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dangerous missunderstood
Debate Score:67
Arguments:45
Total Votes:78
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is islam dangerous or missunderstood?

this is someting we all need to thinkabout in todays world can we really trust the muslems to live like moddern civilised men and women in the wake of 911 and the fort hood shooting among other acts of terror perpitrated by muslem extremisits it is importent to descuse these things

 

 

 

 

this debat focuses on islam pleas leave other religions out of it thank you

dangerous

Side Score: 31
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missunderstood

Side Score: 36
3 points

Islam, along with Buddhism, Christianity, and Greek Mythology are absolutely dangerous if genuinely believed. It's a threat to logic, the life of people, and the prosperity of a nation.

Religion is horrific.

Side: dangerous
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

I am a Christian and I don't consider Christianity to be dangerous, its actually good. Many people including you miss understand it as dangerous.

Side: missunderstood
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
3 points

You might think so but if you look back at history you will find that many bad things have been done in the name of Christianity which makes it dangerous in the wrong hands

Side: dangerous
casper3912(1581) Disputed
0 points

Thats not an argument .

Side: dangerous
1 point

Islam is dangerous because if you fail to obey the way of Allah they are commanded to kill you where you stand. (Quran, Sura 4:89)

Side: dangerous
2 points

Gahhh my head hurts.

Knowing full well (and I know because I've seen dozens of people list them out for you) how many atrocious verses are contained in your own Bible, knowing full well how you weasel out of an honest answer every single time, and knowing full well the horrendous acts carried out and still being carried out in the name of your God and your religion, how can you say this and also say, "I am a Christian and I don't consider Christianity to be dangerous, its actually good. Many people including you miss understand it as dangerous"? You don't think being on the inside of the mind-virus cult you've subscribed to might've tainted your objective opinion on the matter, just a little bit?

Even when I was Christian I had the sense to ask, "Huh, wouldn't these "truths" make equal sense if we substitutes "God" for "Allah" and "Jesus" for "Muhammad? Don't Muslims believe everything they believe just as wholeheartedly as we do, and don't they have an equal amount of evidence (none)?" This is a bit of self query you seem to be missing.

Side: missunderstood
ChadOnSunday(1863) Clarified
3 points

And a note to warrior, please don't ban me for this; I'm addressing some stupidity and I tried to tie it back to Islam as often as possible. If you're banning people for not talking about Islam, ban Srom who posted exclusively about Christianity, stroking his metaphorical cock all the while.

Side: dangerous
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

Knowing full well (and I know because I've seen dozens of people list them out for you) how many atrocious verses are contained in your own Bible, knowing full well how you weasel out of an honest answer every single time, and knowing full well the horrendous acts carried out and still being carried out in the name of your God and your religion, how can you say this and also say, "I am a Christian and I don't consider Christianity to be dangerous, its actually good. Many people including you miss understand it as dangerous"? You don't think being on the inside of the mind-virus cult you've subscribed to might've tainted your objective opinion on the matter, just a little bit?

Yes many verses in the Bible say in the Old Testament to kill your children if they curse there parents, to kill men who lie with other men and female who lie with other females , to stone children if they don't obey their parents, and to kill people who have sexual intercourse with a animal.

You have to ask yourself why did God make those laws in the first place? God made those laws because all of those things I just stated is unnatural.

God doesn't want men and men to lie with each other. He wants male and female to do that because it is natural. You can't reproduce when its male and male it would cause diseases.

It was also unnatural for kids to curse their parents because they are suppose to honor and obey their parents and I am sure that many children did obey their parents and actually saw what happened when they did curse their parents.

Its unnatural for humans to have sexual intercourse with an animal because you don't know what kind of diseases the animals could carry. Also you could get your penis or vagina infected with diseases also.

