is religion violent
yes it is
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no its not
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It can be, and it certainly has in various times thru history. Islam and Christianity being the two worst of course. The Yahweh from the Old Testament was a notorious mass murderer. Conservative estimates place his death toll at about 30 million. How anybody who takes the OT literally can condone that is beyond me. Then again, anybody who can waste their live worshiping non-existent gods is beyond me as well. i'd worship Hitler before I would Yahweh. Find that last statement unsavory? Listen up and read this and you might see my point................ http://listverse.com/2008/04/02/ Side: yes it is
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Slapshot: I agree with most of what you said. Except I wouldn't worship Hitler under any circumstances. I wouldn't worship. Hitler "worshipped" the Christian "GOD", in his own way. A few quotes: "I believe my actions today are in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.".
"Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down upon my knees and thanked heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune to live at this time." Words from a devout Christian (he thought) .... and Mein Kampf. I see some on here that are just as "devout", because THEY say they are. Side: yes it is
It depends on the religion, but yes. Monotheistic religion in particular rejects the validity of any other religion or belief outside of their one God, and as soon as you do that, as soon as you declare much of the world is going to hell unless it joins you, then it opens the door for hate and intolerance and violence. The Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) all have rich histories of violence. Other kinds of religion, especially of Eastern origin, preach more that they're a way in and of themselves and not necessarily that they're exclusive. Side: yes it is
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It depends on the religion, but yes. Monotheistic religion in particular rejects the validity of any other religion or belief outside of their one God, and as soon as you do that, as soon as you declare much of the world is going to hell unless it joins you, then it opens the door for hate and intolerance and violence. The Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) all have rich histories of violence. Other kinds of religion, especially of Eastern origin, preach more that they're a way in and of themselves and not necessarily that they're exclusive. Multi-facet doctrine absolutely denies the acceptance of any other science or artistry outside of their one Philosophy, and as soon as you do that, as soon as you declare much of the world is going to hell unless it joins you. Side: no its not
Steven Weinberg said it well: " Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you'd have good people doing good things, bad people doing bad things, but, for good people to do bad things, that takes religion." Or Blaise Pascal, a Catholic philosopher and Physicist: "Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions." They were talking about the Abrahamic religions mostly. There ARE some peaceful religions, for which we all can be thankful. Side: yes it is
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There ARE some peaceful religions, for which we all can be thankful. I agree with you 100% for everything you said, except this part is not 100% agreeable. I am a Hindu. Hinduism is considered by most people to be a peaceful religion like Buddhism. Buddhism is, in a way, more peaceful. They do not fight with anyone, even if that group is hurting them. That type of peace is not something to be thankful for. There will always be bad people in the world. Being good could make it easy for people to take advantage of you. This does NOT mean you should be evil either. It just means that you should use your discriminatory intellect to decided when to fight and when to stay calm. Don't fight for money, power, or personal greed. Fight to protect something positive and necasarry. Hindus don't say "thou shall not kill" because if they did, then Hindus wouldn't have survived the Muslim raiders. Stand up and fight for your rights and your religion, but remember to only target those who have hurt you or your family. Don't kill infidels. Don't even think infidels are worse than you. We are all part of God. If the British declared war on all Indians, Gandhi wouldn't say put down your weapons and go on strike with me. He would fight. But he knew that the situation wasn't like that, and he used his intellect to choose to be non-violent. Side: yes it is
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I agree with you 100% for everything you said, except this part is not 100% agreeable. I am a Hindu. Hinduism is considered by most people to be a peaceful religion like Buddhism. Buddhism is, in a way, more peaceful. They do not fight with anyone, even if that group is hurting them. That type of peace is not something to be thankful for. There will always be bad people in the world. Being good could make it easy for people to take advantage of you. This does NOT mean you should be evil either. It just means that you should use your discriminatory intellect to decided when to fight and when to stay calm. Don't fight for money, power, or personal greed. Fight to protect something positive and necasarry. Hindus don't say "thou shall not kill" because if they did, then Hindus wouldn't have survived the Muslim raiders. Stand up and fight for your rights and your religion, but remember to only target those who have hurt you or your family. Don't kill infidels. Don't even think infidels are worse than you. We are all part of God. If the British started unrest with the Indians, Gandhi would refuse to tell them drop their equipment and take time off beside me. He would clash. But he deducted that the situation could work like that, and he used his verbal talent to choose to be inoffensive. Don't clash for prices, control, or heartfelt lust. Clash to preserve anything useful and adequate. Side: no its not
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Religion has been behind nearly all the wars this world has seen! it has been used as a tool to incite, motivate and justify people to fight and kill. Politics have been put in charge almost all the struggles this world has observed! It has been taken advantage of as a tool to instill, energy and correct people to fight and kill. Side: no its not
