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YES...disgusting! NO...harm done
Debate Score:23
Arguments:21
Total Votes:24
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 YES...disgusting! (7)
 
 NO...harm done (11)

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should animated/C.G.I child pornagraphy or beastiality porn be illegal?

most of you probably dont know much about this, and some of you will probably pretend not to know...but a cartoon of a donkey fucking a 12 year old girl could get you thrown in prison in many countries.

more info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_child_pornography

YES...disgusting!

Side Score: 7
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NO...harm done

Side Score: 16
1 point

What the fuck do you think people are going to do in real life once the images start popping into their heads... Their dreams... Then their entire craving mechanism?

People will get addicted to the child porn and the sheer idea of it will become their entire form of gaining pleasure. Real life is just a step away.

Side: YES...disgusting!
1 point

so the same could be said about people addicted to playing violent video games...wont be long before they are all looking to blow a real brain out?

or how about butt licking...just because people love watching an asshole get licked.....does that mean they want to dive in themselves?

your whole argument is based on speculation with no proof of one step leading to another.

heres another thought...what are those that crave it, going to do when they cant find child/animal porn to get off to?

Side: NO...harm done
Hitler(2364) Disputed
1 point

I also would like violent video games banned but that's just my preference.

Side: YES...disgusting!
1 point

Yes.

It's not about the direct effects, but the after-effects are what matters. We are not dealing with rational people, but with mindless rapists who would do anything to satisfy their cravings.

Side: YES...disgusting!
1 point

interesting :)

so what are those "direct effects" & "after effects"

"irrational mindless rapists" dun dun duuuuunn

dont tell me youve never craved a little boys cartoon pecker...your not the slightest bit curious to watch it grow?

Side: NO...harm done
Alex_David(11) Clarified
1 point

Direct effects refer to the direct impact it will have on the minds of the rapists, which might get them into actually enacting what child porn they're watching.

After effects, (or the other effects), refer to the effects it can have on the society at large.

No I haven't. Have you?

I wouldn't mind if there were some form of counseling services available for child porn viewers so that they can control their desires, much like the rest of us, and in this case where social reform is present, animated pornography would be legal. But once again, we are not dealing with rational folk here.

Side: YES...disgusting!

When kids watch this, they will surely develop some sort of sick fantasies.

If people understand that their fantasies can become a reality, then they will most likely work towards achieving that goal. This specific fantasy can be detrimental to ones mental stability.

Side: YES...disgusting!
3 points

The animated character doesn't even actually have an age.

The donkey isn't even real so you aren't watching animal porn...because it's not even an animal.

Side: NO...harm done
1 point

what if she is bending over the kitchen table blowing out 12 candles on her birthday cake...and the donkey is wearing a baseball hat that says' "the real deal"

Side: YES...disgusting!
Intangible(4934) Disputed
2 points

Doesn't mean anything. I could be blowing out 12 candles on a birthday cake, but that doesn't mean that I'm 12.

The donkey obviously isn't real.

Side: NO...harm done

It isn't real so it doesn't matter and no one is getting exploited or harmed by it because the kids and animals aren't real. But obviously it shouldn't be shown to kids.

Side: NO...harm done
1 point

why should kids be denied access?

Side: YES...disgusting!
1 point

Because it's inappropriate.

Side: NO...harm done
Centifolia(1319) Clarified
1 point

Because their concept of reality and good judgement are still developing. It is a bad influence to allow them to watch things that are not acceptable in the society and will surely make permanent damage to their future image

Side: YES...disgusting!

It's not real. It's just animated. No real animals nor children is being harmed. Plus it'll keep less people out of prison.

Side: NO...harm done
1 point

With that logic I should be imprisoned for genocide ... all those people that I have killed in the Counter-Strike (1.6) :D

Side: NO...harm done

Shit won't happen if you do that. Rapists will still rape either way. It's still illegal to rape and sex offenders will continue to be criminals. Nothing will ever happen, other than they'll spend a little more time looking at animated porn than actually raping.

Plus, I don't know much about crime, but I would think that, in a severe case at least, a child molester would have to spend some time on the streets in order to convince tons of kids to have sex with him/her. And that makes sense right? They have to cover themselves up from the police all of the time right?

So now, if any effect (which I still think there'll be NONE including this but), instead of molesting the three kids in his/her neighborhood at the current moment or at the mall they usually kidnap from, they are watching child porn. What's the big difference other than three more kids won't be molested that day?

Side: NO...harm done
1 point

The only argument I could see being made against it is the possibility that you are harboring thoughts of bestiality and or pedophilia. At best I'd say that's cause for psychological treatment, but still no reason to make, watching animated versions of it illegal.

Side: NO...harm done

It may be messed up but at the same time it isn't harming anybody... it's like regular pornography (as in some people find regular pornography messed up).

Side: NO...harm done