Even when I was Christian I had the sense to ask, "Huh, wouldn't these "truths" make equal sense if we substitutes "God" for "Allah" and "Jesus" for "Muhammad? Don't Muslims believe everything they believe just as wholeheartedly as we do, and don't they have an equal amount of evidence (none)?" This is a bit of self query you seem to be missing.

I have studied Islam and I would say that it is different from Christianity in huge points. Allah is really a moon god.

Side: dangerous
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed
1 point

Just like if you dont belive in Jesus you will be sent to hell.

Side: missunderstood
1 point

I'm not an expert on this subject.

But I've heard horrible stories about Islam, where they've stoned women who got pregnant before marriage to death (And the worst of all was, that the woman was raped)

But if you think of it, all other religions are just as dangerous too.

I mean Christians have done a lot of horrible things over the years. They killed homosexuals, black people and women who were sleeping around.

So my opinion is, that no matter what you believe, your religion has a history. And not all stories have a happy ending.

And there are plenty of Christian people alive today, who think God wants us to kill homosexuals and black people and who knows who else.

I haven't read it myself, but I think the bible mentions somewhere to kill a man who sleeps with a man.

And the bible says that humans are made in the picture of God, and some people think that black people are not made in the picture of God.

Not to mention Jehovah's Witnesses, they shut their children out of their lives if they don't behave. Even tho they haven't had their 18th birthday. They just kick them out, and never ever speak to them again. Crazy.

So I really don't see the difference, other than those stories about Islam are more often in the media

Side: dangerous
1 point

Yes we are dangerous, be afraid of us, because we will conquer you and the whole world!!

Side: dangerous
warrior(1854) Disputed
1 point

HA good luck you cant even beat us on your home turf only blow yourselves up or take pot shots at us then run and hide like a bunch of bitches

Side: dangerous

Watch the video I link and tell me that Islam is a force for good. These people are doing exactly what their holy book says. Know what their crime was? Having sex outside marriage. Absolute bastards.

Supporting Evidence: Leaked footage of Afghan stoning. (www.liveleak.com)
Side: dangerous

First, I need to know who Miss Understood is?

Side: dangerous

Only dangerous through Sharia Law that calls for the execution of homosexuals.

Side: dangerous
1 point

Islam is a religion. So it's belief in mystical magic mumbo jumbo. And it threatens people with hell and gives them specific orders.

So yes, it's dangerous.

Christianity does all that, too.

Side: dangerous
0 points

Of course it is dangerous, look at how many are adhering to it and shutting out reality.

Side: dangerous
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
1 point

That argument could be used to argue that all religions are dangerous

Side: missunderstood
anachronist(889) Disputed
1 point

Yep, you're definitely right there. :L

Side: dangerous
1 point

Yes it could .

Side: missunderstood
-1 points

Dangerous. I say dangerous because I think just about every religion has great potential to be dangerous when utilized by dickheads. I also think the followers of most religions would like to think that the critics of their religion just have them misunderstood, when in reality critics usually hit the nail on the head more surely than the followers do.

This does not mean that I think that everyone who subscribes to Islam (all Muslims) are dangerous. The presence of violent commandments or verses in any dogma or religion is a given; it's the predisposition of people who would use religion for violent or selfish ends that worries me, because I know that they will find support for their beliefs in religion as surely as a peaceful follower will.

That being said, I think that of the three desert dogmas, Islam is most widely practiced in an area currently known for it's barbarism and violence, and thus Islam is more utilized as a tool by violent barbarians than, say, Christianity. This, too, is not Islams fault; the Middle East had wealth and power disproportionately and suddenly come to a random collection of people when the value of oil became known, and this thrust a 3rd world set of countries into a position they weren't ready for, and capitalization of this by 1st world countries has only made it worse. Similar to the way that African tribes warring against one another with sticks and slings suddenly found themselves strapped with AK47s due to 1st world conflicts, and the violence escalated into genocide.