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'All religions are equally sublime to the ignorant, USEFUL for the politician and ridiculous to the philosopher." Lucretius ... about 50 years before Jesus. The more things change the more they stay the same. (Some) Politicians will ALWAYS use the religion as a tool. Elect one of those "Kill the Muslim guys", and find out! I want them to kill ISIL, NOT start a war so we can "Kill in the name of ... um ... the "only GOD". Side: yes it is
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This is very vague. There are several Religions that are violent, but there are others that are not violate at all but are peaceful. I cannot side with one side on this, but I will side with It is due to severity of violence some religions beings. i.e Nazi's, killed Millions upon millions of people. Islam is killing thousands of people. Although I agree there are non-violate religions, the severity of the violent ones out weight the non-violent ones. Side: yes it is
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This is very vague. There are several Religions that are violent, but there are others that are not violate at all but are peaceful. I cannot side with one side on this, but I will side with It is due to severity of violence some religions beings. i.e Nazi's, killed Millions upon millions of people. Islam is killing thousands of people. Although I agree there are non-violate religions, the severity of the violent ones out weight the non-violent ones. Islam is reducing thousands of humans. Although I agree there are friendly religions, the harshness of the impatient ones outfight the peaceful ones. Side: no its not
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It depends on which religion you look at. Some are truly all about peace. Speaking from the Christian perspective, yes it is. Christians have both sparked and been the target of wars. Christians conducted the brutal Inquisition. 99% of the time it's Christians rattling their sabers on sites like this one. And core to all Christian belief is a threat of gruesome suffering in hell if you don't follow orders. Side: yes it is
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surely, it is! the word "religion" in today's world has made everybody distinct. every person today wants to live with his own community and own group. he does not want to fit in others traditions and customs. well we can say it is habitual! but is it right to practice our own customs and traditions without thinking of others? just thinking of us and not others? we should demand everything we deserve but not on the risk of harming others.. and this is what happening today. people are so blind to follow there own religion that they even don't care that there might be some other people who will get hurt.is this what our religion teaches us?if is it so . then i am surely not a part of any.. we should be secular.. we should be sovereign.. we should do everything of our own good.. but not on the cost of hurting others dignity... Side: yes it is
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WHAT ABOUT THE ATHEIST .............. When Christopher Hitchens observes that .. “Religion is violent .. irrational .. intolerant .. allied to racism and tribalism and bigotry .. invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry .. contemptuous of women and coercive toward children" .. he is both right and wrong . . . . . Hitchens is right because humankind is sinful and selfish .. Indeed .. I believe it was G.K. Chesterton who said that the one Christian doctrine that was demonstrably provable .. even to casual observers .. was the sinfulness and depravity of man .. Thus .. human expressions of the religious impulse will inevitably produce some religious practices and beliefs that would fit Hitchens’ rather grim description . . . . Human history is replete with such flawed expressions of religious faith However . . this would be true of all secular philosophies and ideologies as well .. Three of the most heinous and barbaric ideologies .. which produced the greatest cruelties and violations of humanity in the 20th century .. were fascism .. Nazism and communism . . . . all secular Hitchens is wrong in that he condemns all religious expression to the category of such violent and negative expressions . . . Many of the noblest expressions of humanity throughout the centuries have been performed in the name of religion . . . One thinks of William Wilberforce and his long campaign to end the slave trade in the British Empire . . . Both the British and American abolitionist movements were founded .. nurtured .. financed and led to victory against the horrific evil of slavery by people who were most often inspired and motivated by deep religious conviction The great social reform movements of the last half of the 19th and the first half of the 20th century ( child labor reform .. etc ) were often led by people of deep religious faith .. Protestant and Catholic And of course .. in the lifetime of many of us who were born in the last half of the 20th century .. the most successful and greatest reform movement was the civil rights revolution .. led by a Baptist minister .. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr .. who often said that the movement and the faith that inspired it could not be separated . . . As many will remember .. the civil rights revolution was supported by and led to victory in large part because of the leadership of clergy .. black and white Lastly .. one is led to ask Mr. Hitchens some questions .. • Where are the great atheist-sponsored charitable and reform movements ? • Where are the atheist children homes and orphanages ? ( no .. the government will not count ) • Where are the atheist leaders who are taking vows of poverty and giving themselves in sacrificial service to others ? Side: no its not
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My assumption with your all caps post and stance that religion is violent only seems to indicate that you're under the assumption that atheism (or rather Secularism) isn't a religion. however it too classifies as religion. I wish there were options to post dissenting opinions, as some religions have the capacity for violence and have committed many and modern atrocities in their name, and other religions are simply a "Don't Tread On Me" kind of movement. but there are plenty of hypocrites in every batch. This poorly posed question seems to be written By Anti-Theists for Anti-Theists, meant to make a mockery of our opinions. Meant to make us scramble to validate the utility of Religion. so I think that's why atheism was mentioned Side: no its not
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