am not against of homo couples, but generally it is wrong. It is not natural. We cannot say it is good, right. We cannot promote this kind of orientation. What would be with our society if everyone start considering homosexuality is normal, and there is nothing wrong with this? Society will degrade, lose moral values and parents will raise children with unhealthy views. However we cannot judge single sex couples because of their orientation, they have right to live whatever kind of life they want to.

Side: yes
Cuaroc(8823) Disputed
1 point

Well houses are not natural clothes are not natural paper is not natural their are lots of things that are not natural yet we still accept them.

Side: no
1 point

Cuaroc(108), I support you in this. As a meta ethical philosopher, One always has free will, by which it means that he is of his own choices and judgment, if a particular person has chosen such path, whatever it may be, none of the others should and shall judge it for the act is personal, none of the others would be affected by a personal act. Say that for example one thinks that eating chocolates are bad for it is somehow derived from pigs, doesn't prove that you will contradict others who eat them or in other words what your beliefs are, are yours for the keeping, if you do not like one thing, do not pursue it to others to dislike and contradict it the same way you do, and of course the same applies to religion.

Side: no
atienza(43) Disputed
1 point

My short rebuttal for your view is posted as a support for one of my ally that disputed you.

Side: no
0 points

If you are not against it, how can you say its not natural? People cannot help the way they feel about others. You are saying that it is not natural for people to do what they feel to do naturally. Homosexuality can be normal, there is absolutely no moral values that will be lost by these views, and I can see no way how these views are 'unhealthy.'

Side: no
0 points

it is natural enough to be genetic. although you can change you sexual orientation, most people who are gay were born gay but some changed although that makes no difference in the fact being homosexuality is not unnatural

Side: no
Tim17(103) Disputed
1 point

You cant be born gay you stupid ignorant fool. read your bible

Side: yes
5 points

I loveth me a girl, and I loveth me a boy.... I am pretty sure, God doesn't hate anybody.

Side: no
4 points

Homosexuality is now wrong. It is never wrong to have feelings for anyone. Homosexuality is as common in nature as the grass on the ground.

Side: no
4 points

you ever heard of this word?

ITS FUCKING FREEWILL YOU BASTARDS BESIDES WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE JUST FOR DOING WHAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH

AND IF YOUR SO-CALLED "GOD" HATES "FAGS" THEN WHY THE HELL DID HE LET THIS HAPPEN

THINK ABOUT IT YOU IGNORANT FUCKTARDS

Side: no
salmani(30) Disputed
2 points

wow colourful words freewill aye you like homos thats ur freewill well mine is to hate gays am i allowed to or dont i have a choice think about it you nice guy

Side: yes
11PuttPutt(3) Disputed
1 point

You know one day people will look back at what everyone did to gays, like hating them or not letting them marry. Women have gotten rights, blacks have gotten right, it's about time gays do too. Every wrong is eventually righted and all people were created equal.

Side: no
mj123 Disputed
-3 points
2 points

God let the devil happen knowing what the devil would do. And seeing as how humanity is a little outmatched by Satan, it's kind of up to god to stop it, that is if he wants to. So yes, god let it happen.

Side: no
4 points

A person is a person, regardless of gender. It is just ridiculous to ridicule someone for loving someone of the same gender. Love is love, no matter who it is between.

Side: no
3 points

of course not… loving someone is never wrong. i've never been able to understand why some people are homophobic.

Side: no
3 points

how is someones right to choose weather they date women or men wrong ? if someone is gay no one has the right to tell them they can't be gay because their is nothing wrong with it, if a person does not like the fact that someone is gay they don't exactly have to go near then do they ? gay people are just like straight people except from the fact that they prefer to fall in love with their own sex rather then the opposite sex. i am a straight man but i have no problem with gay people because i know that it is their own choice to be gay and its nothing to do with me, if a person hates a gay person that much then why can't they just leave them alone instead of acting like a idiot.

Side: no
3 points

For those who may have made a "yes" comment claiming that homosexuality is wrong because it says so in the bible, have you ever thought someone is attractive? I ask because the bible also says that to look upon someone with an approving eye is wrong.

Side: no
Tim17(103) Disputed
1 point

the bible also says God made man for woman and woman for man

Side: yes

The idea that someone is wrong due to their sexual orientation is similar to saying someone is wrong due to their race. Our first amendment right allows people to admit that they are homosexual, and also we are all created equal. Someone being homosexual makes them no different from someone who is not.

Side: no
3 points

i do not believe a individuals sexual or emotion opinion is wrong.

Side: no
2 points

if god hated gays then why did he make them so cute??? (:

Side: no
2 points

From the American Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This statement asserts some of the fundamental principals on which the United States government was founded, and I can think of no legitimate reason any civilized person should disagree with it.

That said, if two (or more) individuals are in a homosexual relationship which brings happiness to all involved while harming no one, nor violating anyone's rights in the process... I fail to see where the problem is.

Maybe people just find it gross? Obscene? Distasteful? Offensive? Well... that's nice, but it's just an opinion. I mean, I find rap music to generally be all of the above lol. Doesn't mean I think it is "wrong" in a sense that it should be banned or censored though. I'm sure there are plenty of other things to be more offended by and upset about these days than people's sex lives.

Side: no
2 points

I dont think so because, you cant tell or force to like someone or something that dont believe or like, and god loves everyone, because no one is perfect, i think that was the reason we were made to make mistake and to fix them, and go wont turn his head just because you do something he does like, just as long as you believes in him, god loves every single one of us.

Side: no

You define to me what wrong is and maybe I'll agree with you homophobic wizards.

Seeing as everyone's opinion of wrong is different nothing can be truly wrong, therefore disproving that homosexuality is, as you call it, "wrong."

Side: no

So... the Pope says that being gay is against the bible...Says the 70 year old, single, man... wearing a cape.

Side: no
1 point

it's not wrong, only disgusting and unnatural. I respect them though (I would rather stay neutral if possible)

Side: no
1 point

"Well, I say that homosexuality is not just a form of sex, it is a form of love, and it deserves our respect for that reason."

-Christopher Hitchens

That is all

Side: no
1 point

I say its ok. Its all a matter of presective.

You think that that jar is half full, i half empty.

You like COD i like Halo.

Some prefer paintball some prefer airsoft.

Some like women other like men.

I see no problem in likeing the same sex.

Side: no

No. Homosexuality is normal just as heterosexuality is normal.

Side: no

Like my grandfather said: it's not wrong if you pray afterwards.

Side: no