Still, you're more likely to find violence in Islam than in Christianity/Judaism because Islam is currently working it's way through the oppressive, Medieval-esque barbarism that Christianity and Judaism have had the chance to advance their way though already (because of their prevalence in the 1st world), except Islam isn't waging it's crusade with swords and chainmail, but guns, rockets, and tanks.

Side: dangerous
5 points

I agree with both comments on the other side.

but to give religion in general credit (I'm an atheist and rarely give religion credit)

it is the misunderstanding of various religions which make them dangerous.

My argument is that religion is too much power with no direction but whatever a strong-voiced and willed individual decides to sway these large masses of followers. Meanwhile the popular religions, Islam in the Middle East and Christianity in Western civilizations specifically, actually discourage things like learning and knowledge, which would be the only weapons these masses would have to avoid being swayed in a dangerous direction.

Which is exactly why the most religious groups are so often the most evil, from the asses blowing themselves up for allah, to the god hates fags idiots protesting at dead soldiers' funerals.

Side: missunderstood

it is the misunderstanding of various religions which make them dangerous.

This makes sense, but I feel there would need to be some objectively correct understanding of a given religion for this to be true. Unfortunately for believers, no god has ever graced us with his presence long enough to tell us how his given religion should be practiced, so instead we generally have the depraved "holy" writings of desert barbarians and the self-interested dogma of child-rapists and sadists to go on when deciding proper conduct for any religious individual. For obvious reasons, then, all interpretations of religion and religious ideas and texts are equally valid, because they rely on subjective opinion.

Side: missunderstood
2 points

Ah, very good.

So that they cannot be "understood" necessarily would mean "understanding" could not be the problem.

Actually though, that they cannot be understood does not mean that not understanding could not at the same time be the problem.

So then I'd say, their vague nature lends them to corruption. Whether a holy text should happen to be perfectly understood or completely misunderstood is inconsequential, because one could never know either way.

Side: missunderstood
3 points

Islam is a misunderstood religion, and I hate it when the people of our country make narrow-minded stereotypes and assumptions of them just because of the Islam fanatics out there. Obviously,not ALL Islamic people are like that. I know many kind and gracious people who practice Islam

Side: missunderstood
3 points

Of course it is misunderstood and it is very hard to debate any religion without including others, all religion can be dngerous when in the wrong hands and I know many followers of Islam who are very nice people and have helped me to better understand their beliefs. People need to understand and respect other peoples beliefs instead of just believing what the Newspapers and corrupt politicians tell them

Side: missunderstood
2 points

Any religion can be dangerous if somebody misinterprets it. Islam is an example of this. Christianity can be dangerous, too, because of people interpreting it to mean whatever they want (such as teaching theories without evidence, such as creationism, in schools. These religions are not bad when they are interpreted correctly, though. Islam is an intellectual and peaceful religion when interpreted one way, and leads to Jihads when interpreted another. The same is true for every religion.

Side: missunderstood
1 point

Islam, in its teachings, is a very pure and good religion, like Christianity. However, some Muslims turn to extremism to carry out what Islam tells them; on the other hand, these extremists distort the goodness of Islam. Don't say Islam is bad; say the extremists are bad!

Side: missunderstood
warrior(1854) Disputed
1 point

Ah but the militaristic language used in the quoran creates a militaristic environment for Muslims dose it not? so even if it isent viollent at its core it dose lend its self to abuse by extremists much easier than other religions

Side: dangerous
101kakashi(381) Disputed
1 point

on the contrary...you see, islam is a religion that brings people together, it is based on love and peace...true muslims do not disrespect other religions...they do not hate people..it is a misunderstood religion and it is such a shame that allot of terrorists who pretend to be muslims only tainted the reputation of such a beautiful religion. the Quoran does not contain militaristic language..i think maybe you misunderstood the whole concept of the quoran...perhaps you did not read it..maybe you did not understand it...

Side: missunderstood
1 point

My friends mom where she works, is this lady that also works with her who called her a terrorists, but she ignored them because she know's herself better than anybody!

Side: missunderstood